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Voluntarist

United States

#41813 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
In case you didnt notice, the home heating oil industry in CT is slowly dieing. And if Malloy's incentives for switching over to natural gas get adopted, then the industry is dead in the water.
Hardly, but that would be just like a Democrat, kill one industry off to make everyone reliant on the others, similar to what Obama wanted with coal.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41814 Oct 11, 2012
or June 2011
Voluntarist

United States

#41815 Oct 11, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
It sure did, and electric cars started selling like hot cakes, and wind and solar power suddenly became viable, etc, etc... Necessity is the mother of invention. High oil prices necessitates alternatives. If the "oil barrons" are pushing for sustained, higher prices, they're digging their own grave.
Actually I do not believe that enough supply is there, so there would be overwhelming demand for alternatives, thus pushing demand up for them.
Voluntarist

United States

#41816 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The moment you start talking in terms of the "elite", I reject your premise as paranoid.
Is elite not a word? I hear libs using it all the time when they talk about stealing <cough> redistribution of wealth.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#41817 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, cant have energy independance.
Must be beholden to big oil and our friends in Venezualea and Saudia Arabia.
BTW it was the Republican controlled house that defunded the security budget. You know, the same ones making the stink today.
The upside is that you would not have to pay allsorts of rogue-nations through the nose and can avoid wars to safeguard their and byproxy your interests.
Smartcookie Obama.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41818 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Is elite not a word? I hear libs using it all the time when they talk about stealing <cough> redistribution of wealth.
Its the context you use it in.

paranoid-
characterized by suspiciousness, persecutory trends, or megalomania
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41819 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly, but that would be just like a Democrat, kill one industry off to make everyone reliant on the others, similar to what Obama wanted with coal.
Actually, the free market is doing it for them. Do you live in an igloo? Are you that obtuse that you havent noticed the difference in prices?

The addition of Malloys initiave to the equation is to create jobs to offset the recognized inevitable decline of the industry. His idea is that the home oil companies can enter the energy retrofit business if they so desire.

Your views are heavily ideological and totally devoid of reality.

Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41820 Oct 11, 2012
Also, he is not providing subsidies to make this happen. He is setting up exchanges for the private sector to fund (for profit) the transformations.

Dont you hate it when your theories hold no water?
former res

Broomall, PA

#41821 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have a dog in the fight, I believe in a 100% volunteer free market.
I am just telling you the facts, Obama, even though he has kissenger in his camp, is THROUGH.
He pissed off the wrong big wigs.
100% free market doesn't work.

You end up with monopolies, price fixing, child labor, even slavery, unsafe products/food......

Check your history.

Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
Voluntarist

United States

#41822 Oct 11, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
100% free market doesn't work.
You end up with monopolies, price fixing, child labor, even slavery, unsafe products/food......
Check your history.
Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
You only end up with monopolies when government is in control.
The free market will root out unsafe foods,in a competitive environment you will have the best, safest food.
The government doesn't provide you with safe food.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41823 Oct 11, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
lol...I cant believe you bothered to ask him that. We already know the answer.
SeasideSoon

Fortson, GA

#41824 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at the timelines. Did they defund the diplomatic security before or after Lyban revolution? Its hard to argue misuse of funds when there was no institutional receivership.(Not that green energy is misuse of funds anyway).
To adapt a quote from the brilliant and popular Donald Rumsfeld - "you dont go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the army you have".
SPeaking of wasteful spending, how much does it cost per day to run a congressional political witchhunt?
What Einstein came up with the idea that a congressional investigation regarding Lybya a month from a major election can be anything other than politics?
Why cant Republicans stop spending the people's money on silly STUFF?
So now reducing security funding is a crazy idea? After all it was Mr.Obama who insisted that AlQaeda is on their heels and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and all is sweetness in the world? lol

What Einstein came up with the idea of keeping the Libya situation quiet during an election year, and lowering our profile there, and don't use the word 'terrorist' so as to bolster the administration's utopian mideast line?

Perhaps these silly hearings will answer that one.

Regarding other Einsteins, who was the Einstein that decided to have Watergate hearings? How long did those go on - months? or years?. Damned expensive. Difference is, nobody got killed.

