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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211301 Aug 21, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
and you never know when you will have a crisis, like death of a family member, terroists attack, illness that is not curable, then you may, just may be interested to know if you are on the right path!!
Like you said, just blame it on sin from genealogy. All of us here are praying that you get some help. I have seen many people recover from the Westboro Cult.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211302 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I will grant you tha.t
At first as a child I was religious, and then as I grew up ( about the time I stopped believing in Santa ) I realized what religion actually was, and as I grew older, instead of being non-religious, I have over time become anti-religious.
I am a student of history, and religion is one of the 3 great plagues of mankind, perhaps the one that has done the most harm.
i prefer the non-religious, the anti-religious is negative and therefore not doing you or others much good. I know it's hard to resist when people like suzzane and her husband start spitting their hate for people that are not like them. I would not want to worship a God that they pretend to believe in. I do find it just as hard to believe that life started without intelligent design. But let's not go into that here.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#211303 Aug 21, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
To heartandmind,
I hope that you did not misunderstand me, but the family member is not homosexual at all. They have never been married, but lives with us and homsexuality is something that they talk about all them time and are disgusted with the whole thing. She feels like we do that if the homosexuals feel that they are normal, then they ........
Sorry that I am clumping all of this together. Thank you.
well, suzy-q....i've tried to help you understand the ramifications of what your words do. you refuse to even acknowledge the pain and suffering you and others like you cause.

i'm not sure there's much else i can do to help you - and in effect, those that you're hurting. it is for those people that i have to have empathy and prayers for. it is for those people that i have to take time and help. i see the net results of what you do. you turn a blind eye - and will, most likely, continue to do so, selfishly. you do this because what you're doing makes YOU feel better, not the person you're "counseling" or "witnessing" to.
someday, i hope these people confront you and show you what you've done to them so you can see the pain and anger first hand. at least exodus international has seen the error of their ways, closed it's doors and apologized to all those people they've hurt. but they only did this AFTER they'd been confronted by the people they'd hurt.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211304 Aug 21, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
so I put you on my prayer list (of which I have alot of names now) and you never know when you will have a crisis, like death of a family member, terroists attack, illness that is not curable, then you may, just may be interested to know if you are on the right path!!
Great idea, pray for our fake names...LOL....Who told you that you are on the right path? Stop playing God! Who hasn't been through a crisis? That's life. Find a good bible believing Church that doesn't use Leviticus to justify hate and judgement.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211305 Aug 21, 2013
commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the spaghetti as much as the meat balls.
Ah yes, of course. It always goes back to balls with these clowns.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211306 Aug 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Good one! "My sphincter gets a charlie horse thinking about it."
YUK!YUK!YUK! Too funny! Mine too.
I went in for my 6 month doctor visit and he said "do you want me to examine your prostate today?" I said "I'm not in the mood." He said "Good. neither am I." It was done 6 months ago so no need.
VV calls that a date. Go figure.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211307 Aug 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a nerdy joke. It was never funny though. It didn't improve with age.
Oh no, they have achieved quite a lot, if one religions beliefs are to be taught in school, then other religions should have equal time.

They have done quite a bit

No more ridiculous than a magic tree, talking snake, a rib woman and a guy with 2 dads who is also his own father.( depending on which cult you adhere too )
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211308 Aug 21, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>i prefer the non-religious, the anti-religious is negative and therefore not doing you or others much good. I know it's hard to resist when people like suzzane and her husband start spitting their hate for people that are not like them. I would not want to worship a God that they pretend to believe in. I do find it just as hard to believe that life started without intelligent design. But let's not go into that here.
You are free to have your preference

My problem is the more I look at history, the more damage I see has been done. As a human being, I cannot help but despise it

But I do agree about Suzanne, I honestly dont think she understands the damage she causes. Nor do I think you will get her to look at herself one little bit. She is indoctrinated to the point that she thinks she is in possession of knowledge others do not have, she is looking down at you from on high in her mind, she is deluded beyond redemption.

You are not going to make any progress with a psychosis like that.

It reminds me of something Carl Sagan once said

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
Bag Os

Monrovia, CA

#211309 Aug 21, 2013
Bag O's will never get you very far.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211312 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever queen.
Irregardless, these truths haven't changed, and you still have NO answer for them.
SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
I don't have to have an answer for these issues. They are realities. Our government supports them.

None of your business unless you're either (a)getting into a same-sex marriage or (b)someone is trying to engage in anal intercourse with you.

My guess is that you wouldn't be demeaned or harmed if somebody tried to tap you in the jacksie. Based on your constant referral to anal sex, I believe you think about it quite a bit.

That's just my observation...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211313 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>His great noodle, does not require that you worship him, he is not self centered. So no FSM is not like any other religion. Have a nice day
Oh yeah? GET A JOB!

