Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,038

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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heartandmind

Moline, IL

#213035 Aug 29, 2013
debsuelyn wrote:
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I have been reading your posts and they do not make any sense at all, for it is either your way or no way. To the Christian who follows Christ daily, we follow Christ in everything that we do including helping people that are committing sins and especially those precious children that may be hanging on a fence and not know which way to go. I would take my children out of school today if they were still in school and I would continue to teach them God's perfect plan for their lives. If they were born both female and male, then I could see letting them make that decision, but not if you just want to change what we consider normal with all that a man has or woman has to conceive a child. If you say that you are a Christian, I would advise you to Study to show yourself approved unto God, for a workman needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the Word of Truth taken from Second Timothy 2:15. The homosexuals of today that say they are Christians are just deceiving themselves thinking that they are just going to get away with what they are doing. The rest of us are taking our Faith very seriously as a matter of life or death. Read James chapter 5 verses 19 & 20 telling the brethern that if someone does err from the Truth, let him know that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. When Apostle Paul preached to the Church, he did not in any way butter anything up to make you feel that you were just OK in whatever sin you were doing, for he preached the Word as God through Christ told him to preach and that was to convict you of yours sins, no matter what they were and live a Spiritual Life from thereafter. In some of your posts, you are making it sound like you have all the answers to help children, well it seems that you are leaving God out of the picture totally because only God has the power to heal completely and your way will not save that person either.
you claim that i only see things "my way or no way" - you're just as guilty of the same thing.

i've pointed out to you 3 major factors in the changing game - the biggest culprit of all was exodus. i can't imagine how many lives they've damaged. even they finally conceeded defeat and realized they weren't doing the good they thought they were.

now the question is : how many people are you going to harm by choosing to continue the farce and lie of attempting to change people to something they really are not?
Sameoldstuff

Cambridge, IL

#213036 Aug 29, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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"...that where voted on with regaurds towards same sex marriage volated it."
Say what?
Dang Frankie, the last two times that you fools voted on the subject of same sex marriage, they where both shot down for violating the Constitution. Have your law makers take a class or two.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#213045 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>Glad to disappoint you, but I assure you that I have read the Bible and you have not. If you had then you would know it was not a fantasy.
I mentioned the major religions and gave you the option of Wicca, but some satanist will allow for homosexuality, and then there are some pagan ritual religions.
You should care, unless you were lying about reading the Bible.
Now, please tell us, what was your reason for opposing same sex marriages before. Come on, give us the mountain of research that led you to that concrete decision. You see, knowing the basis of that decision is all we need know to understand your current decision.
I have not lied, I have read it, twice, cover to cover and in context ( the only way any book should be read ). I certainly did not memorize any of it ( what a total waste of time that would be ) but know generally what is in it.

This is the USA where we have freedom of religion, any religion, regardless of how many followers it has, and as long as you abide by US law, you are free to believe whichever religion you want to, and no religion is allowed power over anyone else.

If you are new to this country there are some immigrant courses you can take to learn more about it.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#213046 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. In only 13 states is it legal for same sex marriages.
Wrong 14 states now, probably 15 by the end of the year.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213047 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Never did.
Disagree??
Find the post Rover boy.
LOL!!!
Geeeezus already. What a LOSER your momma gave birth to.
Yes you did. You threatened to beat me "into a greasy stain". I know you did, you know you did. But I'll work on getting you to do it again fruitloops so you can't deny it again. How's that punk?

Whoop!~Whoop!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213048 Aug 29, 2013
Sameoldstuff wrote:
<quoted text>Dang Frankie, the last two times that you fools voted on the subject of same sex marriage, they where both shot down for violating the Constitution. Have your law makers take a class or two.
I didn't vote against SSM, fool. Try again. If it's too much for you, ask for help.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213051 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Pretty simple really jackass. It simply means treat gays as equals.
Too hard to understand is it? No surprise given it probably takes you six tries before you get your left shoe on the correct foot in the morning.
Relax power ranger. I know what it means.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213052 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Tell you what bullshitter.
Find one case here in the U.S. in which one brother wanted to marry his sibling of the same sex.
Just one case.
C'mon fuckup....you've got what....millions of people here. If you held any water in your dumbass statement you should be able to find one.
LOL!!!
You're an IDIOT buddy.
We don't deny rights just because no one asked for them. Try again spice cake. Only not so stupid. Ask for help. Remember! There are no dumb posts, only dopeyass dummies like yourself.
Sameoldstuff

