john kenney found guilty in grimes killings

Full story: Monterey County Herald

John Kenney, in court on Wednesday with his attorney Daniel Olmos, was found guilty of murder in the first degree of Elizabeth Grimes and second-degree murder of Mel Grimes.
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Kimberly

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Jan 22, 2011
 
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Just watched the dateline show about this horrible tragedy. I was in complete shock that someone would use a gun, when it was far from necessary.
I was also appalled with the way the daughter was talking about her father. "He's a caring man"...Yet he shot a dying woman in the back. Yeah, dont think he's so caring after all. Just because he provided them a comfortable lifestyle doesn't mean he's caring, it means he has money.
The satellite lost the signal when they played back Kenney's 911 call. Could someone paraphrase it?
I hope Kenney lives till hes 120 and rots in jail.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31112998/ns/datel...

Transcript of Dateline episode....911 call near the end.

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May Mel and Elizabeth rest in peace irregardless of the outcome, but Mr. Kenney was not guilty he was just trying to defend himself. The jury didn't believe him because of a dispute about 1988 or 1994 which has nothing to do with self defense at the scene. They charged at him what would you do if you were old and with a cane and someone tried to hit you with a sledgehammer?
Just because someone is old doesn't mean he's warm and fuzzy. An old finger can pull the trigger on a gun as well as a younger one.
Are YOU crazy for even trying to justify what this old windbag did to two nice people. Just listen to the 911 call from Elizabeth Grimes and her dying words to her husband, "I love you!"
I hope that old fart gets what he deserves from another prisoner - smack dab in the middle of his back! May the Mel and Elizabeth rest in peace.

Oh, by the way it's scary, bozo!
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John Kenney cold blooded controlling murderer! Does not deserve to see the light of day! So Sad! He believes he did nothing wrong. SMH!
JOHN

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#121
Apr 23, 2011
 
what a sad sad story.
kinda wish i didnt watch this one, kinda conferms how evil people can be. what is it now every 1 in 1.5 people are nuts?
Hope

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Months before the murder, Kenney breaks into the Grime's home, probably to ensure they have no firearms in the house, as he plans their murders. Premeditated, yes. Self Defense, no.

The Kenney family doesn't even appear in court to support their husband/father until the day of the verdict? Doesn't sound like a loving, supporting family. Why not appear at the start of the trial, were they only interested in the verdict and how they would be looked upon if he was found guilty.

Caring ... hmmm .... not with the final message "welcome to hell," that Kenney cruelly inflicted upon the dying Elizabeth. As if shooting a crouching, defenseless person in the back was not enough infliction. Premeditated, yes. Self defense, no.

Kenney was only interested in escalating the situation. he knew the land was an easement, he knew the neighboring property had a legal right of way. He opted to ignore the laws for his own self-serving malicious intents.

When asked to turn over any/all his firearms, Kenney lied about ownership. Premeditated. Yes. Self defense. No.

Even when Kenney called 911, he did not call for back-up for the still living Elizabeth. No, instead, when asked to describe the severity of the emergency/injuries, he states he doesn't want to explain (while he is aware a person has life threatening injuries)and instead says, "I hope you come," and hangs up. Premeditated. Yes. Self defense. No.

When the EMT's arrive and when Kenney is asked how Elizabeth was shot, Kenney explains Elizabeth did it to herself. Premeditating her death, still. Yes! Self defense. No.

Kenney appears so self-absorbed with his intent to harm/injure/kill his neighbors, that he never realized Elizabeth was on the phone with 911 and Kenney's acts of murder were being recorded. I guess it was the recorded phone call he did not plan to reveal his true intent (murder).

Now in Kenney's appeal, Feb. 2011, Kenney states the judge wrongly instructed jurors on laws of self defense. 5 shots, shots fired into the back of a person, death shots fired after the member is down on the ground and immobile.

He also states the judge wrongly allowed the prosecution to allow the DVD evidence found in Kenney's home titled "First and Finish," which counseled viewers to attack when threatened. Um, the defense counsel was told (prior to trial) that should the defense use the "self defense" position, the DVD was admissible evidence. The defense went forward (Kenney agreeing)with the "Self Defense" position allowing the Prosecutor to bring forth the DVD as evidence. What Kenney didn't count on was that his library and studies and premeditation of murder would be viewed as the senseless, unnecessary, cruel, calculating, psychopathic act he indeed committed against the Grimes.

Just because Kenney justified the murders, while plotting his trial strategy months before he committed the murders, now he states the Judge, his past Defense, and the Prosecutor (and the jurors)are all wrong, don't know the laws to be able to conduct a fair trail to show how he, Kenney, was right and justified.

Kenney is a sociopath.

http://www.montereyherald.com/local/ci_173775...

'According to testimony, Kenney earlier told his attorney, Nick Cvietkovich, he planned to defend himself if his neighbors entered his house. The lawyer told him he could "use deadly force if you feel you're about to get hurt seriously or killed."'
Yeah, about that, it's ok for Kenney to trespass and break into the Grimes home, when Kenney feels the right.

Now Kenney claims murdering neighbors is proper use of reasonable force to defend his property and remove trespassers.

Sociopath. Never Kenney him out of prison.
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How sick is it to file a 3 year old "pain and suffering" law suit against your murdered victims? More than 3 years after the incident was to have supposedly occurred, and Kenney waits to file the "pain and suffering" suit until you he has killed the Grimes, when they cannot defend themselves and when the Grimes' family is truly suffering.