Have a sh!tty day Jizzy-Poof.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211314 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks ever so much. I do have a question or two.
1. Can you tell me where the word homosexual appears in the Bible, both OT and NT?
2.What are the languages that are used in the original documents?
1. Fruity spaghetti?
2. Spaghetti, marinara, and romano cheese?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211315 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I will grant you tha.t
At first as a child I was religious, and then as I grew up ( about the time I stopped believing in Santa ) I realized what religion actually was, and as I grew older, instead of being non-religious, I have over time become anti-religious.
I am a student of history, and religion is one of the 3 great plagues of mankind, perhaps the one that has done the most harm.
Dopey story. Who cares?
Gustavo

Harbor City, CA

#211316 Aug 21, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
To heartandmind,
I hope that you did not misunderstand me, but the family member is not homosexual at all. They have never been married, but lives with us and homsexuality is something that they talk about all them time and are disgusted with the whole thing. She feels like we do that if the homosexuals feel that they are normal, then they should prove they are by having children normally. At the clinic that she was at, we do not know if there were any homosexuals, but they had extreme mental illness and 3 of them committed suicide. I happen to know 2 people who were homosexuals when they were young and one of them became a Christian and feels guilty that they ever did such a thing and are married with children. The other one says that they had accepted Christ when they were younger, but does not take it as seriously as we do, but is married now with 1 child and now hates homosexuality and regrets that they were ever a homosexual. We truly believe that God can do anything if you put your full trust in Him. Like our family member, when I was at a loss and was depending on the clinic to help her, I happen to see a Christian Program and they said that there is a woman out there by my name and there will be a healing for a family member and I said that was for me, I laid hands on her and she started acting more normal and got better day by day. I do not know if you have ever experienced healings, but we have seen them face to face. One of my sons had kidney disease at the age of 12 and was in the hospital for 1 week with all the sympthoms and we had our Christian Friends go over everyday to the hospital to pray and one week later the doctor was going to take my son on a helicopter to another city to have him checked out and the day we went to the hospital to watch them put him on the helicopter, the doctor came to us and said, I do not know what happened to your son in the middle of the night, but he is well today and that was 38 years ago and has never had any kidney problems again, so I know first hand experience what God can do. I for myself had a severe mental problem with panic attacks over 50 years ago and it took awhile for me to recover, but I never saw a phychiatrist and I turned to God and he helped me and I have overcome that fear. The family member was not misdiagnosed at all, we all knew what was wrong with her, but we worked with her without medicine and prayed continually about her condition and she has overcome her problem. We know what God can do if we Trust in Him and Obey all His Commandments. We watch Christian programs alot and Study the Scriptures regularly. My husband leads Bible Studies and we no not belong to any Church which means (called out) in greek. God's Temple is not made with hands as if he needed any (that is found in Acts chapter 17 where Apostle Paul was speaking at Athens, Greece). We are committed in trying to help those out there that we have come in contact with. When you mentioned that these people that we know that were homosexuals, believe me that they have no feelings anymore about the same sex at all. They are disgusted with the whole idea and it makes them sick to their stomach. God can help anyone with any sin. I use to gamble and gave it up cold turkey because I was getting overwhelmed by the whole idea of winning money and God one day had a situation appear to me and I ran from it, so I was delivered completely. Out of all the years that my husband and I have been in a ministry, we have been with lots of people with different types of sin and they came out of sin and God delivered them. We know a family of 7 people who had a complete miracle and came to Christ because there family was going down the tubes. So, you may have different experiences, but you have not been where we have been. Sorry that I am clumping all of this together. Thank you.
Sorry your ass, don't do it again.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211320 Aug 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Fruity spaghetti?
2. Spaghetti, marinara, and romano cheese?
#2 and the right wine, red, not too sweet, something with some depth and character, perhaps some garlic knots to go along with it

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211321 Aug 21, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I don't have to have an answer for these issues. They are realities. Our government supports them.
None of your business unless you're either (a)getting into a same-sex marriage or (b)someone is trying to engage in anal intercourse with you.
My guess is that you wouldn't be demeaned or harmed if somebody tried to tap you in the jacksie. Based on your constant referral to anal sex, I believe you think about it quite a bit.
That's just my observation...
Or (c) trying to equate an abusive fraudulent relationship with marriage. And that makes it everyone's business.

Bases on your constant attempt to demean me with gay anal sex, I believe you know that. That's just my observation...
sheesh

Conowingo, MD

#211323 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>

Thanks ever so much. I do have a question or two.
1. Can you tell me where the word homosexual appears in the Bible, both OT and NT?
That is the problem. It doesn't appear in the Bible. Not the original text anyway. Just the ones that have translated and injected their own ideology.
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>

2.What are the languages that are used in the original documents?
They're ancient. Many of the definitions have been altered to suit modern thinking. Mostly bias and prejudice of late.

I asked her to look at the meanings of the scriptures within the context of the time they were written and using the definitions of that era. If she did that she just might see that the scriptures didn't address homosexuality so much as they did address promiscuity. Two entirely different concepts.

She promptly stated she would no longer answer individuals. Apparently she chose to go against her earlier comment on a limited basis as she has not responded to my suggestion as described above.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211326 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>I like EVOO, garlic, light on the toe cheese, Cold beer.
Well you cant be wrong about what you like :)

I like a beer with character too, I think the last 6 pack I bought was some kind of "Double Barrel Ale" surprising and had some depth to it. Hardly anyone makes the style of beer I really like, Bitters, IPA just doesnt do it, too light, full bodied bitters is my favorite, but hard to come by these days.

I like the Louis Martini Napa Cabernet for wine( NOT the Sonoma )

It is about what I look for in a Cab
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211327 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Or (c) trying to equate an abusive fraudulent relationship with marriage....
You relate your abusive fraudulent relationship as a marriage.

Not your place to judge anyone else ( I think your Christ mentions that too )

Same sex couple are married, whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, whether your recognize it or not, whether you are ignorant of it or not. You are just not that important.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211328 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>I like EVOO, garlic, light on the toe cheese, Cold beer.
Who cares?

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