Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
TJ Monk wrote:
MESSIANIC Jews are not persecuted in Israel....they have no right to the land. Palastinians were there longer than any Jew....2000 years is a long time to be away from home.....GO AWAY. Palastinians own Israel.
First off, its Palestinians, not Palastinians.

Secondly, you ignore the Palestinian Jews that have always been there. As well as the Jews that were expelled from Arab lands post 1948.

Thirdly, you are far from home yourself. What are you doing in Canada? What did you do with the native-Americans who used to live in what you now claim as your neighborhood? What right do you have to be living on other people's land?
MUQ

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Oct 25, 2012
 
The media projects the Multi time magnified images of the Extremists like OBL, the person whom no one even knew became the Top Most world terrorists overnight because of Media.

And he is not alone, they make stars of the people with little following and into super personalities.

The media want to have their roles to play to malign Islam and Muslims and they are looking for such people.

I have seen the same thing in India where every now and then Media come out with Banner Headlines as such and such Super Terrorist has been captured and arrested..and after three or four days no one even remembers their name, what happened to them and how many of them were actually convicted.

The Police and Security Services only want Blank checks to take into custody and put behind bars as many number os persons and for how many days, they want to kill and / or keep behind bars any number of people for indefinite period,

The Prime example is GITMO, where hardly anyone is charged and convicted of any crime, but the whole World Media agrees that such Terrorists must remain confined.

They have Convicted them as Terrorists without any due process of law.

And this is going on for many years right in front of our very eyes and no one feels any thing about it.

It is media which "creates" these Super Terrorists in most of the cases.
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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The people of MA voted for it and by all reports (and polls) are very happy with it.
Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.

Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.

What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Oct 25, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.
Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.
What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.
rabbee: i would prefer, we all be in GanEden. where healcare and peace is all, taken care of by command of G-D. and where pestilence, plague, and famine are not sent, so the devil can sell you his healthcare and insurance progroms.

but all long as you all, do not really believe in G-D here in TheTorah. you are going to have to be, codependant on the devils unfair and unjust systems.
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i would prefer, we all be in GanEden. where healcare and peace is all, taken care of by command of G-D. and where pestilence, plague, and famine are not sent, so the devil can sell you his healthcare and insurance progroms.
but all long as you all, do not really believe in G-D here in TheTorah. you are going to have to be, codependant on the devils unfair and unjust systems.
Torah also says you should look out for your neighbor

at least my torah does
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
MUQ wrote:
The media projects the Multi time magnified images of the Extremists like OBL, the person whom no one even knew became the Top Most world terrorists overnight because of Media.
And he is not alone, they make stars of the people with little following and into super personalities.
The media want to have their roles to play to malign Islam and Muslims and they are looking for such people.
I have seen the same thing in India where every now and then Media come out with Banner Headlines as such and such Super Terrorist has been captured and arrested..and after three or four days no one even remembers their name, what happened to them and how many of them were actually convicted.
The Police and Security Services only want Blank checks to take into custody and put behind bars as many number os persons and for how many days, they want to kill and / or keep behind bars any number of people for indefinite period,
The Prime example is GITMO, where hardly anyone is charged and convicted of any crime, but the whole World Media agrees that such Terrorists must remain confined.
They have Convicted them as Terrorists without any due process of law.
And this is going on for many years right in front of our very eyes and no one feels any thing about it.
It is media which "creates" these Super Terrorists in most of the cases.
Come now. Obama sponsored the attack on the WTC, among other things, killing 5000 people. If that does instantly catapult him into the media, I am not sure what else would.

Maybe killing 10,000 people?
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
Correction
If that does NOT instantly catapult him into the media, I am not sure what else would
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION

Osama not Obama

Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me

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Oct 25, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION
Osama not Obama
Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me
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You're in good company. Schieffer made the same mistake during the third debate.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Frijoles wrote:
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Torah also says you should look out for your neighbor
at least my torah does
rabbee: without the truth, here in TheTorah. there is no way, anyone can truly do that.

and yes i do, truly look out for you all. even if you, truly refuse to accept it. just telling you the truth, G-D came and gave to me. is looking out for you, more than this whole lying world never truly has.

