Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,318

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Poof

Cambridge, IL

#220090 Oct 5, 2013
Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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Honorary Lesbian!
Yes I am, thanks

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#220091 Oct 5, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I am, thanks
Congratulations because the men
don't acknowledge your shiet
Lack of personality.....
Tuurdords

Azusa, CA

#220092 Oct 5, 2013

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#220093 Oct 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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No but one can vote on how a significant social, cultural, historical, and/or religious institution, is legally defined. Last I knew the civil right to marry was based on the male female understanding of marriage and applied to all men and women equally. I guess your point it, some are more equal than others.
Why do you deliberately try to invert the simple facts?

Yes, a religion gets to determine for itself who qualifies to use that religion as a basis for any religious ritual. But your church does NOT get to define any of that for my church, and vice versa.

Beyond that, people DO NOT get to vote away the civil rights of others.

And no, the civil right to marry is based on two people forming a union that involves numerous rights and privilages that are not available in other manner. The gender of those people is of no concern of yours.
Pietro Armando wrote:
So if a state votes in favor of SSM and someone sued to have it overturned in court, and the court agreed, would you support that? Or is it only you agree when the vote is in favor of an issue you support?
If the courts attempt to take away any person's or group's civil rights, there must be a COMPELLING state intrest in so doing. Compelling as in - others will be injured in some demonstable manner. If the courts operate in any other manner, they are guilty of judicial malfesiance.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#220094 Oct 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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One does not need the state to "form stable, committed partnerships". No one is demanding gays not marry, or marry. It's a matter of what marriage is, and why it's defined they way it is.
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No, one does not need state recognition to form a committed relationship, but one DOES need state recognition to gain the rights and privileges that are automatically part of the committed relationship called "marriage". Now, I can certainly agree that it IS a matter of the way marriage is defined. As I said above, your church gets to define its rituals in whatever manner it chooses. However, when it comes to the government, ALL citizens MUST be given equal access to the laws, rights and privileges of our society, because that is what our Constitution demands.
drink The hive

New York, NY

#220095 Oct 5, 2013
God Bless U All And I Hope U Receive The Help U Need 2 Turn Away From Your Live' Of Sin - Amen...

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“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#220096 Oct 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Gays, as individual men and women, have the same right to marry,as nay other man or woman.
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So who's lying here? The same right has always existed. There are some who do not wish to exercise it the same way, as any other man or woman.
The only one lying here is you. Yet again. It is getting rather tiresome.

I have the right to marry the person that I love and for whom I feel a sexual attraction. Love does not even need to be a part of it. I can marry anyone I choose, as long as we are both consenting adults, etc, etc, etc.

Until the state starts telling people who they will marry, based on breeding concerns, the state MUST allow ALL citizens the right to pick the person that they wish. Gender is NOT a valid grounds for discrimination.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#220097 Oct 5, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
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Ok I assume you are gay, now don't you lie, where in the consitution does it say you can not marry?
Minor point, but I am straight...

Major point, the Constitution REQUIRES that ALL people have equal access to the laws of the land. Since marriage is part of that body of laws, gays must have the right to marry just like straights do - and that includes the person of their choice.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#220099 Oct 5, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I am, thanks
You might as well be!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#220100 Oct 5, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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The only one lying here is you. Yet again. It is getting rather tiresome.
I have the right to marry the person that I love and for whom I feel a sexual attraction. Love does not even need to be a part of it. I can marry anyone I choose, as long as we are both consenting adults, etc, etc, etc.
You can marry a few women if they'll have you, and the state not need be involved. However if you wish to legally marry, you must abide by the state rules, and requirements.
Until the state starts telling people who they will marry, based on breeding concerns, the state MUST allow ALL citizens the right to pick the person that they wish.
Oh so you can marry your sister?
Gender is NOT a valid grounds for discrimination.
Exactly, no legally sanctioned gender segregation in marriage. Insist on both genders being included.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#220101 Oct 5, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Minor point, but I am straight...
Major point, the Constitution REQUIRES that ALL people have equal access to the laws of the land.
Please show where in the constitution those words exist.
Since marriage is part of that body of laws, gays must have the right to marry just like straights do - and that includes the person of their choice.
Of the opposite sex.....just....like....straig hts! See equal access to the laws of the land.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#220102 Oct 5, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Why do you deliberately try to invert the simple facts?
I ask you the same.
Yes, a religion gets to determine for itself who qualifies to use that religion as a basis for any religious ritual. But your church does NOT get to define any of that for my church, and vice versa.
Beyond that, people DO NOT get to vote away the civil rights of others.
Did you actually read what I wrote AND understand it?
Pietro Armando wrote:
No but one can vote on how a significant social, cultural, historical, and/or religious institution, is legally defined. Last I knew the civil right to marry was based on the male female understanding of marriage and applied to all men and women equally.
And no, the civil right to marry is based on two people forming a union that involves numerous rights and privilages that are not available in other manner.
That's so clever....did you think that up yourself?
. The gender of those people is of no concern of yours.
It is to the state if those people choose to legally marry, and to the people who voted on what definition of legal marriage should either be maintained, or replaced.
If the courts attempt to take away any person's or group's civil rights, there must be a COMPELLING state intrest in so doing. Compelling as in - others will be injured in some demonstable manner. If the courts operate in any other manner, they are guilty of judicial malfesiance.
Helllllooooooo.....McFly...no civil right was taken away. The right to marry, enter into a legally recognized union of husband and wife, valid on all fifty states, is available to ALL MEN AND WOMEN.
120 or DC 240

