john kenney found guilty in grimes killings

Full story: Monterey County Herald

John Kenney, in court on Wednesday with his attorney Daniel Olmos, was found guilty of murder in the first degree of Elizabeth Grimes and second-degree murder of Mel Grimes.
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GEMSTONE

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Moi from Carmel Valley wrote:
In Defense - I don't think you've been following the trial very closely.
John Kenney killed two unarmed people. He shot a crouching woman in the back. He shot both of them twice. The property in dispute was NOT owned by Kenney. The property in dispute had been USED by the Grimes' for 10 years BEFORE John Kenney even bought his house.
You do realize, don't you, that you heard exactly ONE side of the story? Do you even get why that is? That's because the two people who could tell the other side of the story were both dead. They couldn't say one word in their own defense.
Did you listen to the 911 phone call from Elizabeth Grimes? She was not angry or defensive or attacking John Kenney. She was scared. It was NOT the voice of an agressive (petite) woman attacking a poor old defenseless man with a cane. He was not defenseless, remember? He had a gun. Did you happen to read about John Kenney's description of how he was holding the gun? He was holding it as he was taught in the service - with two hands. Where was the cane that this poor, defenseless man needed? Oh yeah - about that gun - it was the gun that he lied about having. Would an upstanding citizen lie about having a gun? Personally, I feel that what occurred was premeditated. John Kenney received a much lighter verdict than I would have given him.
And by the way, Mel Grimes was a friend from years ago. He never once displayed even the tiniest bit of anger in all the time I knew him.
I'm sorry that you don't have your facts straight. Or your opinions.
Well done !
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Army wrote:
Gemstone, JavaJunkie and Friend Of All, thanks for the support! I surely don't know everything, but I have followed this trial closely because I have a shared driveway with an easement in a wooded section of Monterey County, so the trial was very interesting for me.
It is my pleasure to speak to and support someone who makes sense, is not ignorant, and is knowledgable about the Facts ! Thank you for you input. I did listen to the 911 tape, towards the end of this., and felt so, so much empathy for these two wonderful people who were terrorized by their neighbor. THey were the ones living in fear., rightfully so. He was the "Neighbor from Hell"........
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Sep 19, 2008
 
Army, I grew up in Monterey County, all my life. My family lives there. I spend a lot of time there. I had a home in Monterey and, Its HOME ! So I was compelled and concerned to follow this as well.
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Sep 19, 2008
 
In Defense wrote:
Army, people like you are scarey because you think you know it all.
He does know it all. He is well informed about the facts, when he opens his mouth to speak. If he did not know something, he wouldn't open his mouth to speak... I don't find that scary. When he says his thoughts on a matter, it's "right on".(In Defense of Army) Ms. Gemstone
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Hey, at least Army can spell and use proper grammar. YOU can't. LOL
I agree !
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Sep 22, 2008
 
I thought Kenney would have appealed the verdict by now. I wonder who will handle the appeal. I assume Kenney spent his money on the first trial, and will have a Public Defender for his appeal. That makes me wonder if any Monterey County Public Defender would willingly take him on, and if not, then will the trial be moved?
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The neighbors of the killer had such a different lifestyle. 100,000 albums in one's record collection versus a guy who knows all about oil and rocks. I think the latter got ticked off because he saw his new boulder get assaulted with a sledge hammer. He was waiting for something to happen. That is why he had his gun ready. His mistake was having expectations of what was going to happen and having his consciousness focus entirely on that new dense object he had dumped in the driveway. It is a shocking shame that two people got wasted because of a miscalculating and crippled consciousness. Large rocks, like boulders, seem immovable. There are religious connotations in making the statement of placing such an object in the way. I believe the killer felt justified in taking those lives.
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Anthony wrote:
The hippie lawyer and his wife got what they coming to them. Kenney did what he had to do because the police and justice system failed to protect his property rights.
The world will not weep for one less lawyer.
Kenney won: Kenney 2 Grimes 1
your comment is pathetic !
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There is a continous stream of killings,assaults and mayhem over these private access easements. In all the cases I know (>20 now) it is the servient eg Kenney assaulting the dominant eg Grimes. See easements on YOUTUBE. I own a 500' long 50' wide access easement. In 10 years I was assaulted 6 times (one attempted murder tried as misd. assault & battery - guilty) shot at at least twice (I am a combat vet of Vietnam, I know the snap) had many death threats, threats to my wife and child. Why?? In one drunken obscene rant he said "We're getiing rid of you and your easement" He and his scheming buddy wanted my house and land cheap. The judge got rid of him when his lawyer wanted out because of death threats to me. See New Yorker article "Right of Way" Calvin Trillum May 1985 We had 3 trials. My profession was lost and my savings gone. We desparatly need protection for easement owners from these violence prone bullies.
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kenny doesn't have a leg to stand on. Forget an appeal. Do your time.
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You all have a right to your opinion. Had any one of you spent time in the canyon or with any of the parties involved in the past four years? Basing your opinion on news articles is silly. Sound off if you must but make sure your facts are not just from the media! I Saw what was going on, dealt with all involved, and know there is more to the story than what is being posted. Let ALL involved in this tragic situation have closure and let us learn from this...

