Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[MAAT]

thought-pattern of thinking...

Sleep is so important!
Reminds me also of the expression: a thinking mistake. is such a thing possible?
Back to the former one.
What if people have no more flexibility. Then we are bound to find their thinking, forced to follow patterns that are consisting of ingrained thoughts.

[Frijoles]

MAAT wrote:

Yesterday my sleep got interrupted by an attempt at burglary, so i was awake to find that sexist pigs are not dead and gone by a long shot.
Hearing Romney say: "We put all the women we got in the binder."
He could have certainly phrased that differently!
So it is symptomatic for an ingrown mentality and thought-pattern of thinking and talking desparaging about women.
New lock plus a gate, so now i can sleep uninterrupted again.

That comment went viral.

There are already some great cartoons on this.

[MAAT]

Cognitive viruses

1. exaggerating
2. overgeneralizing
3. oversimplifying
4. extremism
5. overcertainty
6. negative guessing
7. self-defeating conclusions
8. false implications
9. choosing the worst possible explanation
10. false helplessness
11. false hopelessness
12. shoulds and musts
13. misplacing responsibility
14. focusing too narrowly
15. harmful judging
16. asking unanswerable questions
17. bias for confirmation
18. using emotions as evidence
19. dismissing facts
20. ignoring alternatives
21. assuming
22. negative bias

[MAAT]

Frijoles wrote:

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That comment went viral.
There are already some great cartoons on this.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2012/10/17/...
Indeed. I made a typo first: cartons :)
I like the one of Romney with the inset look of the young lady.

The more i see, the harder it is to believe that republicans choose this person as their best options.
Something dreadfull is going on over the pond!

I'm not going to wonder about it -the poll here shows Obama 58% well ahead- after a busy day arranging, i'm going to do some relaxing reading. So take care folks and check your locks!

[MAAT]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-...
Some of the comments really hit home.

Can Romney manage even one thought that does not need reinterpretation and brushing up by Ryan.

The next dabate is all about foreign affairs.
I wonder whether a gagging order will be imposed on Romney. He's capable of blurting out state-secrets.

[former res]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Again, cognitive dissonance. How long before people realize the church is full of sh...er, malarky, and start packing.

The ones I know have no intention of leaving the church.

"I won't let them run me out," is more or less the refrain I hear.

It's like a loved one who may be a pain in the axs but you still love him/her.

[Jim]

I just wanted to say that it is so wonderful that Messianic Judiasm is literally being found all over the world, and people are realizing that a Jewish believer in Yeshua is a “completed” Jew. Although there is persecution in Israel and other parts of the world, God is opening the eyes of people in miraculous ways. Check out some great new Messianic artists and songs at http://www.newfaithfavorites.com .

[Frijoles]

Another reason to avoid Glen Allen, VA.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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If he lied about the little things, no surprise he's now lyng about the big things.

ROMNEY: Thank you. An important topic, and one which I learned a great deal about, particularly as I was serving as governor of my state, because I had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men.

And I -- and I went to my staff, and I said, "How come all the people for these jobs are -- are all men." They said, "Well, these are the people that have the qualifications." And I said, "Well, gosh, can't we -- can't we find some -- some women that are also qualified?"

And -- and so we -- we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet.

I went to a number of women's groups and said, "Can you help us find folks," and they brought us whole binders full of women...."


http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolit...

"Not a true story.

What actually happened was that in 2002 -- prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration -- a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.

I have written about this before, in various contexts; tonight I've checked with several people directly involved in the MassGAP effort who confirm that this history as I've just presented it is correct -- and that Romney's claim tonight, that he asked for such a study, is false...:"

[Cult of Reason]

former res wrote:

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The ones I know have no intention of leaving the church.
"I won't let them run me out," is more or less the refrain I hear.
It's like a loved one who may be a pain in the axs but you still love him/her.

