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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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sheesh

United States

#211058 Aug 19, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
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We think that King James was translated by 40 scholars and we do know that some of the hebrew words may mean several words in english, but we feel that it is still the most accurate. The subject that we are discussing is homosexuality and we do not refer to much to the old testament, although we do sometimes. Some of the laws were put into the epistles of Paul and he talks about homosexuality being a abomination very clearly in the Book of Romans and actually, that is the chapter we use the most on this subject. In the Book of First Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9, it says and I quote: "Know ye not that the unrigheous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." Also, in First Timothy chapter 1 verses 8-10 and I quote: But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderes of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." God made it very clear that we should live Holy lives and not partake of sinful things. I know that for our family that things we use to do like go to movies, we do not go anymore because of the content in the movies and also with TV, although we have DirectV, we only watch a very few channels because of all the programs on there that have cussing, homosexuality, adultry etc. We do not have verses of course for these types of entertainment, but that is why God said in the last part of that verse that if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, so we are careful what we watch.
I ouk idhate oti adhiki Theou vasilian ou klironomisousin? Mi planasthe; oute porni oute idhololatrai oute mikhi oute malaki oute arsenokitai

King James version of the above:
Or haven’t you known that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor soft ones nor those who lie with males
Let us focus on “soft ones nor those who lie with males.”

Malaki is translated to mean soft ones. In the ancient Greek language it is a reference to the soft or fine clothing that would be worn by the wealthy. See Luke 7:25 where Jesus asks if anyone had expected to see anyone dressed in fine clothing in the wilderness.
Arsenokitai is a word not found anywhere but the Bible where it occurs twice (it doesn’t appear anywhere else in ancient literature with a definite article, i.e. feminine I or masculine o or os). It appears to be a word that Paul coined himself. It is a combination of the noun arsin (male) and kit (a dervative of the verb kimei - lie down). Of note is the way the word ends, in an i. If it ended in o or os it would be masculine (men who lie with men), but it ends in the feminine article i. This suggest Paul was referring to women who lie with men. A condemnation of promiscuity for women.
Smurf toys

Covina, CA

#211060 Aug 19, 2013
A note to all you Glendora, California residents Gary Clifford the CFO of Athens Services uses a blue "handy cap" placard or hanger in any vehicle he drives? He takes home a 6 figure plus income, Linda the licensed private eye likes that too.

The question to him and his wife, Linda Clifford is? She has had several citizen complaints lodge4d against her, but the Glendora Police Department come to her rescue and clear her (meaning they lose the report).

I noticed you have a handicapped plate on your car. Is your handicap MENTAL, or what?

What about your buddy next door Joseph Santoro does he have one too, since he and you are disabled and get a hefty income "tax Free" from here to eternity.

Both of you disabled guys were and or are Glendora, California city councilmen and or Mayor's.
commonpeeps

Monrovia, CA

#211061 Aug 19, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
My mommy used to give me pop tarts when I was a little jackass like you too. Heartwarming.
Aaahhh those were the good times, right?
suzanne henderson

Placerville, CA

#211063 Aug 20, 2013
sheesh wrote:
<quoted text>
I ouk idhate oti adhiki Theou vasilian ou klironomisousin? Mi planasthe; oute porni oute idhololatrai oute mikhi oute malaki oute arsenokitai
King James version of the above:
Or haven’t you known that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor soft ones nor those who lie with males
Let us focus on “soft ones nor those who lie with males.”
Malaki is translated to mean soft ones. In the ancient Greek language it is a reference to the soft or fine clothing that would be worn by the wealthy. See Luke 7:25 where Jesus asks if anyone had expected to see anyone dressed in fine clothing in the wilderness.
Arsenokitai is a word not found anywhere but the Bible where it occurs twice (it doesn’t appear anywhere else in ancient literature with a definite article, i.e. feminine I or masculine o or os). It appears to be a word that Paul coined himself. It is a combination of the noun arsin (male) and kit (a dervative of the verb kimei - lie down). Of note is the way the word ends, in an i. If it ended in o or os it would be masculine (men who lie with men), but it ends in the feminine article i. This suggest Paul was referring to women who lie with men. A condemnation of promiscuity for women.
My husband and I will check this out, for we have a greek and hebrew dictionary. We do feel that Romans Chapter 1 makes it very clear about homsexuality. These are the verses that we use most of the time. What would be your interpertation of these verses in Romans? We look up greek and hebrew words quite often. We do know that God did not create homosexuals & he would not of created anything that was not perfect. We believe that it is man's sins from the beginning that started sin no matter what it is. Somebody told me earlier that God made homosexuals and I said then, God would have made women to have abortions, children born blind or no limbs. I know personally that there was a medicine that women were taking when they were pregnant many years ago and it was for nausea and I did not take it myself when I was pregnant, but lots of babies were born without limbs. So did God create that? Absolutely Not. This was man's doing. We believe that God created everything perfect and then because of sin, man did sins as time went on and diseases and illnesses came along because of sin and we both know the diseases of homosexuality. I did a research on the second world war and they came up with 9 diseases with homosexuals only. I wrote some material awhile back about this subject. Also, man was so wicked during the time of Sodom and Gomorrah that God destroyed both of those cities. The word sodomy came from Sodom and we know what that means. Anyway thats for your information and we will do our research.

