California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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TheftInc

La Puente, CA

#12738 Oct 17, 2012
Like a cancer, Athens Services are moving through the local governments of California and looking for the weak to pray upon and take their cities away from their city councils and residents.

The cities that have been left weak because of poor planning and investment planning by city managers and finance directors who are desperate to cover up the losses.

The weak ones are needing Athens Services like to help? "said the spider to the fly."

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

Jersey City, NJ

#12739 Oct 18, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
you don't expect anyone to just believe what you say, do you?
Why not? That's how the prohibition got started in the first place.
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12740 Oct 18, 2012
TheftInc wrote:
Like a cancer, Athens Services are moving through the local governments of California and looking for the weak to pray upon and take their cities away from their city councils and residents.
The cities that have been left weak because of poor planning and investment planning by city managers and finance directors who are desperate to cover up the losses.
The weak ones are needing Athens Services like to help? "said the spider to the fly."
see michigan. and govenor rick sneiders, emergency take over law...

they have removed that pesky 17th amendment and liquidated several cities that were having trouble.

he real scam was getting their hands on prime real estate (to make deals with their developer buddies, of course) which have little use for the actual resident of the commnities they are invading.
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12741 Oct 18, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
do you know what is really funny about how dumb liblosers are ?
they elect jerry brown to ruin the state
then jerry says"I need to raise the sales tax to ruin the state"
you watch
the liblosers will vote his tax increase down
get it ?
a bunch of morons the liblosers are
although I doubt you will answer me, with anything but a bunch of insults??

your post makes no sense...

if the libs are voting DOWN a proposal for increasing the sales tax??

isnt that GOOD??

or do you JUST NOT LIKE libs??, no matter what they do...

even Mark leno?? who ushered the 215 bill through??

215 wouldnt have happened without the democrats!

give them some credit.

you can go to a dispensary because of them!!
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12742 Oct 18, 2012
Troyboy80 wrote:
It's great reading from the losers and seeing them sat people don't get hurt over pot . Not even 15 minutes ago I read about some 37 year old that shot his 36 year old former roomate because he felt he shorted him out of some pot so he tried breaking into the house and take some of the plants but got caught lol stupid drug using losers .
prohibition creates crime and destroys lives, troy, not a plant.
Jillian Galloway

Chester, VA

#12743 Oct 18, 2012
Seventy years of prohibition is long enough to realize that it'll NEVER stop people smoking.

Unrelenting demand for LEGAL cannabis is far safer than unrelenting demand for ILLEGAL cannabis! Drug Dealers Don't Card, Supermarkets Do.
RiccardoFire

Wilton, CA

#12744 Oct 18, 2012
Jillian Galloway wrote:
Seventy years of prohibition is long enough to realize that it'll NEVER stop people smoking.
Unrelenting demand for LEGAL cannabis is far safer than unrelenting demand for ILLEGAL cannabis! Drug Dealers Don't Card, Supermarkets Do.
I favor the laws for medical use, not sure about recreational. Do you know if there is another country that has pot completely legal and how it's working?
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12745 Oct 19, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I favor the laws for medical use, not sure about recreational. Do you know if there is another country that has pot completely legal and how it's working?
I dont know of any country that is it compleatly legal.

but in the countries where it has been decriminalized??

usage rates are DOWN...

not a great arguement for continued prohibition!!
RiccardoFire

Wilton, CA

#12746 Oct 19, 2012
MITT RONIN wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont know of any country that is it compleatly legal.
but in the countries where it has been decriminalized??
usage rates are DOWN...
not a great arguement for continued prohibition!!
Then we have nothing to compare it with. Do you want usage down?
NoBlamer 2012

Burney, CA

#12747 Oct 20, 2012
MITT RONIN wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont know of any country that is it compleatly legal.
but in the countries where it has been decriminalized??
usage rates are DOWN...
not a great arguement for continued prohibition!!
since I wanted the idiot point of view,
I thought I would ask you.

why dont you support Gary Johnson ?

besides because you are too stupid and such a hypocrite.

try to keep your drivel under 20 lines

lol
Bruno24

Nil-saint-vincent, Belgium

#12749 Oct 20, 2012
The more a drug is prohibited, the more it is made available to the kids, the more it is consumed by the population, the more you will find nasty imitations worst than the original products.

This was predicted by some people before it has been applied, and is confirmed by the statistics available for many countries.

Prohibition is just a trick to make a market free of regulation and control.

Legalize all drugs, and tax them proportionally to their measurable social costs. Only this will provide the genuine information on the drugs. Only this will make it possible to limit the consumption of the younger one.
NoBlamer 2012

Burney, CA

#12750 Oct 20, 2012
[QUOTE who="???????"]is this vote i november fo legalizing weed only in california or is it all 50 states cause it is still just asillegal as always here in Wv where i live at[/QUOTE]
no

prop 19 was a calif initiative that failed

legalizing weed is a states rights issue

so your state has to legalize it

voting for ovomit is a vote to keep weed illegal because ovomit threatened to enforce federal laws against weed if calif legalized it.

even tho the feds dont have the power to prohiboit anything

think about it

why did it require an amendment to prohibit alcohol ?

the constitition does not give the federal government the power to prohibit anything

if you want to argue that,
point out where it does...

start here

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

this is what makes weed a states rights issue,
until you can point out where the constitution gives the feds the power
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12751 Oct 20, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Then we have nothing to compare it with. Do you want usage down?
just a hint??

out here in the educated world??

we generally first compare the united states to other industrialized democracies.

should people smoke less or more?? Im pretty ambivilant on the subject?
i want people to enjoy themselves using pot, the same way they do after work with beer.