The empty pews and the latest polls tell a different story. I predict that trend will continue, with one serious unknown, which is the reaction of the older more loyal generation. I foresee the indoctrination of children by this older generation getting tougher as they get more desperate. I'm noticing the fanatics getting more fanatical (just like the GOPs). Only time will tell.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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The empty pews and the latest polls tell a different story. I predict that trend will continue, with one serious unknown, which is the reaction of the older more loyal generation. I foresee the indoctrination of children by this older generation getting tougher as they get more desperate. I'm noticing the fanatics getting more fanatical (just like the GOPs). Only time will tell.

It probably also doesnt help their cause that their church is divesting their property as fast as they can to pay their legal bills.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

former res wrote:

Attitudes of Christians towards abortion
Catholics
A majority of U.S. and Australian Catholics hold different views that differ from the official doctrine of their church. In a 1995 survey, 64% of U.S. Catholics say they disapprove of the statement that "abortion is morally wrong in every case".[39] A 2008 survey found that 65% of American Catholics identified themselves as "pro-choice" but also found that 76% of these "pro-choice" Catholics believed that abortion should be significantly restricted.[67] Some 58% of American Catholic women feel that they do not have to follow the abortion teaching of their bishop.[68] Only 22% of U.S. Catholics agree with their church that abortion should be illegal in all cases.[69]
A 1996 survey found that 72% of Australian Catholics say that the decision to have an abortion "should be left to individual women and their doctors."[39]
Protestants
According to a 2002 survey conducted by the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research, fundamentalist Christians are more likely to be pro-life than all other respondents, including mainline Protestants. Twenty-eight percent of fundamentalists thought abortion should be illegal even if there was a strong chance of birth defects whereas only nine percent of mainline Protestants held the same opinion. Seventy percent of fundamentalists felt that the desire not to have more children was not a sufficient justification for having an abortion while mainline Protestants were almost evenly divided on this question. However, an overwhelming majority of both fundamentalists and mainline Protestants indicated that they would support abortion in cases where the pregnancy endangered the mother's life.[70]
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/greenwich-ct/...

rabbee: well who cares what any of the subtle beasts and their followers, have to say about abortion? when the top and bottom line, is what does G-D say about it. you have to be an abortion against G-D, to even support any abortion of the beasts.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

MAAT wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10 /17/paul-ryan-defends-binders- of-women/
Some of the comments really hit home.
Can Romney manage even one thought that does not need reinterpretation and brushing up by Ryan.
The next dabate is all about foreign affairs.
I wonder whether a gagging order will be imposed on Romney. He's capable of blurting out state-secrets.

rabbee: does it really matter, which antiG-D beast, is going to screw you their own way? the best method, is to not let the lemmings gather momentum for another four years.

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

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It probably also doesnt help their cause that their church is divesting their property as fast as they can to pay their legal bills.

True, but I'm referring to all denominations, not just Catholics.

[SeasideSoon]

MAAT wrote:

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http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2012/10/17/...
Indeed. I made a typo first: cartons :)
I like the one of Romney with the inset look of the young lady.
The more i see, the harder it is to believe that republicans choose this person as their best options.
Something dreadfull is going on over the pond!
I'm not going to wonder about it -the poll here shows Obama 58% well ahead- after a busy day arranging, i'm going to do some relaxing reading. So take care folks and check your locks!

Better Sandra Fluke, the poster girl for free sex.

[SeasideSoon]

"The economic condition of the country was better the year before last year, and last year it was better than it is at present. It's obvious that we would not be able to survive another year of the same progression..." ~Atlas Shrugged

Perhaps "progressivism" a more suitable term.

[MUQ]

Mohammad , the Ideal Prophet By SYED SULAIMAN NADWI (Abridged) Part- 24A

Lecture 4. The Perfectness of the Holy Prophet’s Life

&#61472;Available Details of his life:(Contd.)

