Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[TJ Monk]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>No, did you forget whose whose surge it was?
Bush focused less on Afghanistan after the Taliban had mostly left for Pakistan. Then in 2009, Obama sent 30,000 more troops..I guess his intelligence sources weren't any better then than today.
All the while, he's surging up in Afghanistan, and OBL was holed up in Pakistan. So it took 30,000 more troops in Afghan to figure out that OBL wasn't even there. Amazing..can't make this stuff up.

LOVE it and LIVE it...the surge cost us 1 trillion dollars.......love it and pay you fools.....

[Eric]

Voluntarist wrote:

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The dss was created through statute implementing the federal welfare.
There are many states with general welfare clauses, CT is ingrained in statute.

1. And, therefore, I was correct when I said that the CT Constitution has no general welfare clause. And, I was correct when I said that Frijoles was not addressing the federal constitution.

2. There is no relationship between the federal general welfare clause and the department of social services from CT. The relationship, at best, is the 10th amendment. Then it is up to the state of CT to enact social services if it wishes. Since there is no limitation in the CT Constitution against just about anything, the CT General Assembly can do just about anything it wishes and not be unconstitutional according to the state constitution. As I said, I was surprised by the brevity and lack of specificity of the CT Constitution.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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ARRA was used for many other projects other than roads and bridges. At least here in the northeast. Down where you are I think you guys were not as creative or welcoming. Again, you have my sympathies.

Aw, shucks. I suspect we could be less skilled in tracking down the golden carrot. It also could be viewed as something to be proud of. Robert G. Byrd wasn't known for his reticence in getting other people's money :)

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Like I said, birtherism.
Lets face it - you hate Obama. Now that we got that over with....

Geez I hate it when someone accuses me of hating someone. I think he's a amateur playing at being president, but I certainly don't hate him. That's not like you - it must be the barometric pressure.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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and where in the CT Constitution is snow removal, leaf pickup, recycling and garbage, fire safety, or ems?
Do have a shrine to your Constitution? Do you leave fruit?

Does your state provide snow removal, leaf pickup, recycling and the rest? Wow, you're getting ripped because it's probably costing way more than if the local municipality did it, or even better, competing companies which we have here for some of those services. Road service and Police, Fire, and EMS is by county.

[SeasideSoon]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Great!
So I don't have to pay for your "war on terror "?

The only terrorist I've seen around here is you. And MUQ of course.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Dont forget that CT is home to 2 of the most spectacular bridge failures in American history - both over the I95 corridor
I95 Mianus Bridge in the 80s - of course you remember that - you were probably living 1 mile away
Bridgeport I95 Bridge - 2002 or 2003 - though that failure was hastened by a burning truck if I recollect

From what I've heard about that area, probably poor quality concrete - all those bodies tend to weaken the mix. What's the name of that swamp around Hamden?

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

<quoted text> I am watching trees going horizontal. I know about stir crazy - day care closed until further notice. According to "suggested" evac (not the mandatory evac), you should be gone by now, as well as the entire downtown.

Forget the barometric pressure comment - lack of daycare is much worse. Sorry.

[SeasideSoon]

TJ Monk wrote:

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TOOL....Rep will increase taxes on middle and low people. Giving tax relief to the 2% rich. Your an idiot to vote Republican. Businesses should be taxed 30% TOOL. They have loads of flexability, not like middle folks. Dumb TOOL PLUS...Obama will not start stupid wars on credit. AS--SSS--Hole

But he has no compunction about continuing a war on the credit card. You really are on the koolaid - don't drink and drive.

[TJ Monk]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>But he has no compunction about continuing a war on the credit card. You really are on the koolaid - don't drink and drive.

Compunction isnot a word.....so we have idiot TOOLS voting do we?????? Stay home from the polls....you are too ignorant.....FK TOOL

[Voluntarist]

Eric wrote:

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1. And, therefore, I was correct when I said that the CT Constitution has no general welfare clause. And, I was correct when I said that Frijoles was not addressing the federal constitution.
2. There is no relationship between the federal general welfare clause and the department of social services from CT. The relationship, at best, is the 10th amendment. Then it is up to the state of CT to enact social services if it wishes. Since there is no limitation in the CT Constitution against just about anything, the CT General Assembly can do just about anything it wishes and not be unconstitutional according to the state constitution. As I said, I was surprised by the brevity and lack of specificity of the CT Constitution.

There is no general welfare clause in the Connecticut constitution but it is in statute, by what power is welfare passed to the states if not the general welfare clause?
I urge you to go back to the beginning of the discussion to know the crux of the discussion.

