Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,318

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211184 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yep, just because something was true in the past, does not make it a good thing.
See above post.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211185 Aug 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Jonah1 wrote:
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Fairy tale time again!!
Feel free to present APA studies and demonstrate the fraudulency and expose where science has been distorted!! Get right on that. When you do, be sure and present all the numerous other studies that basically reach the same conclusion as the APAs!!!
I love that idiots like you actually think that anyone above a 6th grade education would believe that an organization as large and respected as the APA would risk their credibility in order to promote your mythical "gay agenda"!!!!! You are so f*cking stupid Greggie!!!! LOL!!!!
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Your obsession over anal sex is creepy. Secondly, medical doctors would never state that a sexual practice was "demeaning". This is a judgment only, and it's yours. It's as irrelevant as all your other made up bullshyt!!! And you will not find medical research that states that anal sex is inherently unhealthy or harmful. You lie. A lot.
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And yet none of the children raised in gay headed households will concur with that. And guess what, they know better than you. More irrelevant and unsupported judgment from the fantasy land of KiMare's head!!!
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No dear, worst case situations would be children being raised by lying, hypocritical bigots like yourself. Can't imagine how horrible that would be for a child.

Sadly, none of the hundreds of thousands of children being raised in gay headed households would concur. You lose again.
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We already are. But mindless slugs like yourself keep trying to prevent children from being given loving and supportive homes. You don't care about children at all. You're a despicable hypocrite. Nasty and vile to the core. Ugly.
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And yet none of the hundreds of thousands of children already raised by gay parents would agree with you. Know who else doesn't agree with you silly bitch?
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Psychoanalytic Association
National Association of Social Workers
Child Welfare League of America
North American Council on Adoptable Children
Canadian Psychological Association
LOL!!!! Smile Greggie!! You've just been spanked. Again. But do rush back with any of the supposedly fraudulent studies you mention and dissect them for us!!! We'd love to watch the meltdown!!!!
My guess is instead, you will cowardly ignore doing so and revert back to one of your other nonsensical talking points!!!
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Wow! Hysterical much?
Very much. Inhibitively so...
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211186 Aug 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Relax fruitloops. You're screaming.
He has a disability...
"Aut-to-been-born-smarter -ism"
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211187 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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right... zero bearing at all
I donít care if same sex marriage was embraced by other cultures in history or not
I donít care if slavery was embraced by other cultures in history
I donít care of women were regarded as second class citizens in history
I donít care if protestants were burned at the stake for their religion in history
That was then, this is now.. welcome to... today
Just because something was true before, does not mean it should be today.
Yesterdays truth is todays truth. Truth is immutable.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211188 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Really? What exactly does history tell us will happen? Please provide specific proof of what has happened to past societies that allowed same-sex marriage.
There weren't any. You know that.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211189 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Really? What exactly does history tell us will happen? Please provide specific proof of what has happened to past societies that allowed same-sex marriage.
No past societies had their lawyers exploiting loopholes in their Constitutions. Common sense prevailed.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211190 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Isn't it funny how everyone seems to misunderstand what you say? Maybe you actually say the things we say, but then you like to backpedal. Yeah... That's it...
Who's "everyone"? Oh, you mean "Everyone that supports SSM", right?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211191 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You didn't misunderstand, you lied.
You don't speak for 'everyone'. That's a lie too.
Correct.
And.. Correct.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211192 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Truth doesnít change?
So you support slavery
You support the repression of women as second class citizens
You are a racist bigot?
You support burning protestants at the stake
All of those where truths
Truth doesnít change... are you volunteering to be burned first?
Slavery wasn't a truth.
The repression of women as second class citizens wasn't a truth.
A racist bigot isn't a truth.
Burning protestants at the stake wasn't a truth.
These were all acts, not truths. Any more than this post of yours....

Truths:
Slavery, or the forced service from another, was wrong.
Women aren't second class anything.
I'm a racist. I don't care if you call me one.
Burning protestants at the stake was as wrong as burning my kind, the witches.