Cambridge, IL

#213053 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. In only 13 states is it legal for same sex marriages, which is barely 1/4 of all the states. Perhaps you people should find a court that says that the 3y normal marriage states are in violation of the US Constitution. I suggest you look up the voting, only one state for vote same sex marriage, the only two did not approve the ban.
That said there are "ZERO" states with constitutional definitions of marriage defining it to include same sex marrying. "ZERO"
That is 30 to 0. A shut up. Overwhelming. Majorally impressive.
Wrong again, in fourteen states, two people of the same sex can be married, yes 14, BTW Washington DC also allows same sex marriage. Soon other states will follow. One day, and not to far off, all 50 states. One more thing more than 50% of this Nation, is in favor of same sex marriage. Oh and another bit of law, a state Constitution amendment, is not needed to allow same sex mariage. Just look at the 14 states and Washington DC. and you will find that to be true. What is true is this, there is nothing, nada, zip, zilch, zero that YOU and all the Bible Beating Fundies can do about it.

Find the amendment in the US Constitution, that allows for opposite sex marriage.
Sameoldstuff

Cambridge, IL

#213054 Aug 29, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I didn't vote against SSM, fool. Try again. If it's too much for you, ask for help.
Sure you didn't, OK yep, what ever spiceboi
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213055 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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That is if someone wants to believe in your dicked up form of religion.
Yeah shitass....good luck. You might also believe the world was formed thousands of years ago and men came from clay formed by God's hands and that Adam was the first divorcee that made the mistake of biting from the apple.
LOL!!!
Get lost you stupid Bible thumping Jesus freak street preacher idiot.
It's a public forum moron. No one has to leave just because you're too stupid.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213058 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Right.
Yet another internet tough guy.
Been to Wooster, Ohio by the way. A shithole during the 9 months of winter that hits there where the skies are constantly gray, cold and forbidding and the first shovel of snow you pushed off your driveway in late October is still there during spring thaw. Humidity so thick that immigrants from Singapore want to go home and full of nothing but pasty, obese white people driving 23 year old Mopars while working at the factory dreaming of the moment they can leave their dead end jobs to get back to the doublewide covered in burned out Christmas lights from 6 seasons ago.
LOL!!!
But go on. Please tell me how you intend to 'backhand' me Brutus.
Sounds like Sacramento but with no snow, just bad air and oppressive heat and morons. Too funny! Meth labs and cow sh!t. Ah!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213060 Aug 29, 2013
Sameoldstuff wrote:
<quoted text>Sure you didn't, OK yep, what ever spiceboi
How original.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#213061 Aug 29, 2013
Another win today

The federal government as far as taxes are concerned are going to recognize same sex couples that were legally married, even if they are living in a state that does not recognize them as married.

That means we now have federal recognition in all 50 states
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213062 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Is 'spece cake' now an insult??
How about 'salt shaker'. Might that be worse??
No American should have to ask nor demand rights already given to them by our Constitution and how our country was set up in which citizens are afforded a full set of liberties and freedoms providing those liberties do not produce harm.
Shaddup already....LOL!!!
No. Make me tough guy.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213064 Aug 29, 2013
Think I'll go over to the Sacramento HOME DEPOT parking lot. The one near Dopey Dan's house. YUK!YUK!YUK!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213065 Aug 29, 2013
Big D wrote:
Another win today
The federal government as far as taxes are concerned are going to recognize same sex couples that were legally married, even if they are living in a state that does not recognize them as married.
That means we now have federal recognition in all 50 states
"we"?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213072 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Puh-lease.
DOMA is a failed concept. Had it not have been it would have been held in force.
Listen cupcake...you don't have to like gays. You don't have to agree in them marrying. Unfortunately for you you don't have the power nor right to impede on the basic liberties afforded other Americans unless those said liberties produce viable harm.
Now go and fetch dog. Go find some viable harm that gay marriage causes or please....STFU already.
LOL!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD damn buddy. Give it a rest.
"...those said liberties produce viable harm." Where'd you read that you big dope? The Dopey Dan pretend Constitution? "viable harm". "afforded". Too funny!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213073 Aug 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I, like others, would just like to see proof.
Kinda like claiming the local government is made up of aliens from Saturn whose intent is to take over and steal all the mozerella cheese within a 185 mile radius....we just want to see proof of bullshit claims before taking them seriously.
No need. You and I both know you did. You're getting angry again right now Ace.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213076 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>You caught that. I know a lot of gays are posers who pretend they are straight supporters.
I am waiting for one to explain why they do not support same sex adult blood marriages. Sounds like discrimination, hate and bigotry to me.
That's what it is. The "marriage equality stops right after I get it" attitude, otherwise known as hypocrisy.

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