The General Welfare Clause is quite broad, and permits
Congress to create any tax and spend monies on any program
which they believe will serve the general welfare of the citizens of
the various states. There is one crucial limitation. While Congress
may tax and spend for the general welfare, they may not merely
pass laws aimed to serve the general welfare.
EXAMPLE: After years of study Congress finally concludes that
cigarette smoke really does harm smokers and those around
them. In an effort to serve the general welfare, Congress passes a
law banning the manufacture, sale, possession or use of
cigarettes in any state. The law would exceed Congressional
authority under the General Welfare Clause and would be struck
down as an unconstitutional exercise of power.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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My brother was on I95 in G'ch that night. I was already down here but remember it well. Much traffic in Route 1 (detour) thru town for a long time.
I think I remember the burning truck too. We had of them down here too - did a lot of damage.

There was a BMW traveling at a high rate of speed that almost made it across the hole, almost doesn't count though.

[Eric]

Voluntarist wrote:

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There is no general welfare clause in the Connecticut constitution but it is in statute, by what power is welfare passed to the states if not the general welfare clause?

It is passed from the 10th Amendment.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The general welfare clause pertains to powers granted to Congress, not the states. Where has "Congress" delegated such powers to the states? It comes from the 10th Amendment instead.

[Eric]

And, you as a person advocating limited government should be happy that it comes from the 10th Amendment.

[Voluntarist]

Eric wrote:

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It is passed from the 10th Amendment.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The general welfare clause pertains to powers granted to Congress, not the states. Where has "Congress" delegated such powers to the states? It comes from the 10th Amendment instead.

It is federal funding, not state funding.

[TJ Monk]

Voluntarist wrote:

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It is federal funding, not state funding.

You stools......Jews are really Palastinians. No difference....the geneological records were destroyed in 70 CE. Dumb ass TOOLS...you should know....

[SeasideSoon]

TJ Monk wrote:

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You stools......Jews are really Palastinians. No difference....the geneological records were destroyed in 70 CE. Dumb ass TOOLS...you should know....

Where did ya steal that car?

[TJ Monk]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Where did ya steal that car?

From your back yard dumb TOOL...I am always right....

[MUQ]

Lecture 5

The Comprehensiveness of the Holy Prophet’s Life- Part-32

Different Aspects of His Life:

If you look at the different aspects of the holy Prophet’s life, this quality of comprehensiveness will stand out quite clearly. Watch Prophet Muhammad’s migration from Makkah to Madinah, Does it not remind you of the flight of Moses from Egypt to Madayin? There is a remarkable similarity between Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) meditating on Mount Hira and receiving the first revelation from Allah and Moses observing Allah’s Glory on Mount Sinai.

The only difference is that Prophet Muhammad’s meditation was directed inwards, and Moses was looking with open eyes. Imagine Christ’s preaching from Mount of Olives and Prophet Muhammad’s call to the Qureish of Makkah from Mount Safa.

How similar is the Prophet leading his forces against the Arab non-believers to Moses fighting against the infidels of Palestine! When the holy Prophet prayed to Allah for the destruction of seven evil mongers of the tribal leaders of Makkah, he was like Moses who prayed to Allah to destroy the Pharaoh and his followers who had rejected the Truth even though they had seen the clear signs of his prophethood from Allah.

When the holy Prophet prayed to Allah to forgive his blood-thirsty enemies in the battle of Uhad, he was at that time like Christ showing mercy and kindness. If you look at Prophet Muhammad handing out judgment in the court of his holy Mosque in Madinah, or in his fight against nonbelievers, it would seem as if you were looking at Moses. But if you look at him in his humble residence or in a cave or in the loneliness of dark nights, deep in meditation and prayer to his Lord, you might see the very picture of Christ.

If you listen to the supplications constantly on his tongue celebrating the Glory of Allah, you will be reminded of David singing the praise of Allah. If you look at him leading a victorious army into Makkah, you may imagine the power and glory of Solomon.

Imagine his three years confinement outside Makkah, where it was hard to get any food, you can see the picture of Prophet Joseph in the Egyptian prison….

(Contd.)

[Frijoles]

Eric wrote:

And, you as a person advocating limited government should be happy that it comes from the 10th Amendment.

You know, we run into that stupidity almost daily here. Tea Party activists who believe that modern urban planning is a tool of a One World UN conspiracy. Urban planning is all about tailoring government planning initiatives to local control. The alternative is a top down approach.