D.A. alleges John Kenney laid in wait to kill Grimeses

Prosecutors have filed new special-circumstance allegations in the case against a Carmel Valley man accused of killing his neighbors. Full Story
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cvtree

United States

#1 Feb 7, 2008
Hill "theorized" ! this whole trialc is based on hearsay and speculation. Nobody but Kenney saw what happened. It will be interesting to see the results.
jvs

AOL

#2 Feb 7, 2008
IF THIS MAN IS NOT GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER ON TWO COUNTS, THE LEGAL SYSTEM HAS LET US ALL DOWN BUT JOHN KENNY.
HE IS A MEAN SPIRITED MAN WHO WAS ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING.
I KNOW, WE LIVED NEXT DOOR!!!!!
Illusions in the Valley

United States

#3 Mar 14, 2008
It is very sad that Mr. Kenney owned a piece of property next door to the pot-supporting/pot-promoting Grimes family, trying to live in seclusion. Instead, by the Grimes' over-reaching property boundaries, Kenney was thrown into the legal system in Monterey (against a local attorney no less... almost an impossible feat to win any case), trying to maintain his property lines. The Grimes built illegally on Kenney's property, used the local "old boys network" of the legal system to accommodate their own desires, took out restraining orders on a neighbor (not the best of ideas), and went out of their way to humiliate Kenney at his church, with his friends, and even in the sanctuary of his own home. What person wouldn't crack?

For non-locals who try and make a place for themselves in the incestuous community of the peninsula, it will always be an uphill battle. But both sides in this case harrassed each other, were uncooperative, and had attorneys doing legal maneuvers to the point that any sensitive human being would lose it.

I doubt (if you were to ask) that Mr. Kenney ever intended to be placed in the position where he now resides... in fact, his situation is a shining example of how, given enough provoking, a normal and well-educated member of society will break, crack, and merely try to put an end to the imminent misery.

The irony is that Grimes spent his career defending criminals far worse than Kenney, some of them getting off with far less than what Kenney will probably receive. He defended a fellow who murdered a local girl from Pacific Grove. It's hard to feel empathy, when one knew Kimmy. My empathy lies with Kenney, and the lack of fair trial he will receive in the Monterey court system. No one will ever hear the truth. He was obviously pushed too far, by people who thought they were outside the rules.
geoffrey

Châteauguay, Canada

#4 Jun 8, 2009
defending kenney is ridiculous, this man kenney is sick and a murderer!! he KILLED two people in cold blood! It is so obvious he planned this! Why else would he happen to have a gun? why would he confront them with putting a huge rock blocking vehicles!! Sick sick man.
Michigan

Jackson, MI

#5 Jun 8, 2009
I agree he is a cold and calculating psychopath,
this man didn't turn in a few months or even a year. He has always been this way. He's a power hungry person, who would do anything to get to the top and stay there. AT ANY cost. Look at this guys psychological make-up. There are to kinds of people who get power in this world. One will abuse it, the other will be philanthrapic, and give back to the world. Will live AND LET live. He didn't get to the top by being sybmissive. We all have choices in how we chose to use the power we aquire in this life. What choice will you choose. What path will you take in the journey of your life. Will you bring good into the world or will you bring evil. Will you use your stength & power to crush or to raise up. Murder is murder and to have to be so controlling that you cannot share a beautiful tree paved road leading out into the world to travel, to go shopping, to go to work..is nothing but pure hatred & pure evil in the souls of men like this.
Cruelty

Jackson, MI

#6 Jun 8, 2009
Yes, a senseless tragedy. Whoever stands behind Kenny I question you also, thank God your are not my neighbor. I shall see you in prison too. Sick.
GrowinUp

Van Nuys, CA

#7 Jun 9, 2009
This older guy spent his days finding projects to stay busy and finding conflicts to keep himself interested. Everybody gets a sense of pride over keeping their property nice and everybody resents the neighbors who don't. Kenney's mistake was making his standards EVERYONE's standard.
It seems too many older people stop growing, stop trying to understand and adapt to a changing world. They allow themselves to get isolated, and that way lies fear and paranoia for anyone. I can get how Kenney could convince himself he was in danger.
But it's no excuse. His chose a course of action. Just like every elderly driver who convinces themselves they're not dangerous, Kenney decided he was in the right, without question.
I enjoy and respect the elderly. It's a sad realization that they are at great risk of delusion and criminal arrogance.
Justice for All

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

#8 Jun 13, 2009
What a swine this Kenny guy was! Thought he could block their driveway with no consequences. I would have burned this son of a bitch's house down.

