Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#214454 Sep 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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In his "End" eh? Calm down loverboy! Geez. YUK!YUK!YUK!
In case you haven't noticed, "In the End" is the name of his recent poem about his definition of marriage. It heavily features "Venus and Mars" to bolster his claim. By the way, Venus and Mars were gods who had an affair--out of which they produced an offspring. Venus was married to Vulcan at the time.

So "In the End" he's a moron...

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#214455 Sep 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Queen, when have I not responded to my favorite gay twirler?
Butch lesbians dress and act like men because they feel like men. That is why they are described as butch.
Moreover, you are denying mating behavior, because you know in this case it is highly dysfunctional.
You are avoiding the question, just like you always do.
I feel it is necessary to expose your idiotic gay twirl.
You know, 50 or 60 years ago people would be looking at many of the women today and thinking that they're trying to be men. They go out and find a career away from home. They wear pants. They are single parents. They're very independent.

How someone dresses doesn't define their attractions. Just because you have made the unscientific conclusion that "lesbian dress like men to attract other women" doesn't mean it holds water.

"In the End" you continue to show your "end".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214456 Sep 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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...I would turn her in myself...
Of that we have no doubt. You'd do it joyfully, with a big boner!
Steve

Paradise, CA

#214457 Sep 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Maybe lesbians dress to please themselves. When I get up in the morning I don't rush to the closet to see what outfit I can put on that will attract other gay men. Do you get up in the morning with the intention of attracting other women?
Most people put on the clothes and fix themselves up based on what makes them feel comfortable.
And lesbians don't "act like a man". They act like "lesbians".
I know you won't acknowledge this because all you're interested in is tearing people down.
I just feel it's necessary to expose your stupidity.
"And lesbians don't "act like a man". They act like "lesbians". Act like this act like that, a lotta acting going on. Men are men and women are women, most of the time.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#214458 Sep 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I agree, we don’t want the Quran, or the Bagividad Gita or any scriptures taught in our schools.
She should be in trouble, I would turn her in myself.
I wish they could understand that it is as offensive to me as teaching the Quran would be to them being taught to their children in school, no difference.
People are free to believe if they choose to, any religion they choose, but we are not teaching any religion to our children from a position of authority like a teacher or a public school
Imagine the public school children in St. Paul Minnesota,, or St. Louis, or Corpus Christi, turning in money for a field trip, money that has the words "In God We Trust" on it, while watching the inauguration of a new president as s/he sworn in with his/her hand on a bible, as s/he utters "So help me God". Lets not forget the teacher is a fan of the New Orleans Saints, and has one of their pennants on the wall. We wouldn't want that to happen, those poor children exposed to all that religious reference. Oh the hum airy
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214459 Sep 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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In case you haven't noticed, "In the End" is the name of his recent poem about his definition of marriage. It heavily features "Venus and Mars" to bolster his claim. By the way, Venus and Mars were gods who had an affair--out of which they produced an offspring. Venus was married to Vulcan at the time.
So "In the End" he's a moron...
Calm down power trooper. In the end Topix is dumb.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#214461 Sep 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Sent him packing. Heard it on NPR on the anniversary.
Never the less, MLK never would have gone for calling SS couples married.
You know that.
it doesn't appeat that MLK sent him packing, particularly if you look at the time line of his life. there's no mention of it in either MLK or in his bio in the link I gave you. or in any link i can find via google.

unlike yourself, i don't speak for others. you can't possibly know what someone else thinks feels or believes unless they say it outright.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16/what...

"Yet King would have been a champion of gay rights today because of his view of Christianity, says Michael Long, author of,“I Must Resist: Bayard Rustin’s Life in Letters,” who shared the story of King’s Ebony letter.

“Dr. King never publicly welcomed gays at the front gate of his beloved community. But he did leave behind a key for them - his belief that each person is sacred, free and equal to all to others,” says Long, also author of the upcoming “Keeping it straight? Martin Luther King, Jr., Homosexuality, and Gay Rights.”

Did King’s dream include gay people?

Coretta Scott King, was a vocal supporter of gay rights. One of her closest aides was gay. She also invoked her husband’s dream.

Ravi Perry, a political science professor at Clark University in Worcester, Massachusetts, said King’s widow once said in a public speech that everyone who believed in her husband’s dream should “make room at the table of brother and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people.”

