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#41989 Oct 16, 2012
Romney Is Attacked by His Fathers Longtime Aide
A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in erratic and startling ways and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.
Walter De Vries, who worked for the senior Mr. Romney throughout the 1960s, wrote that Mitt Romneys bid for the White House was a far cry from the kind of campaign and conduct, as a public servant, I saw during the seven years I worked in George Romneys campaigns and served him as governor.
While it seems that Mitt would say and do anything to close a deal or an election, he wrote,George Romneys strength as a politician and public officeholder was his ability and determination to develop and hold consistent policy positions over his life.
Since: Aug 11
#41990 Oct 16, 2012
Most are. And what's important to remember is that the religion they believe in (without evidence) IS anti-gay, thus providing the adherents with an excuse to hate or discriminate.
I would say the Abrahamic religions (especially Christianity and Islam)goes well beyond not embracing it. They outright abhor it.
You are referring to modernized and fully acclimated moderate Muslims living in the Western world. I would hazard to guess that these are not representative of the Muslim viewpoint worldwide, particularly in the more theocratic countries.
At some point, even the moderates have to deal with the cognitive dissonance of their religion telling them one thing, and them pragmatically thinking differently about it. Either their religion is wrong, or they are.
Dammam, Saudi Arabia
#41992 Oct 16, 2012
Not men make laws for women, it is the Creator of both men and women who decides about their mutual rights.
He says "women have right on men, same as men have over them, but men have one level of superiority."
and this is not arbitrary because He says "....Because God has given them more power and they spend their money on them (i.e. women)..."
Any one can see in the world, who spends money on whom. It is mostly men who spend their money on women. It is still a very small percentage of women who spend their money on men.
So the basic mistake of you people is to create "perfect equality" where there is none.
And if you do any thing against nature, you will have to suffer the consequences.
To have men and women working in different areas is not their degradation.... it is part of the same "complimentary role" by which men and women make a unit, which is called family.
You people want to break this unit and have men and women as equal and always competing against each other, with the result that family unit is broken.
already family structure is crumbling in western society and with time it would become further weakened.
The people who have eyes can see it....those who are blind or do not look at wall, they continue to follow what media tells them blindly.
Qatif, Saudi Arabia
#41993 Oct 16, 2012
Mohammad , the Ideal Prophet By SYED SULAIMAN NADWI (Abridged) Part- 24
Lecture 4. The Perfectness of the Holy Prophets Life
Great men within their inner circle
My dear friends! Even the greatest of heroes is an ordinary person inside his house. According to Voltaires well-known saying No man is a hero to his valet.
In Bosworth Smiths opinion this does not apply, at least, to the Prophet of Islam
(Peace be upon him). Gibbon says that no Prophet has put his followers to a greater test than Muhammad (Peace be upon him) because he first presented himself to those as a Prophet who knew him intimately well as an ordinary human being.
He claimed to be a Prophet first to his wife, his personal servant, his cousin and his closest friend and none of them showed any hesitation at all in accepting the truth of his claim. No one knows the inherent weaknesses of a person better than his own wife.
But is it not a fact that the first person to believe and declare her faith in the Prophet was his wife? She had shared fifteen years of married life with him before his Prophethood. She knew intimately all sides of his personality. When he claimed to be a prophet of Allah (Peace be upon him), she was the first to accept the veracity of that claim.
Even the most pious and the purest of persons cannot allow his wife to tell others about his private life. The holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) had nine wives and
every one of them had his permission to convey to others in public whatever they
observed about him in private. They were all allowed to say in daylight what they
had seen in him in the darkness of the night because he had complete confidence in the purity of his heart and the sincerity of his actions. He did nothing that had to be hidden from the public eye. Can any one match the purity of this conduct and such moral courage?
Available Details of his life:
In my own biography of the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) I have arranged
the personal details of his life under the following subtitles:
the Seal of Prophethood;
his manner of walking,
speaking and smiling;
helmet and armour;
his food and manner of eating;
his liking for decent clothes;
his favorite colours;
his dislike of certain colours;
his use of perfume;
his good taste;
his love of riding.
Under his daily routine the subtitles include everything he usually did from
morning to sunset:
his manner of sleeping;
his long hours of worship during the night;
his manner of praying;
his usual sermons;
his routine during travelling and during a holy war;
his visits to the sick and the suffering to offer his sympathy and
his visiting with others and his general routine.
Under the title of his assembly with his companions these subtitles are included:
his public meetings for the purpose of preaching Allahs Message;
the etiquette observed in those meetings;
the usual time of those meetings;
separate meetings for women;
his way of preaching;
the relaxed atmosphere of those meetings;
the beneficial effect of his company;
his manner of speech;
the nature and wholesome influence of his talks.
The detailed account of his manner of worship is given under the sub-headings:
his supplication and performance of prayers;
his pilgrimage to Makkah (the Hajj);
his remembrance of Allah at all times;
his remembrance of Allah during fighting;
his fear of Allah;
his grief and weeping;
his love of Allah
his faith in Allah;
his fortitude and his thanks-giving
#41994 Oct 17, 2012
I know you must be JOKING to even suggest that your basis for your belief in an alleged superiority of men over woman is that MEN SPEND MORE MONEY ON WOMEN than vice versa.
Would you like another try?
#41995 Oct 17, 2012
rabbee: trying to make more than the less than ideal prophet, is a sin no matter what is your case against G-D.
#41996 Oct 17, 2012
Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya
"....No ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done..."
Are certain Republicans that dumb that they think people separate the term "terrorism" from "acts of terror"?
#41997 Oct 17, 2012
Christianity is a religion of choice and NOT of force. If it were not for Jesus "healing power" I, and some of my family would not be alive today to read these comments. Thank You Jesus.
