Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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Reread my post and try again.
Local plannning is local planning. Is it the local part that is hanging you up. Most people equate local with local. Like I said, I guess you favor centralized government from afar if you do nto like local control. Because that is the other option
I have no idea what the metro plan is. Whatever it is, it is not what we were discussing.

I favor no control, why are you so concerned about controlling others from near or afar?

[TJ Monk]

Frijoles wrote:

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Sounds like you weathered the storm fine.
All day today there were sirens. Not to Gwich either. Overall, the downed trees were not as bad as the March 2010 storm. Frankly, after that, after Irene, and after last years Halloween storm, there are not that many trees left to fall. That said, I saw 5 houses within 10 minute walk of my street that were crunched by trees. I was terrified all last night - we have some tall trees near our house too. But I think the real story are the properties that floated away - dunno how many in here, but likely plenty up the coast.

American Jews will suffer at Gods hand and plan. Storms, earthquakes, floods befall Jews, the killers of Christ. Hitler

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Just finally heard from relatives - Norwalk is an absolute mess on the tree front. Its going to be days...

They told some Jersey shore folks to please stay for at least 10 days. Bummer.

Guess you saw the boats all over the place.

[SeasideSoon]

TJ Monk wrote:

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American Jews will suffer at Gods hand and plan. Storms, earthquakes, floods befall Jews, the killers of Christ. Hitler

All lies and jest
Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest
~Paul Simon

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Obama did not find obl, stop lying.

Who did? W?

Had it gone sideways, no doubt Obama would be blamed. which is fair.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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Shall we translate the tenth amendment into Uzbeki since you seem to be having an issue with the English version?

I think you are retarted
powers not granted to the federal government are reserved for the states, doesn't stop there ding dong, the states can only do what is laid out in the state constitution.

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>LOL! She's quite strident, isn't she? Kind of like a female Chris Matthews.

Chris can be strident for sure.

But he speaks from the heart. I like him.

He knows when the other side is using dog whistle politics - you know - being racist.

Ann is just a flamr thrower for the sake of it.

I think Bill Maher used to do her.

;)

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Chris can be strident for sure.
But he speaks from the heart. I like him.
He knows when the other side is using dog whistle politics - you know - being racist.
Ann is just a flamr thrower for the sake of it.
I think Bill Maher used to do her.
;)

When I had cable, Chris used to give me a headache. Reminds me of Tom Ashbrook from NPR OnPoint - both use 5 sentences to express a single sentence question.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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I think you are retarted
powers not granted to the federal government are reserved for the states, doesn't stop there ding dong, the states can only do what is laid out in the state constitution.

I guess Uzbeki wont help either.

I give up. Eric and I can lead you to the 10th amendment but I guess we cant force you to actually read it.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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I favor no control, why are you so concerned about controlling others from near or afar?

You are such a staunch ideologue that you miss the entire point.

Lets try it like this. Play my game for now.

IF you were going to agree to the idea of government, which type of government would you prefer?

a. government by your neighbors who know you, know what the relevant issues are, and have a mutual stake in the outcome

b. government by people who do not know you, your issues, and have no stake or roots in the community?

There is no option C. So that is off the table.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Who did? W?
Had it gone sideways, no doubt Obama would be blamed. which is fair.

Let me ask you why was that situation room photo op with Hillary with her hand over her mouth staged?

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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I guess Uzbeki wont help either.
I give up. Eric and I can lead you to the 10th amendment but I guess we cant force you to actually read it.

I know what the tenth amendment says and means you retard, again the state of Connecticut is still limited you idiot.

[Frijoles]

Conspiracy theory elves hard at work I see.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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You are such a staunch ideologue that you miss the entire point.
Lets try it like this. Play my game for now.
IF you were going to agree to the idea of government, which type of government would you prefer?
a. government by your neighbors who know you, know what the relevant issues are, and have a mutual stake in the outcome
b. government by people who do not know you, your issues, and have no stake or roots in the community?
There is no option C. So that is off the table.

Neither, don't give me a false choice, both types of governments have their evil elements.
Agenda 21 will still be taking over regardless.

[SeasideSoon]

Typical classy ad courtesy of Obama and Michael Moore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Let me ask you why was that situation room photo op with Hillary with her hand over her mouth staged?

What makes you think it was staged?

Since you think it was staged, maybe you have an idea why.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

TJ Monk wrote:

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American Jews will suffer at Gods hand and plan. Storms, earthquakes, floods befall Jews, the killers of Christ. Hitler

rabbee: what makes you think, all the rest of america and the world.all are not, just as guilty if not more.

[MUQ]

Lecture 5

The Comprehensiveness of the Holy Prophet’s Life- Part-33

A Perfect Model:

Friends! Let me demonstrate another side of the comprehensive nature of the holy Prophet’s life history. There are usually two kinds of educational institutions in the world. Some are meant for specialized professional training such as a medical college, an engineering college, an arts school, a commerce college, an agricultural institute, etc.

All of them produce doctors, engineers, artists, experts in business and agriculture respectively. Similarly, a military college will train only soldiers. And then there are bigger institutions, or universities, which usually include all these various schools and colleges. These universities have a much wider scope of knowledge where students come from different places and choose their particular field of study according to their inclinations and needs.

Thus generals and soldiers, judges and lawyers, business executives and doctors and professionals of all sorts are produced. But the human society cannot be formed by just one kind of education or one kind of professionals. It comes into being and exists with the sum of all these different branches of knowledge.

If this world were to have one kind of knowledge or one kind of vocation, the complex machine of this civilization would immediately come to a standstill. Likewise, if this world is filled with ascetics and recluses, it will not achieve perfection. Now, let us look at the available biographies of different Prophets of Allah from this angle.

According to a saying of Christ (Peace be upon him), a tree is known by its fruit. Similarly, an educational institution is judged by the achievements of its students. If you look at those schools of human society where the teachers are the Prophets of Allah, you will find the number of disciples credited to each Prophet from ten, fifteen, fifty, seventy, a hundred to a maximum of twenty thousand.

His Disciples:

But the Last Prophet of Allah (Peace be upon him) had over a hundred thousand disciples at one and the same time. If you want to learn about the pupils of the earlier Prophets and ask where they were from; who they were; how they were trained; what their habits and morals were like; what their spiritual and other achievements were in life; what effect their education and training left on their societies, you cannot find any answer to these questions.

But the disciples of Prophet Muhammad have a well documented history. You can find out the name, personal details, education and spiritual training and its influence on others etc. of any of the holy Prophet’s pupils, securely recorded in the history of Islam.

(Contd.)

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Neither, don't give me a false choice, both types of governments have their evil elements.
Agenda 21 will still be taking over regardless.

Can't you read? There is no option C for this practical exercise. Lets try again.

Note the word "IF"

IF you were going to agree to the idea of government, which type of government would you prefer?

a. government by your neighbors who know you, know what the relevant issues are, and have a mutual stake in the outcome

b. government by people who do not know you, your issues, and have no stake or roots in the community?

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Neither, don't give me a false choice, both types of governments have their evil elements.
Agenda 21 will still be taking over regardless.

And I never brought up Agenda21, whateevr that means to you. So that is not part of our discussion either. Please stay on track.