Azusa, CA

#220103 Oct 5, 2013
Remember, the Republicans, GOP, RNC and the Tea Party member's use the same sex machine over and over again, that's how they get use to screwing the public over and over again.
Testing

Salem, OR

#220104 Oct 6, 2013
Just a toss up
Gustavo

Highland, CA

#220105 Oct 6, 2013
Ban GOP wrote:
Republicans need to stop hurting our country because they are in a bizarre state of denial over the Affordable Care Act, also know as Obamacare. As they stamp their feet and rant, millions of Americans have started the process of finally obtaining health insurance -- but the government is in a massive shutdown.
Neither of the two parties knows much about anything, they both suck and are bad for this country. Obammy and his brown nosers don't know any more about the plan than any one else and they wrote it. Have you seen the application? they have designated deferent levels of coverage, it's not a blanket affordable plan for America as they sold it to be, even the poor, who this plan was custome made for will have to qualify. Why do you think the politicians themselves wont use this plan, because it has too many qualifing demands and they want to continue see the doctors of their choice. So in this case the Demos will be holding Americans as hostage once again the Republicans are only trying to prevent that in this case.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#220106 Oct 6, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
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Neither of the two parties knows much about anything, they both suck and are bad for this country. Obammy and his brown nosers don't know any more about the plan than any one else and they wrote it. Have you seen the application? they have designated deferent levels of coverage, it's not a blanket affordable plan for America as they sold it to be, even the poor, who this plan was custome made for will have to qualify. Why do you think the politicians themselves wont use this plan, because it has too many qualifing demands and they want to continue see the doctors of their choice. So in this case the Demos will be holding Americans as hostage once again the Republicans are only trying to prevent that in this case.
REad the opinion piece in the Wall STreet Journal this weekend on the default situation.
Gustavo

Highland, CA

#220107 Oct 6, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Why do you deliberately try to invert the simple facts?
Yes, a religion gets to determine for itself who qualifies to use that religion as a basis for any religious ritual. But your church does NOT get to define any of that for my church, and vice versa.
Beyond that, people DO NOT get to vote away the civil rights of others.
And no, the civil right to marry is based on two people forming a union that involves numerous rights and privilages that are not available in other manner. The gender of those people is of no concern of yours.
<quoted text>
If the courts attempt to take away any person's or group's civil rights, there must be a COMPELLING state intrest in so doing. Compelling as in - others will be injured in some demonstable manner. If the courts operate in any other manner, they are guilty of judicial malfesiance.
Quit picking on the constitution. I works for evryone even you gay people, if you are a human you have the same damn rights so please STFU your cult has created enough problems and fighting among us ... lets not upset the apple cart. what part of the Const. says you can't marry I've got to know? that is what you are crying about right?
Cluck Nuggets

Azusa, CA

#220109 Oct 6, 2013
Chicken Mac Nuggets contain: about half muscle, with the rest a mix of fat, blood vessels and nerves.

Close inspection revealed cells that line the skin and internal organs of the bird.

Everything else from a chicken but the cluck.

They are NOW off the food choice list!
Gustavo

Highland, CA

#220110 Oct 6, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Minor point, but I am straight...
Major point, the Constitution REQUIRES that ALL people have equal access to the laws of the land. Since marriage is part of that body of laws, gays must have the right to marry just like straights do - and that includes the person of their choice.
Ok fine. Marry the person of their choice in this case means of any origin, ethnisity, color, or race. Gays have that right too. I think what the cult really wants is to do is make an amendment to the constiution to add the words SS. In that case the American people should have the right to VOTE on such an amendment, put it to the CITIZENS of this nation. Would you agree to that? let the chip fall as they may done deal no more crying
Gustavo

Highland, CA

#220111 Oct 6, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I ask you the same.
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Did you actually read what I wrote AND understand it?
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That's so clever....did you think that up yourself?
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It is to the state if those people choose to legally marry, and to the people who voted on what definition of legal marriage should either be maintained, or replaced.
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Helllllooooooo.....McFly...no civil right was taken away. The right to marry, enter into a legally recognized union of husband and wife, valid on all fifty states, is available to ALL MEN AND WOMEN.
The only way to end this arguement is to add into the constitution "and SS people".

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