Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#203692 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I'm basing the accusation of Veryvermilion on the fact that we believe in the same God. He seems more willing to not stand up for what he believes, I do. We both might say the same thing, but when he says it, it's okay, but when I say it, it's shouted down. Are you scared to stand up for your lack of god fairly?
On the Martin case, I'm glad that we agree.
It's a simple concept really, gay Christian GOOD! Straight Christian BAD!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#203693 Jul 19, 2013
Mikey wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't go looking for validation from me asstroll. There is nothing in your warped bigoted posts that I agree with and If I were you I'd wouldn't be deem anyone's post a double standard nor imply bias. POS
Nice!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#203694 Jul 19, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You arenít bright enough to comprehend what I am saying
Had an English prof who loved that dopey excuse for poor writing.

He once told me I wasn't bright enough to understand why he failed me on an essay I had written.

Good guy. In the end I got an A.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#203695 Jul 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly. Big d's double standard validates the assessment.
Your false brush off only exposes your bias.
Mikey is biased? LOL

He's also very angry.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#203696 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I guess a true Christian is not allowed to come on a forum and express his or her views when they were not the ones that brought it up. What other rules do you have for the Christian?
You gotta be gay. The only good Christian is a gay Christian. Simple concept really.
in the know

Pulaski, TN

#203697 Jul 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Demonstrate this "hatred" of people.
"bigoted POS" per Mikey Stain?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#203698 Jul 19, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You gotta be gay. The only good Christian is a gay Christian. Simple concept really.
No I would say a Good Christian is one that does not use belief in that religion as an excuse to harm others through words or deeds or legislation. One that does not hate their fellow man and wish them harm.

You are certainly not, nor am I but for a totally different reason.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#203699 Jul 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot see the forest for the trees. I guarantee that my early struggles with my orientation and eventual coming to terms with being a gay Christian leaves me in a better position than you to determine how I should live.
I didn't just give myself over to being a gay man without any thought at all. I studied. I prayed. I sought counsel. And at the end of the day, it's my life and my relationship with God that is most important to me.
You know that old saying, "When you are a hammer, everything you see is a nail"? Well, "When you are a pastor, everything you see is a Bible verse". It's the only tool that you can tangibly grasp. So you run to it every single time.
"Heresy" is just another boogeyman, scare tactic that you and others use to try to "convert". You have your dogma and you insist that others follow it lest they be cast into the fiery depths of hell.
Stop trying to scare people into following Christ. That wasn't His way. That wasn't why He died.
Straw man. You said show me where scripture gives others the right to judge sin. I did.

Quit gay twirling, it only adds to your shame.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#203700 Jul 19, 2013
Mikey wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't go looking for validation from me asstroll. There is nothing in your warped bigoted posts that I agree with and If I were you I'd wouldn't be deem anyone's post a double standard nor imply bias. POS
Your ad homoan attack doesn't change the fact that Bog d and you made clearly bigoted, ignorant and double standard statements..
Big D

Modesto, CA

#203701 Jul 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ad homoan attack doesn't change the fact that Bog d and you made clearly bigoted, ignorant and double standard statements..
The only double standard statements are coming from you, you choose to follow this part and ignore that part of your bible, and then call others heretics that donít follow and ignore the same parts that you follow or ignore.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203705 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. But the difference is once the hater reads what they want to hear, it becomes people like you, that think they have the "true" meaning, that look foolish.
You've mistaken me for someone that thinks there is meaning to be found in your bible.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203706 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. But the difference is once the hater reads what they want to hear, it becomes people like you, that think they have the "true" meaning, that look foolish.
It's actually people like you that call others "haters" that look stupid. Disliking organized religions and not believing in other worldly deities doesn't magically translate to hatred. Get a grip. It's when you go over the top with your self created persecution that you lose it.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203707 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>After reading all your rants mocking the Christian belief and if this isn't hate from you, I would hate to be on the side that you do hate.
I mock religion in the same manner that you mock atheism. Unlike you, I just don't magically translate that into "RiccardoFire hates me".