I will not be writing back any individuals from now on. I will write my comments on the forum. It is causing to much confusion and I do not to direct anything that I write to any certain person. There is so much bad language, personal attacks and things that are so bad that in our opinion, we have never witnessed anything like this forum. I write alot of letters to alot of forums from time to
suzanne henderson

Placerville, CA

#211064 Aug 20, 2013
sheesh wrote:
<quoted text>
I ouk idhate oti adhiki Theou vasilian ou klironomisousin? Mi planasthe; oute porni oute idhololatrai oute mikhi oute malaki oute arsenokitai
King James version of the above:
Or haven’t you known that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor soft ones nor those who lie with males
Let us focus on “soft ones nor those who lie with males.”
Malaki is translated to mean soft ones. In the ancient Greek language it is a reference to the soft or fine clothing that would be worn by the wealthy. See Luke 7:25 where Jesus asks if anyone had expected to see anyone dressed in fine clothing in the wilderness.
Arsenokitai is a word not found anywhere but the Bible where it occurs twice (it doesn’t appear anywhere else in ancient literature with a definite article, i.e. feminine I or masculine o or os). It appears to be a word that Paul coined himself. It is a combination of the noun arsin (male) and kit (a dervative of the verb kimei - lie down). Of note is the way the word ends, in an i. If it ended in o or os it would be masculine (men who lie with men), but it ends in the feminine article i. This suggest Paul was referring to women who lie with men. A condemnation of promiscuity for women.
Hi again, I really do not know how the thread got on because I was not finished, but it was not that important.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211065 Aug 20, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
As I thought, when I posted "..I imagine that it's now time to rip "my" argument apart... Now that the shoe has found itself on the other foot....".
I sure called that one, didn't I?
I was not trying to rip you argument apart, I am letting you know that I have absolutely zero concern about something you worry about a lot.( shrug )

People can be converted to Volcano worship, or scientology, or becoming Vegan, or Christianity or belief in astrology or that the moon landings were faked, or belief in UFO's

those are a concern, not orientation

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211066 Aug 20, 2013
commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, I must intervene here and remind you, Mikey is completely allowed to be as crude, vulgar and an idiot as he feels need be. That is his right and he's gonna use it. Any queerstions?
I agree.

I exercised my right to ignore a gay troll whose brain fell out a reamed a//hole.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211067 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
If anyone actually believed the study that you continue to cite then courts and children's services programs would be falling all over themselves to extricate kids from same-sex parent homes.
And I always need to point out that a same-sex couple provides better care than foster systems that place children in and out of homes over and over again. Same-sex couples also provide better care than homes where abuse/neglect is present. We provide a service to these children and to the country.
Your move...
1. Blatantly untrue as usual. The APA knowingly uses clearly fraudulent and unscientific studies while ignoring a study that is the largest and most scientific to date. Moreover, they ignored clear medical science to support inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning anal sex. You trumpet putting children in that deceitful and unnatural situation.

2. You compare worst case situations to justify putting children with ss couples. And sadly, especially for the child, that is the best you can offer. If your concern was for the child's best interest, you would fervently be arguing for the best case scenario.

Your motivation is clearly not the best interests of the child.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211068 Aug 20, 2013
The fact remains;

In EIGHT THOUSAND years of human history, not one SINGLE culture accepted ss couples as married from start to finish.

Common sense told billions of people and every single culture that ss couples do not equate to marriage. They could simply SEE the difference. They understood the unnaturalness of gay sex, a violation of nature. They were smart enough to know that a barren duplicate gendered couple was not marriage.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211069 Aug 20, 2013
kookaa wrote:
<quoted text>
You were dismissed 15,300 posts ago.
Welcome back. Boy (girl?) have you missed some good stuff!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211070 Aug 20, 2013
iron g wrote:
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Ah! A hot lesbian teacher. Oooh yea!!!
Had to be a REALLY good teacher, the best the lesbian in me can picture is Hillary or Janet...
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#211071 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I'll take Rocky's advice.
You're dismissed.
Illusions of grandeur princess? Well this should be easy for you being a hermaphrodite, go fk yourself.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211072 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Blatantly untrue as usual. The APA knowingly uses clearly fraudulent and unscientific studies while ignoring a study that is the largest and most scientific to date. Moreover, they ignored clear medical science to support inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning anal sex. You trumpet putting children in that deceitful and unnatural situation.
2. You compare worst case situations to justify putting children with ss couples. And sadly, especially for the child, that is the best you can offer. If your concern was for the child's best interest, you would fervently be arguing for the best case scenario.
Your motivation is clearly not the best interests of the child.
Delusions of grandeur--"I know better than the entire American Psychiatric Association"

