Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,148

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211217 Aug 20, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
Dear heartandmind, We will not write back to anyone individually anymore, for we believe it is a waste of our time.
Ok Sybil.
Wrappers

Monrovia, CA

#211218 Aug 20, 2013
Non bio degradable BULL Sheaters

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211219 Aug 20, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
Dear heartandmind, We will not write back to anyone individually anymore, for we believe it is a waste of our time.
Did you just figure that out? Most of us here are not into embracing the Westboro doctrine.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211220 Aug 20, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
We have a family member that has had mental illness for much of her life.
Did you tell her it was because of her genealogy of sin. And therefore write her off?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211221 Aug 20, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
This is because of the nasty drugs they push down ones throat. We did not take her anymore because her condition was so bad, so God did intervene and I heard a message over TV that was for me, so I got up laid hands on her and she started to pull out of it. We took her to a neurologist and he could not believe what she had been through because he had seen her a few times when we had taken her to the clinic. She completly pulled out of the state she was in because God was healing her fast. I had volunteered at this clinic for many years as a singing director and I stayed there on the the days we took the family member and I saw everything there was to see in mental illness. Three of them commmitted Suicide and one of them was overdrugged and fell in the street and died at the age of 23. We believe if the clinic would have allowed me or my husband to witness Christ to these people, we may have helped some of them. We sincerly believe that this can happen. We had a ministry for 10 years with no money involved and people would come and not be interested in the Bible, but liked the fellowship, but let me tell you when some of them had a crisis in their lives, 2 of them came knocking at our door in the middle of the night and one of them was on the verge of committing suicide because of adultry. We have been married for 55 years and we have been in lots of denominations and we finally got back into the Bible for Christ Holy Spirit is the only teacher (First John 2:27). We believe that God put us together for his service. We knew a psychologist who was a Christian and he helped many people. You do not need a psychiatist, you need Christ and we have seen this first hand experience. We know of alot of homosexuals that have been saved and come straight as a result of someone out there helping them in their sins and now they are married with children. Thank you for your comment to us.
BS...are you saying God can't use a Doctor to heal? Do you know any homosexuals that were saved and came straight? You do lie a lot. I know some homosexuals that are homosexuals and are saved. You are the one making people want to kill themselves. How many of those gays did themselves in because of your confusion? Forty years ago, it was medically determined that homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexuality. And 40 years later you are still fighting it. Instead of fighting it, why don't you embrace and love the person? Accept others as they are and always have been. You act like gay is a disease. Why do you keep hurting people so much?
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211222 Aug 20, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>BS...are you saying God can't use a Doctor to heal? Do you know any homosexuals that were saved and came straight? You do lie a lot. I know some homosexuals that are homosexuals and are saved. You are the one making people want to kill themselves. How many of those gays did themselves in because of your confusion? Forty years ago, it was medically determined that homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexuality. And 40 years later you are still fighting it. Instead of fighting it, why don't you embrace and love the person? Accept others as they are and always have been. You act like gay is a disease. Why do you keep hurting people so much?
Because she is evil, masquerading as a self-righteous "Christian".
Wow

Delano, CA

#211223 Aug 20, 2013
Don't any of you respect God anymore..you people are selfish, hypocritical, and twisted people those of you who call whatever your "thing of a relationship" to be a "marriage"..crazy people..
sheesh

Washington, DC

#211224 Aug 20, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
Dear heartandmind, We will not write back to anyone individually anymore, for we believe it is a waste of our time.
So no more dialogue then, eh? What direction does that give to you?
sheesh

Washington, DC

#211225 Aug 20, 2013
Miss Stake Flour 1963 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you finally accept that them leftists keep teaching unholy hooeyoats like climate change, carbonised deposits, evolution, and Bee Ess like the earth is older than the bible proves, which is 6,245 years old. There were NO dinosaurs, just like there is no SPIDEMAN. Get a grip. God will forgive you only if you forgo Obamacare and all them stuppid beliefes stupid beliefs like I said and you know, including retirment for folks what didnt get out when the outing was good or keep on working. If everybody would keep their job and not demand free chex from unemployment then we could all get by on $3.25 and hour like the next president has just said. Love Jesus and forget the rest.
The next president? So who would that be?

That "if everybody would keep their job" bit is awfully ignorant of you. If I get laid off or if the company I work for goes belly up, should I simply continue to go to work and try to get someone I no longer work for to pay me?