Why did his family live in France? Probably couldn't get along with them either? He should be forced to watch videos of his victims for the rest of his life. I've know jerks like him and they are sick bastards. He thought he could force everyone else to comply with his "standards". F him. Should have been hung in the public square.
TwoSides

Roseville, CA

#9 Jun 27, 2010
There are two sides to every dispute and I believe Kenney was guilty of arrogance, a victim of bad advice, but not murder. While what happened to the Grimes was tragic, and that shot in the back is worrisome - I believe their culpability was downplayed. Kenney was harrassed, intimidated - should he have handled it by placing a giant boulder on the driveway? Clearly not. But there's guilt/culpability on both sides. The Grimes should not have done what they did, Kenney should not have blocked their access. Whoever advised Kenney to do that should have been charged as an accomplice. This dispute was obvious to the entire community and they should have done something before it escalated to this point. Shame on Carmel Valley.
Demon Hunter XX sniper

Atlanta, GA

#10 Jul 1, 2010
I hope this John Kenny psychopath rots in Prison. He is a worthless waste of a human being. He killed two innocent people who were loving caring human beings. Then he lied about it and acted like he was the victim. What a freaking piece of trash. He should burn in hell for eternity. I wish I could have been there to help those poor people. I would love to see what my Barrett 50BMG would do to that ugly John Kenny's egg head. He better be glad those were not MY parents he killed because there would be NOTHING left of him when I got done.

Since: Sep 09

Carmel Valley, CA

#11 Jul 1, 2010
TwoSides wrote:
There are two sides to every dispute and I believe Kenney was guilty of arrogance, a victim of bad advice, but not murder. While what happened to the Grimes was tragic, and that shot in the back is worrisome - I believe their culpability was downplayed. Kenney was harrassed, intimidated - should he have handled it by placing a giant boulder on the driveway? Clearly not. But there's guilt/culpability on both sides. The Grimes should not have done what they did, Kenney should not have blocked their access. Whoever advised Kenney to do that should have been charged as an accomplice. This dispute was obvious to the entire community and they should have done something before it escalated to this point. Shame on Carmel Valley.
Shame on Carmel Valley? Wow! Blame-shifting taken to a whole new level.

I've known Mel Grimes for decades. He was a kind, caring person. Yes, there are two sides. But taking a sledge hammer to a boulder does not warrant being shot. Oh, and Elizabeth wasn't hammering that boulder at all. She was on the phone to 911 when she was killed. Being shot in the back is a "little worrisome." Do you know that John Kenney had military training? He lied about having a gun? During the trial he demonstrated how he shot them. He took a military stance, both hands on the gun, and shot them each twice. Just because he was 'older' does not mean he was frail.

Perhaps you could explain how "This dispute was obvious to the entire community..." I live right down the road from these properties. I didn't know this was going on. And the properties are in a very rural area, up a narrow canyon. I don't know where you get your information but you should shop around for another source because it's incorrect.