There is no private or public record of King condemning gay people, Perry says. Even the FBI’s surveillance of King’s private phone conversations didn’t turn up any moment where King disparaged gay people, she says.

“If Dr. King were anti-gay, there would likely be a sermon, a speech, a recording of some kind indicating such,” she says.“And knowing how closely his phones were tapped; surely there would be a record of such statements.”

Those who say King did not condemn gays and would have supported gay rights today point to King’s theology.

Though King was a Christian minister, he didn’t embrace a literal reading of the Bible that condemns homosexuality, some historians say. King’s vision of the Beloved Community – his biblical-rooted vision of humanity transcending its racial and religious differences – expanded people’s rights, not restricted them, they say.

Rev. C.T. Vivian, who worked with King at the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, says King would have championed gay rights today.

“Martin was a theologian,” Vivian says.“Martin starts with the fact that God loves everybody, and all men and all women were created by God. He based his whole philosophy on God’s love for all people.”
Fuzzed Out

Monrovia, CA

#214462 Sep 5, 2013
Just to many smurfs posting today?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214463 Sep 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Imagine the public school children in St. Paul Minnesota,, or St. Louis, or Corpus Christi, turning in money for a field trip, money that has the words "In God We Trust" on it, while watching the inauguration of a new president as s/he sworn in with his/her hand on a bible, as s/he utters "So help me God". Lets not forget the teacher is a fan of the New Orleans Saints, and has one of their pennants on the wall. We wouldn't want that to happen, those poor children exposed to all that religious reference. Oh the hum airy
Famous ancient books BAD!!

The book "Johnny has two daddies" GOOD!!

It's a simple concept really. Big D knows whats best for our children.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#214464 Sep 5, 2013
sorry for the double posting.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#214465 Sep 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Imagine the public school children in St. Paul Minnesota,, or St. Louis, or Corpus Christi, turning in money for a field trip, money that has the words "In God We Trust" on it, while watching the inauguration of a new president as s/he sworn in with his/her hand on a bible, as s/he utters "So help me God". Lets not forget the teacher is a fan of the New Orleans Saints, and has one of their pennants on the wall. We wouldn't want that to happen, those poor children exposed to all that religious reference. Oh the hum airy
But the words In God We Trust doesn't mean a specific God, the whole point was that Suzanne/debsueallen was posting that she was banned from public schools for pushing a certain type of religion to be taught as the truth. That's illegal. That's why she was banned.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214466 Sep 5, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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it doesn't appeat that MLK sent him packing, particularly if you look at the time line of his life. there's no mention of it in either MLK or in his bio in the link I gave you. or in any link i can find via google.
unlike yourself, i don't speak for others. you can't possibly know what someone else thinks feels or believes unless they say it outright.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16/what...
"Yet King would have been a champion of gay rights today because of his view of Christianity, says Michael Long, author of,“I Must Resist: Bayard Rustin’s Life in Letters,” who shared the story of King’s Ebony letter.
“Dr. King never publicly welcomed gays at the front gate of his beloved community. But he did leave behind a key for them - his belief that each person is sacred, free and equal to all to others,” says Long, also author of the upcoming “Keeping it straight? Martin Luther King, Jr., Homosexuality, and Gay Rights.”
Did King’s dream include gay people?
One person close to King, though, would disagree.
Rev. Bernice King led a march to her father’s graveside in 2005 while calling for a constitutional ban on gay marriage. She was joined by Bishop Eddie Long, senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Church in Georgia, where she served as an elder at the time. Long, who recently settled out of court with four young men who filed lawsuits claiming he coerced them into sexual relationships, publicly condemned homosexuality.
King did not answer an interview request, but she has spoken publicly about her views.
During a speech at a church meeting in New Zealand, she said her father “did not take a bullet for same-sex marriage.”
Yet her mother, Coretta Scott King, was a vocal supporter of gay rights. One of her closest aides was gay. She also invoked her husband’s dream.
Ravi Perry, a political science professor at Clark University in Worcester, Massachusetts, said King’s widow once said in a public speech that everyone who believed in her husband’s dream should “make room at the table of brother and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people.”
There is no private or public record of King condemning gay people, Perry says. Even the FBI’s surveillance of King’s private phone conversations didn’t turn up any moment where King disparaged gay people, she says.
“If Dr. King were anti-gay, there would likely be a sermon, a speech, a recording of some kind indicating such,” she says.“And knowing how closely his phones were tapped; surely there would be a record of such statements.”
Those who say King did not condemn gays and would have supported gay rights today point to King’s theology.
Though King was a Christian minister, he didn’t embrace a literal reading of the Bible that condemns homosexuality, some historians say. King’s vision of the Beloved Community – his biblical-rooted vision of humanity transcending its racial and religious differences – expanded people’s rights, not restricted them, they say.
Rev. C.T. Vivian, who worked with King at the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, says King would have championed gay rights today.
“Martin was a theologian,” Vivian says.“Martin starts with the fact that God loves everybody, and all men and all women were created by God. He based his whole philosophy on God’s love for all people.”
Again, you confuse and ignore the difference between equal rights and equating an imposter relationship with marriage.