BTW, those "free" checks for unemployment aren't free. Those of us who have employees pay into an unemployment insurance fund. I'm going to go way out on a limb here and assume you don't employ anyone.
Mold

Monrovia, CA

#211226 Aug 20, 2013
Poke a hole in your skull and let some light in, it will stop the mold from growing between your ears.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211231 Aug 21, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
But your argument against embracing homosexuality rests in the fact that no society has ever embraced homosexuality from beginning to end.
It's only logical that you believe that a culture's support of a certain behavior from beginning to end is a reason for its presence in contemporary society.
You don't get to have it both ways, Kim. Either history's support of slavery and homophobia indicates that these abominable actions should continue or they shouldn't. What's your pleasure?
I have never supported homophobia.

I have rejected calling anal sex 'safe', and ss couples 'married'. That rejection is based on established scientific facts so obvious people in every culture and religion understood them before science explained them.

You still cannot explain why ss couples have never been accepted as married in a single culture from start to finish in all of human history, while at the same time, marriage has been present everywhere, all the time.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211232 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth is, those things were always wrong.
Calling mutually sterile duplicate gendered couples married is always wrong too.
This isn't rocket science.
kookaa wrote:
<quoted text>
The Supreme Court disagrees with you. Sorry.
SCOTUS didn't disagree with me silly girl,

they disagreed with reality and science.

And ss couples are STILL mutually sterile duplicate gendered halves of marriage.

Who rules?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211233 Aug 21, 2013
kookaa wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all gay men engage in anal sex, just so you know.
He didn't say they did. How did you get so confused?

Isn't that the closet imitation of natural sexual intimacy gays can fabricate? An inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning act is hardly equal to normal, natural sexual intercourse.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#211234 Aug 21, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Historical context is the use of the wisdom that we have gathered over the ages. Dismissing it is the only way that you can even attempt to validate your position. Boring...
"Whether something was done in the past will always and forever be COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT"... Uh huh....right...
Language, culture, art, medicine, etc....all irelevant......righty right.
Whatever you say, sweetums...
Alright Rock! Joanie is full of baloney....uh......that could have more than one meaning...

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#211235 Aug 21, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Yesterdays truth is todays truth. Truth is immutable.
Big D will not green eggs and ham, not a plane, not on a train, not on a boat, not with a goat.....but he does like same sex marriage in a carriage.....Big D he be.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#211237 Aug 21, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Yesterdays truth is todays truth. Truth is immutable.
Yesterday’s truths includes

People other than European are inferior genetically

The earth is flat

Slavery of populations is normal and natural and moral

Women are second class citizens

All stars orbit the earth including the sun and all planets

Protestants should be burned at the stake

Christians should be fed to lions

Leaves falling into water will spontaneously transform into fish over time

Your yesterdays truths are full of crap, and specifically not true

Whenever someone looks to history for morality it makes me laugh, transport them back to that time and they would be put to death for heresy for the truths of that time
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211238 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I have never supported homophobia.
I have rejected calling anal sex 'safe', and ss couples 'married'..
You are homophobe, you should acknowledge your mental handicap

You have no power whatsoever over others, your rejection is exactly that, your personal rejection which carries no weight legally at all.

That I reject your marriage carries the same weight and is as important as your rejection.

T
hey are married, whether you comprehend it or not, whether you reject it or not, they are married and recognized by the only authority in this country… State and federal law
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211239 Aug 21, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Big D will not green eggs and ham, not a plane, not on a train, not on a boat, not with a goat.....but he does like same sex marriage in a carriage.....Big D he be.
A few years ago wrote a set of potential wedding vows for my daughter in the style of Dr Seuss.

She kept them and had then framed, but she didn’t actually use them.

I promise you to hold and keep
and not to kill you in your sleep......etc
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#211240 Aug 21, 2013
John 3:16-21
"For God so loved the world that he have His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on Him is not condemned; but he that believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God, and this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211241 Aug 21, 2013
Pastafarianism is a real religion.

Most of us do not believe a religion – Christianity, Islam, Pastafarianiasm – requires literal belief in order to provide spiritual enlightenment. That is, we can be part of a community without becoming indoctrinated. There are many levels of belief.

By design, the only dogma allowed in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the rejection of dogma. That is, there are no strict rules and regulations, there are no rote rituals and prayers and other nonsense. Every member has a say in what this church is and what it becomes.

To outsiders it makes us hard to define, but here are some general things that can be said about our beliefs:

» We believe pirates, the original Pastafarians, were peaceful explorers and it was due to Christian misinformation that they have an image of outcast criminals today

» We are fond of beer

» Every Friday is a Religious Holiday

» We do not take ourselves too seriously

» We embrace contradictions (though in that we are hardly unique)

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