Whatever happened to Vince Foster?

Silly stuff is greening our embassies during a time when we have a 16 trillion deficit, and Solyndra, and sending money to companies in Finland, buying oil from Hugo Chavez, and lifetime pensions for congress and the president.

Can you definitively say that congressman will be paid extra, above their annual salary, for coming to DC for hearings during a time when congress is not in session?
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41825 Oct 11, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>So now reducing security funding is a crazy idea? After all it was Mr.Obama who insisted that AlQaeda is on their heels and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and all is sweetness in the world? lol
What Einstein came up with the idea of keeping the Libya situation quiet during an election year, and lowering our profile there, and don't use the word 'terrorist' so as to bolster the administration's utopian mideast line?
Perhaps these silly hearings will answer that one.
Regarding other Einsteins, who was the Einstein that decided to have Watergate hearings? How long did those go on - months? or years?. Damned expensive. Difference is, nobody got killed.
Whatever happened to Vince Foster?
Silly stuff is greening our embassies during a time when we have a 16 trillion deficit, and Solyndra, and sending money to companies in Finland, buying oil from Hugo Chavez, and lifetime pensions for congress and the president.
Can you definitively say that congressman will be paid extra, above their annual salary, for coming to DC for hearings during a time when congress is not in session?
yes, reducing security to the state dept is a lousy idea in any era post Bush II.

I fail to see how we kept the Libya situation quiet. That is right wing propaganda.

Google Daryl Issa on the eve of his appointment to see what his intent is. He flat out admits he is using his bully pulpit to pester Obama. That is a waste of tax payer money by all definitions.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41826 Oct 11, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I believe his full position has been stated, he's prolife and would not promote legislative measures to enforce his views. He would put forth nominees to the Supreme Court that represent his views, as every president in the past has done. No big surprises or conspiracies here. Probably the news outlet you caught this on didn't present the whole story - no big surprise here either.
It was a news blurb. I heard the rest of the story later on, as you stated it above.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41827 Oct 11, 2012
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Motnhs ago i showed some numbers re. jobs all environmentally conscious plans will generate.
Read interesting new research. We always thought that petroleum was basicly ancient heat compressed fossil mini-creatures.
Now it turns out that methane when compressed can also make carb-hydrate connections.
And that seems to be the more feasible process.
Petroleum may be abiogenic, not fossil-based
www.fravahr.org
But it STILL generates WAY too much carbon dioxide for anyone to continue using it.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41828 Oct 11, 2012
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Motnhs ago i showed some numbers re. jobs all environmentally conscious plans will generate.
Read interesting new research. We always thought that petroleum was basicly ancient heat compressed fossil mini-creatures.
Now it turns out that methane when compressed can also make carb-hydrate connections.
And that seems to be the more feasible process.
Petroleum may be abiogenic, not fossil-based
www.fravahr.org
Oh, and it looks like most petroleum IS still fossil based, but the idea that some of it might not be opens some VERY interesting possibilities for the future. We might not need to worry about peak oil, after all.
Geologists and geochemists believe that nearly all (more than 99%) of the hydrocarbons in commercially produced crude oil and natural gas are formed by the decomposition of the remains of living organisms, which were buried under layers of sediments in the Earth’s crust, a region approximately 7-15 km below the Earth’s surface.

But hydrocarbons of purely chemical deep crustal or mantle origin (abiogenic) could occur in some geologic settings, such as rifts or subduction zones said Galli, a senior author on the study.
Artificial oil in the future?
Voluntarist

United States

#41829 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
If you look at consumption it was on the decline from 2006 to 2009.
Voluntarist

United States

#41830 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
Also, he is not providing subsidies to make this happen. He is setting up exchanges for the private sector to fund (for profit) the transformations.
Dont you hate it when your theories hold no water?
What theory are you referring to?
Voluntarist

United States

#41831 Oct 11, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and it looks like most petroleum IS still fossil based, but the idea that some of it might not be opens some VERY interesting possibilities for the future. We might not need to worry about peak oil, after all.
<quoted text>
Artificial oil in the future?
Peek oil was a scam to drive speculators bat shit
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#41833 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
What theory are you referring to?
http://www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp...

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