Histrionic characteristics--"Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy, and demeaning" (even though millions of gay and straight people engage in it regularly without experiencing any of these issues).

Denial and generalization--"All gay parents are unable to provide adequate environments to raise children. All straight couples provide a better environment than any other parent combination."

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You keep showing your cards...
Mikey

Long Beach, CA

#211073 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Delusions of grandeur--"I know better than the entire American Psychiatric Association"
Histrionic characteristics--"Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy, and demeaning" (even though millions of gay and straight people engage in it regularly without experiencing any of these issues).
Denial and generalization--"All gay parents are unable to provide adequate environments to raise children. All straight couples provide a better environment than any other parent combination."
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You keep showing your cards...
Glad to see someone else sees it. The troll is horrible, he/she should have been reported for hate speech years ago.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211075 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
The fact remains;
In EIGHT THOUSAND years of human history, not one SINGLE culture accepted ss couples as married from start to finish.
Common sense told billions of people and every single culture that ss couples do not equate to marriage. They could simply SEE the difference. They understood the unnaturalness of gay sex, a violation of nature. They were smart enough to know that a barren duplicate gendered couple was not marriage.
However many accepted slavery, racism, and repression.
I do agree, your position is a lot like slavery, racism and repression.

The ugliness of your position driven by the aberration of your religion is astounding.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211076 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Had to be a REALLY good teacher, the best the lesbian in me can picture is Hillary or Janet...
Now picture Jesus at the rock with the light around his head and a voice bubble saying "Had to be a REALLY good teacher, the best the lesbian in me can picture is Hillary or Janet"

Got it!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211077 Aug 20, 2013
sheesh wrote:
<quoted text>
I was somewhere near finishing elementary school in '70. In the south. The teachers were all matronly in there. Except my first grade teacher. And my 5th grade teacher. He was the only man in a teaching position in the entire school. We all feared him. And our principal. I think she was twelve feet tall and weighed about 700 lbs. She also was rumored to have a paddling machine in her office. I never found out. In reality she was a kind but firm woman. As was my 5th grade teacher. Well, he wasn't a kind but firm woman. He was a kind but firm man. Not many kids gave him a problem. If they did it was usually limited to just once.
That is what is wrong with today's public schools. If you got in trouble at school, you got in trouble at home too. If it was bad enough there was a meeting between your parents and the teacher. Maybe the principal. Then you got in some more trouble at home after that meeting. Now the parents and lawyers come after the teacher while the principal looks at the floor and runs her left big toe in a circle. Then she gets fired for daring to correct someone's innocent little darling. I dunno why anyone wants to become a teacher anymore.
That is exactly correct

Today parents except the school to be babysitters they can fire if they don’t like them, not teachers.

I was paddled once in school ( and I deserved it too ), that could not happen today

I could not be a teacher today, The kids know they can do anything, and the parents will side with them and against authority.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211078 Aug 20, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Delusions of grandeur--"I know better than the entire American Psychiatric Association"
Histrionic characteristics--"Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy, and demeaning" (even though millions of gay and straight people engage in it regularly without experiencing any of these issues).
Denial and generalization--"All gay parents are unable to provide adequate environments to raise children. All straight couples provide a better environment than any other parent combination."
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You keep showing your cards...
1. I made no such assertion. I simply and accurately pointed out the duplicity of the APA.

2. As noted many times before, simple common sense says who engages in a harmful behavior does not change it's consequences.

3. I made no such assertion. That is why you lied about quoting me.

The one showing their cards is you.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211079 Aug 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
However many accepted slavery, racism, and repression.
I do agree, your position is a lot like slavery, racism and repression.
The ugliness of your position driven by the aberration of your religion is astounding.
I stated no position about anything including religion. I simply and accurately noted the message of history.

The fact that you ignored that and instead fabricated a position only exposes your bigotry and the weakness of your position.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211080 Aug 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I stated no position about anything including religion. I simply and accurately noted the message of history.
Yes you did, that slavery and racism were normal and accepted and embraced by many civilizations.

That was then ..... this is now ..... welcome to today.

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