I guess murdering is not enough, Kenney continues to inflict pain and seems to have a need to pull in more Grimes' victims. Glad the courts dismissed the senseless suit.

It is unbelievable Christian's from the church Kenney attended would defend Kenney's actions, there are enough snippets of Kenney's testimony to know his actions are not defendable "welcome to hell", doesn't inform 911 of Elizabeth, when he does call, etc. Admits to breaking into the house, shows outward cause to provoke, etc. These people are not Christians.

http://www.pineconearchive.com/070615-3.html

These actions were part of an effort by the couple to “vex, annoy and harass” him and were done out of a conscious sense of “ill will and spite,” Kenney maintains.
The suit makes no mention of the murder charges. It also does not mention that the Grimes’ are dead
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FINALLY JUSTICE IS SERVED AND WE CAN SLEEP IN OUR S WITHOUT THE FEAR OF KENNY OUT OF PRISON.
I just got done watching this story on Dateline I.D. and can not believe that this monster got away with treating these ppl like this through out the time he spent living up on that hill. He actualy got away with putting that rock in the Grimes parking lot all because this monster had a few feet of land that he owned that was near the Grimes parking. What a monster and a horrible man. A controling bast@^d. I feel the sherrif dept is to blame for allowing all this to happen. They assisted this monster in all of this. Im so saddened by these poor ppls death and how they were hunted down and murdered. I hope he will rot in jail.
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Like someone else said, I am also sorry I watched this, not know I would hear the crime in real time at the end of the dateline mystery crime youtube. What a hateful hateful madman that murderer is (I don't want to write his name I have such contempt for him). He was carrying around anger at the world for years and was a ticking bomb. And how obvious his living apart from his French family was probably because his wife wanted it and who could blame her living with this monster. And those adopted daughters going on about how great he was, they know a meal ticket when they see it. And his christian supporters, they know a meal ticket better than anyone. God bless Mel and Elizabath. I hope that monster murderer is spending every last minute of his life in severe depression and --- remorse!
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We can all be glad that this mad man will never, ever see the spit of land he fought peaceful people so violently for...

I wonder how many of his Christian friends go to visit him in prison.
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<quoted text>Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't manipulated scenarios before. He seems like he ruled his family with an iron fist.
and it seems to me his family knows it too and wanted to get away from him, didn't you hear the part where they moved back to France? They loved the old man so much that they moved to another country where they can't visit him every day. Sounds to me like they didn't care too darn much. I'm appauled at Mr Kenney coming out of his house with a gun after being told by his lawyer and the police to stay in his house no matter what.

He wanted that confrontation and was sure that no one would convict an 'old man' of murder. Glad he got his comeuppance.
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In defense you are so wrong!!! Mr. Kenney is a liar and an evil evil man, he got what he deserved!!! He had no remorse and he is a piece of crap! I hope he rots in jail!
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Like someone else said, I am also sorry I watched this, not know I would hear the crime in real time at the end of the dateline mystery crime youtube. What a hateful hateful madman that murderer is (I don't want to write his name I have such contempt for him). He was carrying around anger at the world for years and was a ticking bomb. And how obvious his living apart from his French family was probably because his wife wanted it and who could blame her living with this monster. And those adopted daughters going on about how great he was, they know a meal ticket when they see it. And his christian supporters, they know a meal ticket better than anyone. God bless Mel and Elizabath. I hope that monster murderer is spending every last minute of his life in severe depression and --- remorse!
great wording!!!
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I just saw this on Dateline...I hope this John Kenny rots forever.....
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I just saw this on a repeat Dateline....I hope John rots in hell!
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I didn't get every detail and all the fact's of the case, I watched it on ID. From what I saw on the show about how these neighbor's live their lives beside each other Kenney should have got the death penalty and I don't even believe in that. When I heard the 911 call from Mrs. Grimes and realized what was happening, to hear those two people expressing their love for each other as they lay dieing my heart hit the floor. I don't know why but I just felt so hurt and shocked all at the same time that this man could be this cold and heartless as to take these people's lives for his own gain and pleasure. It's a tragic loss for so many of their family member's and I'm just heart-broken over the whole thing. Mr. Kenney shouldn't be allowed to see daylight again. That 911 call is terrible and graphic. At the end of the day he didn't have any Remorse or Feeling's about ending this couple's life and that's just SAD...He's PSYCHO...
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kenney,got less than he gave,why,such nice people had to die,the world needs more people like the grimes.
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Kenny that piece of $H(# shouldn't be allowed to see daylight again.
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Burn in hell John Kenney! You are one evil, cold or no hearted man. Rest in peace Mel and Elizabeth.
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Army, people like you are scare me because you think you know it all.
..........wow if people like "ARMY" scare you...U MUST BE PRETTY DUMB, CAUSE HE`S RIGHT! I WOULD HATE TO BE YOUR NEIGHBOR......smh.
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This man is a monster and put those poop people through hell for years. How he thinks he actually has the right to shoot innocent people and take their lives is beyond me. He is a sociopath who killed over a strip of useless land. He had every intention of killing them, when he heard Mel trying to smash his ridiculous rock. Self defense is laughable cause if he had done what his security expert told him to do (stay in your house and call 911 if any problems occur) then a son would still have his parents. He should have tried a defense of insanity because that's what he clearly is INSANE!!! He will die behind bars thinking he had the right to do what he did and will spend eternity in hell where he really belongs. My heart goes out to Elizabeth, Mel and their son.

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