They are distinct theologically.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#214467 Sep 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Imagine the public school children in St. Paul Minnesota,, or St. Louis, or Corpus Christi, turning in money for a field trip, money that has the words "In God We Trust" on it, while watching the inauguration of a new president as s/he sworn in with his/her hand on a bible, as s/he utters "So help me God". Lets not forget the teacher is a fan of the New Orleans Saints, and has one of their pennants on the wall. We wouldn't want that to happen, those poor children exposed to all that religious reference. Oh the hum airy
Now imagine your children in school being taught the Quran, or the Bagavidad Gita, perhaps being told to kneel on prayer mats facing mecca 5 times a day in praise to Allah

I don’t have a problem with them being taught the history of "In God We trust" on our money that was not put there by our founders at all, or even the reason that was put on our money, the history of it is fine, I don’t have a problem with a discussion about "under God" and how that was added in the 1950's to our pledge of allegiance against the wishes of the descendants of Francis Bellamy who wrote the pledge in 1892 specifically without that phrase in it.

I don’t mind the history being taught, but if you teach the religion itself, you are opening the door to any and all religions being taught, giving FSM equal time as well
:)
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#214468 Sep 5, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Well, we live in a democracy and I vote FOR Full Homosexualization of ALL 50 states !:)
<s>
Your ignorance is showing.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214469 Sep 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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You know, 50 or 60 years ago people would be looking at many of the women today and thinking that they're trying to be men. They go out and find a career away from home. They wear pants. They are single parents. They're very independent.
How someone dresses doesn't define their attractions. Just because you have made the unscientific conclusion that "lesbian dress like men to attract other women" doesn't mean it holds water.
"In the End" you continue to show your "end".
I made no conclusions.

Sexuality is a sliding continuum. Butch lesbians are the closest to transgendered men with a woman's body.

Being a queen, you fall in that same continuum as nearer a woman in a man's body.
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#214470 Sep 5, 2013
Huh wrote:
Some people act like children and spew nasty crap because they know they have nothing else.
By the way Frankie Rizzo is a baby killing crippled Vietnam war monger. What he says is worthless.
A fine example of an imbicile that knows nothing, spewing nasty crap. Thanks for the example duh.
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#214471 Sep 5, 2013
Steve wrote:
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"what would you call a marriage of a self professed "straight" man, and a self professed "lesbian" woman, or a "bisexual" woman? "
Why do we have to call it something at all ?
You would support it but that's why you're so f'n moronic. A marriage 'real marriage' is a union of two people (man and woman) with a common desire to support and compliment each other. How would a straight man and a lesbian be supportive or complimentary of each other? Of course in your tiny mind you would think 'any' two beings should be able to 'marry'. Moron.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#214473 Sep 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Again, you confuse and ignore the difference between equal rights and equating an imposter relationship with marriage.
They are distinct theologically.
but we're not talking theologically here.

the issues are about the law.

you're the one making assumptions about MLK chum.
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#214474 Sep 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Famous ancient books BAD!!
The book "Johnny has two daddies" GOOD!!
It's a simple concept really. Big D knows whats best for our children.
Don't do that, V.V. can't tell when you're kidding or not.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214476 Sep 5, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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but we're not talking theologically here.
the issues are about the law.
you're the one making assumptions about MLK chum.
You are the who asserted what MLK would do.

MLK would root his decisions theologically, so we are talking theologically.

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