#41998 Oct 17, 2012
Congratulations Mitt Romney, you are a man of 'true worth.'God will be with you and your people when you become president. Mitt has the ability to get your country out of it's mess. South Africa is going 'deeper into a mess' under black rule. We need a ruler like Mitt to help us. The Black A.N.C. Government spent R4.67 billion on catering, entertainment for its black people in 2011, yet they continue to threaten white South African farmers that they will take their farm land without compensation; a hard working people who are producing food for S.A's population. South Africa "also" needs change. Prosperity does not follow everyone.
#41999 Oct 17, 2012
Then for crissake, take him, he's yours!!!
Have a GREAT day!
#42000 Oct 17, 2012
Dont bother with trying to play the "persecuted" card.
You know, as well as I, that the chatter on this forum hasnt bothered to venture into its namesake topic for a long, long, long time.
#42001 Oct 17, 2012
If he lied about the little things, no surprise he's now lyng about the big things.
Fox News - 2007:
"I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life," he said this week in Keene, N.H., to a man sporting a National Rifle Association cap.
Yet the former Massachusetts governor's hunting experience is limited to two trips at the bookends of his 60 years: as a 15-year-old, when he hunted rabbits with his cousins on a ranch in Idaho, and last year, when he shot quail on a fenced game preserve in Georgia.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264026,00...
Since: Aug 11
#42002 Oct 17, 2012
1. Creator Granted Rights: Since you have no objective proof for a Creator nor his alleged will, your base assumption is unverifiable and nullifies the rest of your assertions.
2. Men Paying for Women: This is a circular argument. According to you, women aren't supposed to work outside of the home, therefore, there is no choice but for for men to pay for them. And by men paying for them, this is somehow proof that they should not work? You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you MUQ?
3. Degradation of Family Structure: You've made this assertion before, but when asked for objective data to back up this claim, you failed. Anecdotal tales are not objective evidence. Would you like to try again?
#42003 Oct 17, 2012
Have you ever "hunted" quail or seen them in the wild? I am not sure that this should even be considered really hunting.
Since: Aug 11
#42004 Oct 17, 2012
Harry Whittington my disagree with you.
#42005 Oct 17, 2012
Not my experience. Islam, Chrianity, Judaism - all officially anti-gay. Said so. No one needs an excuse to hate. Likewise not everyone espouses every aspect of their faith. For exampele, most Christians I know are pro-choice. But then again, i don't live in the Bible belt.
My point all along being - don't judge a whole group by the more extreme elements.
That's how we had such a ignorant backlash the proposed Mosque near Ground Zero.
Same with Judaism, per my quoted passages. Though clearly most pratctioners don't feel that way.
I don't think there is any one Muslim veiwpoint worldwide. Clearly there is a wide range of beliefs and practices - from suicide bombers to at least one member of the US Congress.
As Frijole pointed, the religious will often pick and choose what to follow and what not to - Jews and shellfish for example. And this:
Catholics for Choice stated in 1998 that 96% of U.S. Catholic women had used contraceptives at some point in their lives and that 72% of Catholics believed that one could be a good Catholic without obeying the Church's teaching on birth control. According to a nationwide poll of 2,242 U.S. adults surveyed online in September 2005 by Harris Interactive (they stated that the magnitude of errors cannot be estimated due to sampling errors, non-response,etc.), 90% of Catholics supported the use of birth control/contraceptives.
Since: Aug 11
#42006 Oct 17, 2012
CORRECTION: MIGHT disagree with you
#42007 Oct 17, 2012
Attitudes of Christians towards abortion
A majority of U.S. and Australian Catholics hold different views that differ from the official doctrine of their church. In a 1995 survey, 64% of U.S. Catholics say they disapprove of the statement that "abortion is morally wrong in every case". A 2008 survey found that 65% of American Catholics identified themselves as "pro-choice" but also found that 76% of these "pro-choice" Catholics believed that abortion should be significantly restricted. Some 58% of American Catholic women feel that they do not have to follow the abortion teaching of their bishop. Only 22% of U.S. Catholics agree with their church that abortion should be illegal in all cases.
A 1996 survey found that 72% of Australian Catholics say that the decision to have an abortion "should be left to individual women and their doctors."
According to a 2002 survey conducted by the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research, fundamentalist Christians are more likely to be pro-life than all other respondents, including mainline Protestants. Twenty-eight percent of fundamentalists thought abortion should be illegal even if there was a strong chance of birth defects whereas only nine percent of mainline Protestants held the same opinion. Seventy percent of fundamentalists felt that the desire not to have more children was not a sufficient justification for having an abortion while mainline Protestants were almost evenly divided on this question. However, an overwhelming majority of both fundamentalists and mainline Protestants indicated that they would support abortion in cases where the pregnancy endangered the mother's life.
#42008 Oct 17, 2012
Note what this means for 40% of Evangelicals:
51% of the general public in the United States think that "homosexual behavior" is morally wrong (38% "completely agreeing" it is morally wrong and 13% "somewhat agreeing"). Males and people over 65 years old are more likely to think it is wrong. Among people who don't know someone who is LGB, 61% think the behavior is wrong. Broken down by religion, 60% of evangelical Christians think that it is wrong, whereas 11% with no religious affiliation are against it. 57% of the general public think that gays and lesbians experience a lot of prejudice and discrimination, making it the group most believed to experience prejudice and discrimination.(Black Americans come in second at 42%).
Since: Aug 11
#42009 Oct 17, 2012
Again, cognitive dissonance. How long before people realize the church is full of sh...er, malarky, and start packing.
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