These! These are truths. Your listed "truths" were, in fact, lies.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211193 Aug 20, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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When you name one culture where women were treated equally from start to finish. Just one.
Historical context. The argument of fools!!!!
Why don't you just cut and post this from now on: "But it's not been done before so therefore that magically translates to, it shouldn't be done now....despite the fact that I and no other bigot like me can establish a reason to deny it."
KiMare = Stupid cur
1) Ancient Egypt.
2) any other questions?
3) Have a nice day.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211194 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I can name quite a few that embraced slavery as a way of life from start to finish.
Donít look to the past for morality, that was then, this is now, welcome to Ö. today
Just because you choose to shit on the past, don't think that the rest of us do. We are wise because we pay attention to what has passed before.
Your logic means that, for instance, that children shouldn't look twice before crossing the street, because when little Timmy got killed by not looking yesterday, it was irrelevant to today.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211195 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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So you think those things were always wrong, and slavery was always right, and repression of women as second class citizens was always right and burning protestants at the stake was always right.
I am sure glad I am not of your religion.
Cause I can tell you right now, your religion was always wrong.
WTF are you babbling on about now? Those things were wrong. He said so and you make the claim that he agrees with them? Holy shit, D, get a grip. Loosen that halo a bit....
Big D lie #.....oh, who's counting anymore....
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211196 Aug 20, 2013
HeelAnToe wrote:
Just march yourself to the nearest BUS STATION AND BUY A ONE WAY TICKET TO the farthest destination the bus ravels to.
The entire SSM crowd is out there, where the buses don't run....
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211197 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Often you are so silly stupid its not worth engaging.
(Rocky shakes his head ruefully at the D)...What more needs to be said?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211198 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The truth is, those things were always wrong.
Calling mutually sterile duplicate gendered couples married is always wrong too.
This isn't rocket science.
But your argument against embracing homosexuality rests in the fact that no society has ever embraced homosexuality from beginning to end.

It's only logical that you believe that a culture's support of a certain behavior from beginning to end is a reason for its presence in contemporary society.

You don't get to have it both ways, Kim. Either history's support of slavery and homophobia indicates that these abominable actions should continue or they shouldn't. What's your pleasure?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211199 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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But your argument against embracing homosexuality rests in the fact that no society has ever embraced homosexuality from beginning to end.
It's only logical that you believe that a culture's support of a certain behavior from beginning to end is a reason for its presence in contemporary society.
You don't get to have it both ways, Kim. Either history's support of slavery and homophobia indicates that these abominable actions should continue or they shouldn't. What's your pleasure?
Well, that's just it, VV, we DO get to have it both ways. We get to decide what was correct from the past, and we get to learn what wasn't right. See? Easy, huh? We have the luxury of not having to be trapped by your faulty logic quiz....
Sorry if that messed up your carefully crafted conundrum, hope you didn't put too much time into that one....
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#211200 Aug 20, 2013
Dear heartandmind, We will not write back to anyone individually anymore, for we believe it is a waste of our time.

I am only going to address a few things right now that you brought up. We have a family member that has had mental illness for much of her life. She had been in a day by day clinic that we took her to and she got so sick that she came out as they would put it (zombie state) and that is when they shuffle when they walk and they are not themselves. This is because of the nasty drugs they push down ones throat. We did not take her anymore because her condition was so bad, so God did intervene and I heard a message over TV that was for me, so I got up laid hands on her and she started to pull out of it. We took her to a neurologist and he could not believe what she had been through because he had seen her a few times when we had taken her to the clinic. She completly pulled out of the state she was in because God was healing her fast. I had volunteered at this clinic for many years as a singing director and I stayed there on the the days we took the family member and I saw everything there was to see in mental illness. Three of them commmitted Suicide and one of them was overdrugged and fell in the street and died at the age of 23. We believe if the clinic would have allowed me or my husband to witness Christ to these people, we may have helped some of them. We sincerly believe that this can happen. We had a ministry for 10 years with no money involved and people would come and not be interested in the Bible, but liked the fellowship, but let me tell you when some of them had a crisis in their lives, 2 of them came knocking at our door in the middle of the night and one of them was on the verge of committing suicide because of adultry. We have been married for 55 years and we have been in lots of denominations and we finally got back into the Bible for Christ Holy Spirit is the only teacher (First John 2:27). We believe that God put us together for his service. We knew a psychologist who was a Christian and he helped many people. You do not need a psychiatist, you need Christ and we have seen this first hand experience. We know of alot of homosexuals that have been saved and come straight as a result of someone out there helping them in their sins and now they are married with children. Thank you for your comment to us.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211201 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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But your argument against embracing homosexuality rests in the fact that no society has ever embraced homosexuality from beginning to end.
It's only logical that you believe that a culture's support of a certain behavior from beginning to end is a reason for its presence in contemporary society.
You don't get to have it both ways, Kim. Either history's support of slavery and homophobia indicates that these abominable actions should continue or they shouldn't. What's your pleasure?
"They are not homophobes. They are not scared. They are just a bunch of (Censored by Topix overzealous robot)."

-Jůn Gnarr. Mayor of Reykjavik
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211202 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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But your argument against embracing homosexuality rests in the fact that no society has ever embraced homosexuality from beginning to end.
It's only logical that you believe that a culture's support of a certain behavior from beginning to end is a reason for its presence in contemporary society.
You don't get to have it both ways, Kim. Either history's support of slavery and homophobia indicates that these abominable actions should continue or they shouldn't. What's your pleasure?
And, a culture's support of a certain behavior doesn't guarantee its continued success, or presence. Witness "Illegal Immigration", for one .... See what tampering with the status quo can do? It can destroy a society...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211203 Aug 20, 2013
Can't believe Topix won't allow me to type "***h*le".
achhh. Censorship sucks.

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