I dont think pot should be just limited to patients....
as alcohol is perfectly legal, and pot should be as well, since it isnt as strong and not physically addictive, like booze and other over the counter medicines.

the drug war is 30 now....
and we spend 25 billion a year trying to curtail a market that just keeps growing and growing.

it is time for them to wave the white flag, and stop wasting our money.

tax it regulate it!!

just like booze, by the states themselves.
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12752 Oct 20, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
no
prop 19 was a calif initiative that failed
legalizing weed is a states rights issue
so your state has to legalize it
voting for ovomit is a vote to keep weed illegal because ovomit threatened to enforce federal laws against weed if calif legalized it.
even tho the feds dont have the power to prohiboit anything
think about it
why did it require an amendment to prohibit alcohol ?
the constitition does not give the federal government the power to prohibit anything
if you want to argue that,
point out where it does...
start here
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
this is what makes weed a states rights issue,
until you can point out where the constitution gives the feds the power
I think I explained this to you....

I dont vote for Just my self interest, just like you clowns do.

besides...?? this is JUST my medicine were talking about here, not armagheddon.

the larger issues facing the country demand my attention...

not my own little self interest...

you reputzlitards will never learn this.

then.....???

on all the other issues beyond empire? drug war and the fed??

gary emerges from the same small government, clown car as the rest of the pathetic feild...

i do respect him for being outspoken on the pot subject....

but I dont agree with him on more than about 20% of his platform...

with the president?? it is more like 60%.

some highlights of what I agree with Obama on??

fair pay for women.

no new wars.

ending the bush ones.

pro-choice?(is gary?)

pro-gay rights(ok obama has to be forced, but it isnt impossible to get him to move, as was demonstrated)

Obama is also, pro capital injection.... and
anti-tax cut for the wealthy.

at least now.

you may defend gary johnson( ceo, mitt ronin talking)
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12753 Oct 20, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
no
prop 19 was a calif initiative that failed
legalizing weed is a states rights issue
so your state has to legalize it
voting for ovomit is a vote to keep weed illegal because ovomit threatened to enforce federal laws against weed if calif legalized it.
even tho the feds dont have the power to prohiboit anything
think about it
why did it require an amendment to prohibit alcohol ?
the constitition does not give the federal government the power to prohibit anything
if you want to argue that,
point out where it does...
start here
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
this is what makes weed a states rights issue,
until you can point out where the constitution gives the feds the power
thanks for posting the tenth amendment....

more proof(to your own admission) that you read a little fast.(sarc)

I wish all the presidents had the federal gov. proceeding strickly by the constiution.

what youd have enforced by them?? and what id use them for are no doubt, very different things

for me?? it would be voting rights and federal environmental laws. yes id put those in the constitution..

for you gary supporters??

dunno.??

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#12754 Oct 20, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I favor the laws for medical use, not sure about recreational. Do you know if there is another country that has pot completely legal and how it's working?
In California it's all but legal. Any adult can walk into the office of a "pot doc" they have never seen before and for around $40 get a letter of recommendation for the use of pot. There are more pot shops in LA than Starbucks. http://www.potlocator.com/
RiccardoFire

Wilton, CA

#12755 Oct 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
In California it's all but legal. Any adult can walk into the office of a "pot doc" they have never seen before and for around $40 get a letter of recommendation for the use of pot. There are more pot shops in LA than Starbucks. http://www.potlocator.com/
That doesn't address my comment. There is a difference between buying it at a local quick shop where the government doesn't know you bought it from big brother knowing every purchase at a pot doc shop.
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12756 Oct 20, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
The more a drug is prohibited, the more it is made available to the kids, the more it is consumed by the population, the more you will find nasty imitations worst than the original products.
This was predicted by some people before it has been applied, and is confirmed by the statistics available for many countries.
Prohibition is just a trick to make a market free of regulation and control.
Legalize all drugs, and tax them proportionally to their measurable social costs. Only this will provide the genuine information on the drugs. Only this will make it possible to limit the consumption of the younger one.
if we did as you suggest??

the taxes would remain sky high on alcohol and tobacco...

weed, not so much.

yet, some counties here in california, have decided they will try to collect a tax of up to 5% on local dispensaries......most times it is closer to 1 or 2 %. good for them.

this is about the only taxation that has occured, at the local and county level.
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12758 Oct 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
In California it's all but legal. Any adult can walk into the office of a "pot doc" they have never seen before and for around $40 get a letter of recommendation for the use of pot. There are more pot shops in LA than Starbucks. http://www.potlocator.com/
good.....
now go back to garmin and tell me how many pharmacies there are in california....

and then how many places to get coffee(in addition to starbucks)

and how many places to purchase alcohol.

ill bet you the number of cannabis dispensaries are on the bottom of that list, by far...
MITT RONIN

Anderson, CA

#12759 Oct 20, 2012
[QUOTE who="???????"]is this vote i november fo legalizing weed only in california or is it all 50 states cause it is still just asillegal as always here in Wv where i live at[/QUOTE]

ive got my ballot from the county....

there are no state level initiatives on the ballot this fall in california to legalize pot......that was tried in 10'(prop 19) and it failed by about 8 points....

washington state has I-502 on the ballot, and it looks like it will pass..

this will legalize state run pot shops.....much like some states have state liquor stores that are the only place you can buy hard booze.(like NH) the state sold kind bud will be grown by state licenced, contracted growers. I can imagine only several dozen outlets....
as compared to several thousand here in the golden state.

you will need only an governemnt issued photo Id, and be at least 21, just like with alcohol!!!

it is about time!!!

good for washington....

the man who the state is named after would be proud!

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