But you're right about charging whoever advised John Kenney to place that boulder. It was his attorney. However, his attorney TOLD him to stay IN his house and not confront the Grimes' when they discovered the boulder.
Justinia

Felton, DE

#12 Jul 1, 2010
TwoSides wrote:
There are two sides to every dispute and I believe Kenney was guilty of arrogance, a victim of bad advice, but not murder. While what happened to the Grimes was tragic, and that shot in the back is worrisome - I believe their culpability was downplayed. Kenney was harrassed, intimidated - should he have handled it by placing a giant boulder on the driveway? Clearly not. But there's guilt/culpability on both sides. The Grimes should not have done what they did, Kenney should not have blocked their access. Whoever advised Kenney to do that should have been charged as an accomplice. This dispute was obvious to the entire community and they should have done something before it escalated to this point. Shame on Carmel Valley.
The murderer lied about giving up his guns, the murderer knew they were unarmed, the murderer set a trap (he knew that boulder would be a problem), the murderer shot them to death. Then he called 911 and didn't mention he had just gunned down his neighbors.

Carmel Valley didn't murder them, CV didn't shoot her in the back it was Kenney. Don't shame all of CV for the acts of a violent control freak.
Just Curious

Houston, TX

#13 Jul 1, 2010
Have the properties been sold?

Since: Sep 09

Carmel Valley, CA

#14 Jul 1, 2010
Just Curious wrote:
Have the properties been sold?
I think the Kenney property was deeded to his attorney to pay for his attorney's fees. I don't know what happened with the Grimes' property.
Valley resident

Marina, CA

#17 Oct 6, 2010
Look I have lived in the Valley for 26 years, and it is sickening to read some of the earlier comments. Carmel Valley is a beautiful town that has the problem of being inhabited mostly by uneducated construction workers. I know what I just said is cruel, but it is the truth. This trial followed a very clear and constitutional path, and a jury convicted him. An earlier post used so many argumentative fallacies to try and push away the fact that two people were killed. Who cares how mean they were, or how much pot the grimeses smoked. They were murdered by a man, who was tried and found guilty by a jury of peers. Done end of story.
vanessa312

United States

#19 Jan 9, 2011
The bottom line is that this man was clearly a control freak that couldn't stand the fact that he could not control the universe.
SomeFolksAreStup id

Dartmouth, Canada

#20 Jan 9, 2011
Wow. How conservative and tightassed is the person who tried to equate pot to being evil haha. And yes, he defended accused criminals. Criminals that have a right to fair legal council. Those who choose to be a defense attourney are not always evil. And just because he is good at it, that doesn't make him evil either. It's astounding to see the generational gap in the differences of opinions. I assume there is a genaration gap, only because the old fashioned sentiments by some who equate pot or bein a defence lawyer with evil are so outdated that I refuse to believe that anyone under the age of 45 would even think that small.
Sactofriend

Sacramento, CA

#22 Jan 18, 2011
TwoSides wrote:
There are two sides to every dispute and I believe Kenney was guilty of arrogance, a victim of bad advice, but not murder. While what happened to the Grimes was tragic, and that shot in the back is worrisome - I believe their culpability was downplayed. Kenney was harrassed, intimidated - should he have handled it by placing a giant boulder on the driveway? Clearly not. But there's guilt/culpability on both sides. The Grimes should not have done what they did, Kenney should not have blocked their access. Whoever advised Kenney to do that should have been charged as an accomplice. This dispute was obvious to the entire community and they should have done something before it escalated to this point. Shame on Carmel Valley.
Maybe Kenny was pushed but he, not the Grimes, chose to use a gun. He's guilty of Capital Murder and is lucky he got a life sentence. Now that he's shown the world we should be afraid of him, can we shoot him five times? According to his logic, yes. In fact, he's just a mean, controlling, self-righteous, and selfish person who has ruined the lives of his own children and neighborhood out of spite.
katabatic

Newport, RI

#23 Apr 25, 2011
I have a neighbor like Kenney. He calls himself 'the mayor' and annointed himself the spokesman of the neighborhood. he owns several guns, lets everyone know he has guns and then intimidates people into following his 'natural leadership'. He's another ex-military type. Seems to be part of the military profile.
Sharon

Fort Worth, TX

#24 Jun 15, 2011
I hope Kenney's appeal is denied and he rots in prison. He killed his neighbors in cold-blood and didn't even think twice about it! He has no remorse or compassion for the victims and their families. He is a selfish, cynical, vindictive being and the only ones I feel compassion for are his victims!

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