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California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#14485 Jan 12, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
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It did when we stopped alcohol prohibition. Why shouldn't this happens when we stop all medication prohibition?
Alchol didn't stop because of that. Kids who go to drugs would probably go to gangs anyway if illegal, it doesn't stop anything. No sources? Why is that?
Kippers

Monrovia, CA

#14486 Jan 12, 2013
That means like Piers Morgan, the goon that just will not go away.

Boy Cott CNN and it's sponsors until this union jack waver is gone.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#14487 Jan 12, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
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Bad drugs makes brain dead. Like alcohol and smoked tobacco, most legal antidepressant.
Good drugs are good for your health, like cannabis, salvia, mushrooms, etc.
Prohibition makes bad drugs legal, and good drugs illegal. It is normal, when health is nationalized, like with prohibition, the state loss money when the patient is cured. It is logic.
Legalize all drugs and tax them proportionally to the problem they cause, using standard correct statistical procedures. The public will quickly see the difference between bad and good drugs.
all illicit drugs make you brain dead, pal. when I see people taking illicit drugs in countries where the punishment for doing so is death, I know they are brain dead. I don't need any other confirmation.

illicit drugs are bad drugs. they make you believe you are above the law. you lose all logic.

this can be confirmed in countries all through the EU. how do you explain greece not being able to understand that you need to live within your means? brain dead.
Kippers

Monrovia, CA

#14488 Jan 12, 2013
This means Piers Morgan, the gooseStepper that just will not go away.

BoyCott CNN and it's sponsors until this union-jack waver is gone from american air waves.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14489 Jan 12, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
It has not.
It has too.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14490 Jan 12, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
It did when we stopped alcohol prohibition. Why shouldn't this happens when we stop all medication prohibition?
You should read the shyt you write when you are off of pot and shrooms or what ever you are on. Put down the bong, try to think for a moment.
Canned

Monrovia, CA

#14491 Jan 12, 2013
There must be some in pouches too?
Loppers

Monrovia, CA

#14493 Jan 12, 2013
Restaurant goers at Roberta's, a pizzeria in Bushwick, Brooklyn, got more than just their dinner this past weekend. Customers got an eyeful when they were being served by a naked waitress.

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20536629/waitres...
Loppers

Monrovia, CA

#14495 Jan 12, 2013
I'll try it again.

Only hard hats, gloves and shoes?
stone cold steve austin

United States

#14496 Jan 12, 2013
Nothing like a bud in the pipe and getting really stoned before work
BNfrankie

Monrovia, CA

#14497 Jan 12, 2013
Nothing is allowed here anymore.

You haven't paid your potection yet.
Bruno24

Belgium

#14498 Jan 13, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You should read the shyt you write when you are off of pot and shrooms or what ever you are on. Put down the bong, try to think for a moment.
I don't smoke pot, except when I am sick and then it is in a homeopathic way, and I take mushrooms once every two years. Your insinuation is misplaced and quasi-insulting. But I did study the prohibition since more than 30 years, and I have never seen the slightest evidence that drugs are problems, nor even that the term "drug" has any sense other than "product whose illegality enrich some minorities". The USA, in the domain of health is a kind of socialist paternalism which, actually, just hide a criminal way to govern a country. There are big drug problems, but they are due exclusively to the prohibition, like with alcohol.

Legalize cannabis, because it is just excellent for the health.
Legalize the dangerous drugs, because it is the *only* way to control them, and to protect the children, from them and from the criminals.

To forbid a plant is just total nonsense. By doing that, you are either purposefully working for the bandits, or you have a real problem with statistics and logic.

Prohibition and the war on drug is just the better way to make drugs spreading everywhere, without quality and price control. It benefits only to the criminals. There are tuns of studies on this. I did gave the references. You can go on the website of LEAP(*) to find a lot of them.

Just privatize health. For God and children's sake.

LEAP = Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. It is an organization by cops who are vets of the war on drugs, and who have a direct lived understanding of the complete nonsense and counter-productivity of the prohibition laws.
Nashed

Monrovia, CA

#14499 Jan 13, 2013
Ouch, Bruno 24..

Where are they going to get all the money to buy shinny nw toys with?
Klickles

Monrovia, CA

#14501 Jan 13, 2013
Look we have the out of towners, two handed phoo flingers back.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14502 Jan 13, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>

Legalize cannabis, because it is just excellent for the health.
Legalize the dangerous drugs, because it is the *only* way to control them, and to protect the children, from them and from the criminals.
LOL..you nuts dude. We made booze legal and how is that working out? They still drive drunk and cause deaths. Now you want all drugs legal? lol..you nuts. Why do you lie so much about pot? You make it sound like it's actually healthy for you. Do you have glaucoma?
Bruno24