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murray wrote:
You all have a right to your opinion. Had any one of you spent time in the canyon or with any of the parties involved in the past four years? Basing your opinion on news articles is silly. Sound off if you must but make sure your facts are not just from the media! I Saw what was going on, dealt with all involved, and know there is more to the story than what is being posted. Let ALL involved in this tragic situation have closure and let us learn from this...
Oh please wise sage, share your insight and wisdom on the matter from.....Illinois.

Yeah, ALWAYS more to the story for a double murderer.....not.
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Mach5Motorsport wrote:
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Oh please wise sage, share your insight and wisdom on the matter from.....Illinois.
Yeah, ALWAYS more to the story for a double murderer.....not.
By accident I proved my point. I am a 25 year resident of Hitchcock Canyon in Carmel Valley. Don't know where the Illinois came from but you saw that and assumed that it was correct.. I am not saying murder is the answer, Just have a better grasp of the facts before spouting off..

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murray wrote:
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By accident I proved my point. I am a 25 year resident of Hitchcock Canyon in Carmel Valley. Don't know where the Illinois came from but you saw that and assumed that it was correct.. I am not saying murder is the answer, Just have a better grasp of the facts before spouting off..
If you have a better grasp why keep them to yourself? The "fact" that a real, violent crime happened in Carmel Valley and that law enforcement was asleep seeing the signs that bad things were happening?

Oh yeah, it's always common to place large rocks behind other owner's vehicles and homes.
You have alluded to "facts" yet you show nothing. Kinda like the Kenney defense.
Please.......
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Check out other neighbors involved in disputes with grimes. Stephan Youngman, brush dumped on his land as well as illegal drain field emptying onto his property. Freestanding structures and house additions with no permits built by Grimes. Altercations with Elizabeth over property issues not involving her or her property. Previous assault by Elizabeth on Kenney. I agree Law enforcement could have done more and the courts could have listened better. The story is represented as a small chunk of dirt, there is more to it. I don't condone the shooting just the media hype and goofy comments. Mach5 seems to be taking this personally my comments are general and not directed at any one person.. Happy Thansgiving

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ah, You get defensive and claim everyone else takes it personally, LOL

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Mach5Motorsport wrote:
ah, You get defensive and claim everyone else takes it personally, LOL
weak
Not everyone just you!

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ah murray, you are the "johnny come late" poster anyway. You waited to offer your three cents AFTER the trial and conviction anyway. have fun
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Mach5, "Johnny come late" could be accurate. The moral problem I had before involved the six interviews I had to do with the D.A. and the defense and being prepped for testimony in the trial. I also helped Elizabeths son clean up and sort through the property and the turmoil he and his family were put through. I did not want to comment freely for the fact that it may affect the trial. All you saw was the media I was knee deep in the situation. So make your petty comments based on what you know. You want to talk weak? You have no idea what we all went through and never will. So have fun with your petty finger pointing I hope it makes you feel bigger in your day to day bullshit..

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