i cannot love any, of my about seven billion grandchildren. if i lie to them, the way they are accustomed to with each other. without truth, here in TheTorah. there is no love, with all the mentally ill not here in TheTorah. lies are nothing but hate, for each other against G-D.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Frijoles wrote:
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Come now. Obama sponsored the attack on the WTC, among other things, killing 5000 people. If that does instantly catapult him into the media, I am not sure what else would.
Maybe killing 10,000 people?
rabbee: well so did everyone else, not true to G-D here in TheTorah help orchastrate this. why else would G-D of commanded hasatan, or baal hamolech to have this done? i blame everyone on earth, not true to G-D for all pestilence, plague and famine.

lies only give support, for all murderers and all mayhem. even your school systems, not true to G-D here in TheTorah are all to blame. how horrible! is teaching, your children how to lie. as your lying government, would have them do against G-D.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Oct 25, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION
Osama not Obama
Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me
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rabbee: why when according to G-D, both are just as guilty. even before obama, was president. who both say and do, everything wicked and evil, in TheEyes of G-D.

for G-D is responsible for what, all the righteous and non-righteous actually do. but is not in charge, of what we think or say about it.

and G-D is going to finish, giving TheWhole Torah. whether you mentally all, choose to be here in IT or not. and then G-D is going to give, TheWhole Story of Creation again, beguinning with Parashas Noach. because this whole world and your grandmother, has again failed to believe in G-D.
Frijoles

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Oct 25, 2012
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
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You're in good company. Schieffer made the same mistake during the third debate.
I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said Barak Obama 2012. It was written entirely in Hebrew. Talk about a select audience.

On the same note, there was an article in Slate today about how the GOP superpacs have speant millions of dollars in Florida on billboards and other things vilifying Obama reagrding Jewish issues. The article noted that by all polling, the media blitz was a huge waste of money as it has not moved the vote any significant amount. Last poll had Florida Jews 75% Obama 25% Romney I think.

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Frijoles wrote:
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I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said Barak Obama 2012. It was written entirely in Hebrew. Talk about a select audience.
On the same note, there was an article in Slate today about how the GOP superpacs have speant millions of dollars in Florida on billboards and other things vilifying Obama reagrding Jewish issues. The article noted that by all polling, the media blitz was a huge waste of money as it has not moved the vote any significant amount. Last poll had Florida Jews 75% Obama 25% Romney I think.
Those types of adds only work on the uneducated/uninformed. Hardly the demographics they were going for.
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Those types of adds only work on the uneducated/uninformed. Hardly the demographics they were going for.
On the other hand, our "friend" Sheldon Adelson is creating mischief in Israel as well.

A while back he funded a free daily newspaper - Hayom - "the day" I havent seen it but I imagine it has to be the equivalent of Fox -and it may be putting the Jerusalem Post out of business. sad.
Frijoles

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#42289
Oct 25, 2012
 
oops - it was Maariv, not the Jerusalem Post that is in trouble

http://seattletimes.com/text/2019256212.html

Iconic Israeli newspaper on the verge of collapse

......"We can't compete with a machine that prints money and hands out papers for free," said Avi Ashkenazi, Maariv's veteran crime correspondent. "We are the first ones to enter the slaughterhouse but we likely won't be the last. It's only a matter of time."

Israel Hayom's success has raised questions about whether a wealthy foreigner has bought power and influence on behalf of the prime minister. Adelson also has contributed $30 million to super PACs supporting Republican candidates and has attended major fundraising events for U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney.....
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Oct 25, 2012
 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/1...

Colin Powell announced this morning he will again vote for President Obama, handing the president a rare endorsement from across the aisle and taking a few shots at Mitt Romney in the process.

"Iím not quite sure which Governor Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy," the former secretary of state said on CBS's This Morning. "I donít sense heís thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have. He gets advice from his campaign staff that he then has to modify as he goes along."
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Frijoles wrote:
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Dont forget, it was designed and adopted before universal health care became a partisan issue nationwide.
Imagine if we could of adopted something similar to that nationwide a few years ago, before the republicans decided they didnt like Obama, and as a result declared health care a partisan issue. My guess is that they would of passed something VERY similar to ObamaCare.
What changed? The political atmosphere - not the content of the health plan.
The other side was vehemently against Hillary-Care too.

Remember the scary commercials?

That wasn't even for universal healthcare per se.

I don't acually recall the details.

I'm sure Hillary has blocked it out too.
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#42292
Oct 25, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
LOL DOUBLE CORRECTION
Osama not Obama
Seaside much be laughing her tushie off at me
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Bob Shiefer made the same mistake the other night.

I think it was him

Seems to happen a lot.
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Cult of Reason wrote:
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You're in good company. Schieffer made the same mistake during the third debate.
I should have read ahead.

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