Belgium

#14504 Jan 13, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>LOL..you nuts dude. We made booze legal and how is that working out? They still drive drunk and cause deaths. Now you want all drugs legal? lol..you nuts. Why do you lie so much about pot? You make it sound like it's actually healthy for you. Do you have glaucoma?
But since I use medical cannabis, that is about 45 years, my health budget has been reduced a lot. Cannabis was part of many medication since a long time. Around me, the user of cannabis are indeed in the average more healthy than the user of legal medication. I have stopped to have cold, I have cure in one week a sciatica, and, yes, I am overwhelmed by the benefits of cannabis. I have counted for a long time the number of diseases which can be cured with it, until I see on the net that such listing are known, and ignored, probably for fear by physicians and pharmacists to lose their job. I am not sure. In the USA even non psychedelic hemp has been made illegal, when it is actually a plant with many nutritive quality. Then I have followed closely the discoveries, made and remade of its highly promising help in the treatment of cancer.
So, well, yes, I believe that cannabis can be good for you. As any medication, some abuse can be problematic, but then, again, you have to compare with abuse of other drugs, like alcohol, tobacco, tranquilizers, and then you see that cannabis leads to a far less problematical form of abuse. Cannabis is not alone, in the quasi-miraculous medication. Salvia divinorum and Tabernanthe iboga are quite efficacious too, for a large variety of health problems, notably addiction to drugs (like alcoholism, tobacco abuse, heroin addiction, etc.). I don't want to discourage the synthetic pharmacology to continue to compete with nature, but not by unfair law propelled by greed. The government has no business to tell me what is good or bad for me and my family.
Largelanguage

Rhyl, UK

#14505 Jan 13, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't smoke pot, except when I am sick and then it is in a homeopathic way, and I take mushrooms once every two years. Your insinuation is misplaced and quasi-insulting. But I did study the prohibition since more than 30 years, and I have never seen the slightest evidence that drugs are problems, nor even that the term "drug" has any sense other than "product whose illegality enrich some minorities". The USA, in the domain of health is a kind of socialist paternalism which, actually, just hide a criminal way to govern a country. There are big drug problems, but they are due exclusively to the prohibition, like with alcohol.
Legalize cannabis, because it is just excellent for the health.
Legalize the dangerous drugs, because it is the *only* way to control them, and to protect the children, from them and from the criminals.
To forbid a plant is just total nonsense. By doing that, you are either purposefully working for the bandits, or you have a real problem with statistics and logic.
Prohibition and the war on drug is just the better way to make drugs spreading everywhere, without quality and price control. It benefits only to the criminals. There are tuns of studies on this. I did gave the references. You can go on the website of LEAP(*) to find a lot of them.
Just privatize health. For God and children's sake.
LEAP = Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. It is an organization by cops who are vets of the war on drugs, and who have a direct lived understanding of the complete nonsense and counter-productivity of the prohibition laws.
It doesn't lead to criminals to controlling a country. A kid who goes to gangs to get drugs would go to gangs anyway.
The Pilots Out

Santa Cruz, CA

#14506 Jan 13, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>LOL..you nuts dude. We made booze legal and how is that working out? They still drive drunk and cause deaths. Now you want all drugs legal? lol..you nuts. Why do you lie so much about pot? You make it sound like it's actually healthy for you. Do you have glaucoma?
Hey flamer- I suppose you are suggesting there was less danger and criminality when booze was illegal- freakin' moron?
If you ever had an intelligent though it would die of loneliness.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14507 Jan 13, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
But since I use medical cannabis, that is about 45 years, my health budget has been reduced a lot. Cannabis was part of many medication since a long time. Around me, the user of cannabis are indeed in the average more healthy than the user of legal medication. I have stopped to have cold, I have cure in one week a sciatica, and, yes, I am overwhelmed by the benefits of cannabis. I have counted for a long time the number of diseases which can be cured with it, until I see on the net that such listing are known, and ignored, probably for fear by physicians and pharmacists to lose their job. I am not sure. In the USA even non psychedelic hemp has been made illegal, when it is actually a plant with many nutritive quality. Then I have followed closely the discoveries, made and remade of its highly promising help in the treatment of cancer.
So, well, yes, I believe that cannabis can be good for you. As any medication, some abuse can be problematic, but then, again, you have to compare with abuse of other drugs, like alcohol, tobacco, tranquilizers, and then you see that cannabis leads to a far less problematical form of abuse. Cannabis is not alone, in the quasi-miraculous medication. Salvia divinorum and Tabernanthe iboga are quite efficacious too, for a large variety of health problems, notably addiction to drugs (like alcoholism, tobacco abuse, heroin addiction, etc.). I don't want to discourage the synthetic pharmacology to continue to compete with nature, but not by unfair law propelled by greed. The government has no business to tell me what is good or bad for me and my family.
Just admit you like the feeling of getting high, it's great for stress, but don't lie like it can cure all. You make it sound like it should be a vitamin. Stop reading high times so much.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14508 Jan 13, 2013
The Pilots Out wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey flamer- I suppose you are suggesting there was less danger and criminality when booze was illegal- freakin' moron?
If you ever had an intelligent though it would die of loneliness.
So you want to make cocaine and meth legal because we can't stop it anyway? You nuts too!

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