Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,189

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#214386 Sep 4, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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And her own daughter disputes that view, as her father would too.
Maintaining marriage as it has been historically and cross culturally is 'gay bashing'???
MLK was too smart to make such a stupid statement.
Sometimes it helps to do a bit of Goggling before making a fool of yourself...

"Bernice King, who has a long anti-gay past, took the stage yesterday at Atlanta’s annual Martin Luther King Jr. rally and included gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people among the various groups she said need to come together to fulfill her father’s legacy.

In a passionate, sermon-like speech about building unity, King said she didn’t care if people were Hindu, Buddhist, Islamist, were from the North side or the South side, were black or white, were “gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender”— that all people were needed to create unity."

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Seems as though she's had a change of heart regarding her views on rights for homosexuals.
Raphs close another store

Monrovia, CA

#214387 Sep 4, 2013
Another Ralphs Grocery store has closed it's doors forever. This one was located at 1005 E. Arrow Highway San Dimas, California.

It is quit possible a Ralphs located on Grand Avenue in Glendora, California might suffer the same fate as the San Dimas store?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#214390 Sep 4, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Sometimes it helps to do a bit of Goggling before making a fool of yourself...
"Bernice King, who has a long anti-gay past, took the stage yesterday at Atlanta’s annual Martin Luther King Jr. rally and included gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people among the various groups she said need to come together to fulfill her father’s legacy.
In a passionate, sermon-like speech about building unity, King said she didn’t care if people were Hindu, Buddhist, Islamist, were from the North side or the South side, were black or white, were “gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender”— that all people were needed to create unity."
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Seems as though she's had a change of heart regarding her views on rights for homosexuals.
Dang VV, you keep spinning.

Where does that say she supports ss couples being called married?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#214395 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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Your commentaries regarding marriage in regards to both heterosexual marriage and those involving gays was based on opinion. If you disagree then please, provide proof of such.
I never backtracked in here. Again, if you disagree provide proof otherwise it's a baseless claim if not a lie.
Which opinion(s) do you need me to "back up"?
Calm down, you're turning into a dizzy blonde.

You said this was all opinion;

Marriage is a miraculous union of two genders,
a union so profound,
it is described as the union of Mars and Venus.
It reunites humanity to the roots of life,
while at the very same time
hosting the best and natural
birth place of future human life.
It is the blend of masculinity and femininity.
The wisdom of logic and intuition united.
Strength and delicacy perfectly balanced.
Protection and nurture combined as one.
A complimentary merging that multiplies the unbiased blend of humanity's genders.

A ss couple cannot equate to a single one of these distinctions.

Please be specific, which ones are opinion and why.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#214396 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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1.) No. I checked again. Brains don't have wrists let alone limp ones.
2.) If your argument skills are equivalent to just being a smartass then in turn that's all you amount to....a smartass.
Sorry....but you appear to either be a drunkard or a registered troll whose only intend is to provide baseless discourse in here.
I'm a near senile old jackass.

I also am a redeemed cynic who remains a barbarian.

I enjoy sinking the knife of reality into the belly of denial to the hilt and twisting it with a smirk.

I am committed to kick at the darkness until it bleeds light.

I also am a genetic chimera AND a hermaphrodite. literally a lesbian trapped in a straight man.

Smile.
Republican failed again

Monrovia, CA

#214399 Sep 4, 2013
A male founder of a hedge fund with more than $3.2 billion under management was arrested in a police sting operation to crack down on prostitution in a small Oregon town.
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#214400 Sep 4, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Sent him packing. Heard it on NPR on the anniversary.
Never the less, MLK never would have gone for calling SS couples married.
You know that.
Nope we don't that. I think he'd be quick to throw you and you're BS under the bus.
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#214401 Sep 4, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm a near senile old jackass.
I also am a redeemed cynic who remains a barbarian.
I enjoy sinking the knife of reality into the belly of denial to the hilt and twisting it with a smirk.
I am committed to kick at the darkness until it bleeds light.
I also am a genetic chimera AND a hermaphrodite. literally a lesbian trapped in a straight man.
Smile.
Once again, we all have to know what your problems are..BTW I don't think you can be both a genetic chimera AND a hermaphrodite, unless you suck it up and fold it in.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#214407 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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It's all an opinion. You believe heterosexual couples are "better" for lack of another word than gay couples for such poetic and fanciful thoughts such as "a union so profound".
LOL!!!
Jesus H Christ - you have an opinion heterosexual marriages trump gay unions. We got it already but there's not a shred of factual evidence in that tangled mess you keep regurgitating so if you've got nothing else just sit down and shut up because your turn is over sister.
Here's a fact - more and more states are recognizing gay marriage represents a right to it's citizens and have since been legalizing it.
Kimare pulls shit out of his ass all the time and calls it fact. i have caught him out dong this many, many times. he just runs away and pretends he never did it...

trying to have a rational debate with him using facts is pointless.