The holy Prophet’s morals and manners are described in complete detail, under
these subtitles:

a general description of his noble character;

his steadfastness;

his polite manners;

his fair dealing;

his love of justice;

his kindness and generosity;

his self-sacrifice;

his dislike of beggary;

his refusal to accept any charity for his personal use;

his acceptance of gifts;

his avoidance of asking others for help;

his hatred of violence;

his dislike of fault finding with others and self-praise;

the simplicity and spontaneity of his manners;

his avoidance of the display of riches and showing off;

his modesty;

his love of equality;

his dislike of undue praise and flattery;

his preference to do his work with his own hands;

his fortitude;

his courage;

his truthfulness;

keeping his promises;

his self-denial and contentment;

his treatment of the infidels and non-believers;

his treatment of the Jews and Christians;

his kindness to the poor;

his forgiveness for his deadly enemies and his praying for them;

his love of children;

his treatment of women;

his love of animals;

his kindness and courtesy for everyone;

the tenderness of his heart;

his cheerful temperament;

his affection and love for his own children and his wives.

Another standard biography, Zad-ul-Ma ‘ad, by Hafiz Ibn Qayyim, deals in great length, with the personal aspect of his personality.

I have presented before you only a partial list of the subheadings of certain details about the holy Prophet’s life.

You can judge for yourself and form some idea of how the more significant and basic features of the holy prophet’s life must have been collected and recorded, and in what detail, considering these smaller details which have so meticulously been recorded and preserved. In short, all aspects of his life have been observed and re corded.

[MAAT]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Better Sandra Fluke, the poster girl for free sex.

I had to look the person up. Since not even in the sixties did any women endorse free sex. never in history in fact. It is merely the wet dream of men.

quote:
The Rush Limbaugh–Sandra Fluke controversy (pronunciation:/fl&#650;k/ ) began on February 29, 2012, when American conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh's remarks about contraceptive mandates included statements concerning Georgetown University Law Center student Sandra Fluke as a "slut" and "prostitute". Limbaugh was commenting on Fluke's speech the previous week to House Democrats in support of mandating insurance coverage for contraceptives. Despite disapproval from major political figures, Limbaugh made numerous similar statements over the next two days, leading to the loss of several national sponsors and Limbaugh's apology on his show for some of his comments. Fluke rejected the apology as dubious and inadequate.[1][2][3][4][5]

end quote.

[MUQ]

COR wrote:

1. Creator Granted Rights: Since you have no objective proof for a Creator nor his alleged will, your base assumption is unverifiable and nullifies the rest of your assertions.

2. Men Paying for Women: This is a circular argument. According to you, women aren't supposed to work outside of the home, therefore, there is no choice but for men to pay for them. And by men paying for them, this is somehow proof that they should not work? You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you MUQ?

3. Degradation of Family Structure: You've made this assertion before, but when asked for objective data to back up this claim, you failed. Anecdotal tales are not objective evidence. Would you like to try again?

Ans.

01. In fact we are the ONLY one with proof!! It is you people who are taking only based on assumption. We have statements right from the Creator Himself what could be a Greater proof?

And if any one who thinks that our Book is not from God, there is an open challenge for all humans to bring a book like it, ten chapter like tr or even one chapter like it.

02. Men paying for women: It is not a circular argument. It is reality. I ask you to bring statistics from your own society how much money women spent on men and how much money men spent on women.

Forget about our backward society, just talk about modern civilized societies like yours!!

3. Break up of family structure:

Again you should check your own statistics before writing anything.

The number of Children born out of wedlock is more than the numbers that are born in wedlock….does it shows your family structure is getting strengthened?

The number of single parents is on the rise year by year….is that sign the family bond is increasing?

The cases of suicides, mental illness, rapes, kidnappings, incest, domestic violence, child abuse, are all on the rise, does it shows that family structure is increasing.

And the "death knell" is granting these Sodomites and Lesbians the status of "Normal marriage".

Yes now you can say that your "family ties" are getting stronger and stronger. Who has got power to break a Sodomite and Lesbian relationship?

And the best part is that you people think that you are on the road to progress and Freedom!!

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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True, but I'm referring to all denominations, not just Catholics.

rabbee: it is not the denominators, that worries me more. than the extreme surplus, of numerators greater than TheOne.

it is hard to believe that about, 7billion acting g-ds could be all that wrong. with every one assuming, they are the g-d of their own not here in TheTorah story.