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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41820 Oct 11, 2012
Also, he is not providing subsidies to make this happen. He is setting up exchanges for the private sector to fund (for profit) the transformations.

Dont you hate it when your theories hold no water?
former res

Broomall, PA

#41821 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have a dog in the fight, I believe in a 100% volunteer free market.
I am just telling you the facts, Obama, even though he has kissenger in his camp, is THROUGH.
He pissed off the wrong big wigs.
100% free market doesn't work.

You end up with monopolies, price fixing, child labor, even slavery, unsafe products/food......

Check your history.

Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
Voluntarist

United States

#41822 Oct 11, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
100% free market doesn't work.
You end up with monopolies, price fixing, child labor, even slavery, unsafe products/food......
Check your history.
Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
You only end up with monopolies when government is in control.
The free market will root out unsafe foods,in a competitive environment you will have the best, safest food.
The government doesn't provide you with safe food.
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41823 Oct 11, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't your government provide you with a basic education??
lol...I cant believe you bothered to ask him that. We already know the answer.
SeasideSoon

Hoschton, GA

#41824 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at the timelines. Did they defund the diplomatic security before or after Lyban revolution? Its hard to argue misuse of funds when there was no institutional receivership.(Not that green energy is misuse of funds anyway).
To adapt a quote from the brilliant and popular Donald Rumsfeld - "you dont go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the army you have".
SPeaking of wasteful spending, how much does it cost per day to run a congressional political witchhunt?
What Einstein came up with the idea that a congressional investigation regarding Lybya a month from a major election can be anything other than politics?
Why cant Republicans stop spending the people's money on silly STUFF?
So now reducing security funding is a crazy idea? After all it was Mr.Obama who insisted that AlQaeda is on their heels and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and all is sweetness in the world? lol

What Einstein came up with the idea of keeping the Libya situation quiet during an election year, and lowering our profile there, and don't use the word 'terrorist' so as to bolster the administration's utopian mideast line?

Perhaps these silly hearings will answer that one.

Regarding other Einsteins, who was the Einstein that decided to have Watergate hearings? How long did those go on - months? or years?. Damned expensive. Difference is, nobody got killed.

Whatever happened to Vince Foster?

Silly stuff is greening our embassies during a time when we have a 16 trillion deficit, and Solyndra, and sending money to companies in Finland, buying oil from Hugo Chavez, and lifetime pensions for congress and the president.

Can you definitively say that congressman will be paid extra, above their annual salary, for coming to DC for hearings during a time when congress is not in session?
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41825 Oct 11, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>So now reducing security funding is a crazy idea? After all it was Mr.Obama who insisted that AlQaeda is on their heels and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and all is sweetness in the world? lol
What Einstein came up with the idea of keeping the Libya situation quiet during an election year, and lowering our profile there, and don't use the word 'terrorist' so as to bolster the administration's utopian mideast line?
Perhaps these silly hearings will answer that one.
Regarding other Einsteins, who was the Einstein that decided to have Watergate hearings? How long did those go on - months? or years?. Damned expensive. Difference is, nobody got killed.
Whatever happened to Vince Foster?
Silly stuff is greening our embassies during a time when we have a 16 trillion deficit, and Solyndra, and sending money to companies in Finland, buying oil from Hugo Chavez, and lifetime pensions for congress and the president.
Can you definitively say that congressman will be paid extra, above their annual salary, for coming to DC for hearings during a time when congress is not in session?
yes, reducing security to the state dept is a lousy idea in any era post Bush II.

I fail to see how we kept the Libya situation quiet. That is right wing propaganda.

Google Daryl Issa on the eve of his appointment to see what his intent is. He flat out admits he is using his bully pulpit to pester Obama. That is a waste of tax payer money by all definitions.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41826 Oct 11, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I believe his full position has been stated, he's prolife and would not promote legislative measures to enforce his views. He would put forth nominees to the Supreme Court that represent his views, as every president in the past has done. No big surprises or conspiracies here. Probably the news outlet you caught this on didn't present the whole story - no big surprise here either.
It was a news blurb. I heard the rest of the story later on, as you stated it above.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41827 Oct 11, 2012
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Motnhs ago i showed some numbers re. jobs all environmentally conscious plans will generate.
Read interesting new research. We always thought that petroleum was basicly ancient heat compressed fossil mini-creatures.
Now it turns out that methane when compressed can also make carb-hydrate connections.
And that seems to be the more feasible process.
Petroleum may be abiogenic, not fossil-based
www.fravahr.org
But it STILL generates WAY too much carbon dioxide for anyone to continue using it.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#41828 Oct 11, 2012
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Motnhs ago i showed some numbers re. jobs all environmentally conscious plans will generate.
Read interesting new research. We always thought that petroleum was basicly ancient heat compressed fossil mini-creatures.
Now it turns out that methane when compressed can also make carb-hydrate connections.
And that seems to be the more feasible process.
Petroleum may be abiogenic, not fossil-based
www.fravahr.org
Oh, and it looks like most petroleum IS still fossil based, but the idea that some of it might not be opens some VERY interesting possibilities for the future. We might not need to worry about peak oil, after all.
Geologists and geochemists believe that nearly all (more than 99%) of the hydrocarbons in commercially produced crude oil and natural gas are formed by the decomposition of the remains of living organisms, which were buried under layers of sediments in the Earth’s crust, a region approximately 7-15 km below the Earth’s surface.