he will stick with his prejudicial bigotry till he dies...
Anonymous

Nags Head, NC

#214408 Sep 4, 2013
Go go

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214409 Sep 4, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Isn't that interesting? You're now the mouthpiece for Dr. King...
Coretta Scott King made the following comments in 2004 as the right-wing zealots tried to bring about a Constitutional Amendment that would have made same-sex marriage illegal: "Gay and lesbian people have families, and their families should have legal protection, whether by marriage or civil union. A constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages is a form of gay bashing and it would do nothing at all to protect traditional marriages."
So, who should we believe? You? Or the woman who was married to Dr. King?
Does she feel the same about polygamist too? They also have families, and all those state constitution amendments defining marriage as a union of ONE man and ONE woman, could be considered a form of poly bashing.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214411 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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Your commentaries regarding marriage in regards to both heterosexual marriage and those involving gays was based on opinion. If you disagree then please, provide proof of such.
I never backtracked in here. Again, if you disagree provide proof otherwise it's a baseless claim if not a lie.
Which opinion(s) do you need me to "back up"?
It's not "heterosexual marriage", but rather conjugal, as in husband and wife, marriage. Sexual identity labels are irrelevant. Besides what would you call a marriage of a self professed "straight" man, and a self professed "lesbian" woman, or a "bisexual" woman?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214412 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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And WTF is this?????
"Mutually sterile"?? Are you to claim gays pursuing marriage are sterile??
Hardly. Their makeup is the same as heterosexuals in that they are able to either fertilize a member of the opposite sex if male or to be fertilized by a male as a female if they so wish.
"Duplicate gendered"??? Is that like calling a 12 ounce can of Coca-Cola a "carbonated cylindrical shaped aluminum skinned container of a sweetened beverage".
I'll stick with a can of Coke and the term of gay couples.
And "half marriage".- Either you're a married couple of your single. Some guy holding a bouquet of flowers wearing a tux while standing next to a limo in front of a church while a pastor waits inside all the while thinking some stranger will pass by at some point in time, fall in love and make him "fully married" still makes no sense to this fabricated term of "half married".
Their make up,is the same if the "gay" couple is of the opposite sex. A man and a woman, regardless of sexual identity labels, are still a man and a woman.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214414 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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Same sexed couples can get married in a number of states with more allowing them to do so yes, in many cases same sexed couples are already married with more doing so. Not sure of your direction when you state "...do not equate to marriage.".
Being treated on fair basis is exactly what gay couples are demanding when it comes to marriage. They want fair treatment when wanting to marry the person of their choice in comparison to heterosexual couples whom are allowed to do so. Therefore you are incorrect in your statement. Fair treatment is the issue at hand.
And no. It is not difficult.
Men and women are allowed to marriage each other because marriage in American jurisprudence is understood to be a conjugal union. All men, and all women, have the same right to marry, enter into a legally recognized union of husband and wife, valid in all fifty states. There's no compelling state interest in treating some men, and some women, different than most men, and women. Equal treatment is just that.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#214417 Sep 4, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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It's not "heterosexual marriage", but rather conjugal, as in husband and wife, marriage. Sexual identity labels are irrelevant. Besides what would you call a marriage of a self professed "straight" man, and a self professed "lesbian" woman, or a "bisexual" woman?
still lying openly about that, huh? why? conjugal marriage also includes same sex marriages.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214419 Sep 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>still lying openly about that, huh? why? conjugal marriage also includes same sex marriages.
And "lesbians" can be men......right Woody?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#214420 Sep 4, 2013
Cats with glasses wrote:
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Some men have married bi-sexual women and seem to be comfortable with it. It's their business.
As far as a strict lesbian marrying a straight man it's happened. Usually does not work out given she loses sexual interest in him and from what I've seen it's a matter of her "coming out" while in the marriage.
So how would that marriage be describe in terms of sexual identity labels?
Marriage between those of the same sex involves sex between the parties involved as well, don't forget that little tidbit of factual knowledge.
Sexual yes, sex no. Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#214421 Sep 4, 2013
debsuelyn wrote:
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In this country now, Scripture is being thrown out of schools, some churches ( I use to attend one & had to leave because they did not believe in the Old Testament)
When was Scripture ever part of schools? What Church was that? Why would you attend a church like that?
Steve

Paradise, CA

#214426 Sep 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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It's not "heterosexual marriage", but rather conjugal, as in husband and wife, marriage. Sexual identity labels are irrelevant. Besides what would you call a marriage of a self professed "straight" man, and a self professed "lesbian" woman, or a "bisexual" woman?
"what would you call a marriage of a self professed "straight" man, and a self professed "lesbian" woman, or a "bisexual" woman? "
Why do we have to call it something at all ?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#214428 Sep 5, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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Once again, we all have to know what your problems are..BTW I don't think you can be both a genetic chimera AND a hermaphrodite, unless you suck it up and fold it in.
If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that is not uncommon for an uncommon condition.

But that hasn't stopped you before.

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