Let me know when your done trying to peddle the persecution card.
sheesh

United States

#203708 Jul 19, 2013
Worst businesses wrote:
Worst businesses in America NOW other than the Chinese run or ruined businesses:
1.) Bank of America
2.) Com-Cast
3.) Dish Network
4.) Citigroup/ Citi Bank
5.) Wells Fargo
6.) AT&T
7.) Discovery Finances
8.) Direct TV
9.) Time Warner Cable
10.) American Express
Ya left off Sprint and Verizon.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203709 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I guess a true Christian is not allowed to come on a forum and express his or her views when they were not the ones that brought it up. What other rules do you have for the Christian?
The "true Christian". LOL!! I love watching you trying to elevate yourself above others. Never gets old.

When you express something from religion you are expressing beliefs. Don't expect others to agree with them, or to feel they have to give reverence to them. That is a common misconception, especially amongst the fundamentalist leaning sect. I, and other non believers are not under any requirement to hold your religion in some type of esteem. I believe your religion is stupid, and I believe your bible is stupid. That's MY belief system. And I'm under no obligation to hold that back because it offends your belief system. Again, the difference is that I don't expect you to give reverence to my beliefs. I'm quite ok with you stating my beliefs are wrong, or if you mock them. I don't magically convert that into you "hating me".

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203710 Jul 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I'm basing the accusation of Veryvermilion on the fact that we believe in the same God. He seems more willing to not stand up for what he believes, I do.
Wow. Your hubris is astounding.

Actually Veryvermilion has been quite good about standing up for what he believes. But you're so busy telling him that what he believes is wrong, you mistook his standing up for apathy.

I'm still not sure where any of that magically converts to where he would be yelling to "Kill the Christ". I think your original accusation was quite rude actually.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>
We both might say the same thing, but when he says it, it's okay, but when I say it, it's shouted down.
Well, there goes that self created persecution routine again. Never gets old.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you scared to stand up for your lack of god fairly?
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. My lack of god? I don't believe in gods, sorry, so I don't feel I'm lacing one.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#203711 Jul 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The "true Christian". LOL!! I love watching you trying to elevate yourself above others. Never gets old.
That is so funny

I could find a majority of Christians who would say he is not ( they would also say that each other are not )
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#203712 Jul 19, 2013
I'm surprised this thread continues, considering SCOTUS ruled and said that the lower court's findings and decision stands. That should've shut this thread down, considering it's title.
Run down feeling

Covina, CA

#203713 Jul 19, 2013
SF fire department is now being called baby killers, Coroner says Asiana Flight 214 victim killed by fire truck, not plane crash.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#203714 Jul 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Straw man. You said show me where scripture gives others the right to judge sin. I did.
Quit gay twirling, it only adds to your shame.
Did I ask you to show me in scripture where you are given the right to judge sin? I can't remember.

I want you to look at the scripture you provided: "1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NASB) 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."

Show me in this passage where you are asked by Christ to judge others.

Paul is clearly saying to the religious leaders of Corinth that "these" people are the ones who will not "inherit the kingdom of God."

he doesn't say "judge" these people. He doesn't say "mistreat" these people. He simply says that these people will not inherit the kingdom of God.

And think about all of the people Paul doesn't list... Murderers aren't listed. Do murderers get a pass since Paul didn't mention them? I realize this is a ridiculous question, but you're the one using this particular passage as a means of proof that you have the right to judge others.

Finally, do you know what "revilers" are? Revile v.--To assail with abusive language; vituperate.(Synonyms: scold - abuse - inveigh - curse)

Would that include you? You do quite a bit of scolding. You are fairly abusive. You accuse me of being a "reprobate". You accuse me of several disgusting things. You have nothing but contempt for gays. Seems to me that you would fit the bill of being a "reviler". Does this mean you won't inherit the kingdom of God?

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