But hydrocarbons of purely chemical deep crustal or mantle origin (abiogenic) could occur in some geologic settings, such as rifts or subduction zones said Galli, a senior author on the study.
Artificial oil in the future?
Voluntarist

United States

#41829 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
If you look at consumption it was on the decline from 2006 to 2009.
Voluntarist

United States

#41830 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
Also, he is not providing subsidies to make this happen. He is setting up exchanges for the private sector to fund (for profit) the transformations.
Dont you hate it when your theories hold no water?
What theory are you referring to?
Voluntarist

United States

#41831 Oct 11, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and it looks like most petroleum IS still fossil based, but the idea that some of it might not be opens some VERY interesting possibilities for the future. We might not need to worry about peak oil, after all.
<quoted text>
Artificial oil in the future?
Peek oil was a scam to drive speculators bat shit
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41833 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
What theory are you referring to?
http://www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp...
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41834 Oct 11, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at consumption it was on the decline from 2006 to 2009.
Look at June 2008 where gas was at a high, yet profit was not.
Voluntarist

United States

#41835 Oct 11, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at June 2008 where gas was at a high, yet profit was not.
irrelevant, there are times where prices were lower and profits were lower, accounting tricks in every trade.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#41836 Oct 11, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and it looks like most petroleum IS still fossil based, but the idea that some of it might not be opens some VERY interesting possibilities for the future. We might not need to worry about peak oil, after all.
<quoted text>
Artificial oil in the future?
Methane, of which we have huge extiction events amounts, is better of as petroleum.
But indeed we need to get to less poluting energy sources.

Watched Biden-Ryan tonight.

Biden forgot to score on Wisconsin.
The only state where unemployment is up.
Why? Because the extreme conservative republican governor fired half the administration!

Got more clearity on the 47 % scrounchers. Ryan 30 % are takers. Who indeed payed more income-tax than Romney ever payed in federal taxes and are the life of any country, the job generators. Which are basicly old middleclass-people or soldiers exempt from paying tax, for the most part.

A good moderator. And Biden was just as obnoxious and astute (jumping on more malarkey from Ryan) as mister Romney was without cause in the debate with the president.
Romney should not become president. Within 24 hours he offended America's staunched ally, i.e. Great Britain, as was stupid beyond, by announcing to the world that he had just had a meeting with the British Intelligence Agency c.q. secutiry council.
I know Americans do not care, but he would be dangerous.
It shows a car sales man that enjoys his crawl up, but without the khow-how to deal with any foreign politics and security issues.

A few weeks ago he announced: We are going to conquer America.
Today Ryan informed us how: We are going to cut 120,000 marines.
It's meant in the sense of cutting funding, but combined it makes a strange picture.

Any plans in other areas: secret or not known ...we are going to go bi-partizan. So they are going to make everything stroppy again.

If you vote repub and you are young your healthcare will undergo the same missery as the housing debacle.

Biden stated that whatever his private catholic pro-life ideas were, he did not feel that it should be imposed on people that have different views on life and different faiths.

I thought Ryan was a dirty player when he came with the example of a man loosing half his family in a car-accident. And this family father telling of the goodness of mister Romney to pay for the college-education of this mans son.
Biden lost his wife and daughter in a car crash and had to take care of two sons also! It was cheap, under the belt and mean.

And all 'facts' mentioned by Ryan, but maybe one or two, turned out to be wrong.
AGAIN.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41837 Oct 12, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
What references. He cites little or no references to support his lecture.
When he gave the lectures in 1925 there was no Internet and there were no web addresses. What he says is well known to Muslims and what he says about other religions is a common knowledge for people of those religions.

If you have some problem about any specific issue, feel free to ask.

Making such general comments is not correct.
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41841 Oct 12, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
When he gave the lectures in 1925 there was no Internet and there were no web addresses. What he says is well known to Muslims and what he says about other religions is a common knowledge for people of those religions.
If you have some problem about any specific issue, feel free to ask.
Making such general comments is not correct.
Back in the days before the internet (mid 1990s and before) one did footnotes and bibliography. Now we still do this with the internet, except we "link" to them.

Didnt you ever have to write a term paper in high school?

Maybe you should ponder what a well researched written work might do to your notion of "common knowledge".
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41842 Oct 12, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
irrelevant, there are times where prices were lower and profits were lower,
As well as the reverse (prices the highest and profits lowest)- essentially debunking your assertion that the oil "elites" (your term) want the highest of oil prices in order to maximize profits.
Frijoles

South Glastonbury, CT

#41843 Oct 12, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>So now reducing security funding is a crazy idea? After all it was Mr.Obama who insisted that AlQaeda is on their heels and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and all is sweetness in the world? lol
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/...

Rep. Chaffetz says he "absolutely" voted to cut funding for embassy security

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) criticizes the handling of Libyan consulate security despite voting to cut embassy funding.

Rep. Chaffetz says,“I think what we’re going to hear is that we didn’t meet the basic, minimum standards required for a facility such as the one we had in Benghazi. And the request for more security personnel went unheeded, unanswered, and consequently, you know, you have the death of four Americans. We [have to] make sure that that doesn’t happen again in Libya. But we also [have to] make sure it doesn’t happen in other places around the world…. We [have to] get at the truth, but thus far it’s been a slippery attempt to try to get the truth because the White House and the Obama administration’s been very slow in giving us the facts.”

Later in the interview, CNN Anchor Soledad O’Brien asks,“Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?”

Chaffetz answers,“Absolutely. Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have… 15,0000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in touch economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

O’Brien responds,“Okay, so you’re prioritizing. So, when there are complaints that, in fact, that there was not enough security, you just said,‘absolutely,’ that you cut, you were the one to vote against to increase security for the State Department, which would lead directly to Benghazi. That seems like you’re saying you have a hand in the responsibility to this. The funding of the security? How am I wrong?”

Rep. Chaffetz says,“When you’re in Libya, after a revolution… you [have to] prioritize things. And what clearly didn’t happen is Libya was not a priority. I believe what I heard is that it’s because they wanted the appearance of normalization. That’s what they wanted. And that fit with Obama narrative moving forward.”

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