Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Mar 09

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#188136 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Si if homosexuality is not a mental disorder, are those other sexualiites also not disorders?
Why do you bother asking these questions? I wasnít aware that these other sexual orientations were considered disorders.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>One does not need a marriage license do that, nor is there a state obligation to recognize any, and all, adult personal intimate relationships.
Youíre wandering away from the purpose of getting a marriage license. One desires to be married to the partner of their choosing and reaping the benefits of such an arrangement. I do believe couples who marry are more apt to stay together than couples who simply cohabitate.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>"Access to marriage"? The historic, legal, cultural, and/or religious conjugal marriage of husband and wife, present across time and place? So your suggestion is we should alter that concept so two men/women can have a contract with each other, recognized nationwide. Is that a fair assessment?
Another question you need not ask. The answer should be obvious. Legal contract, yes. Religious, maybe but not necessarily. Nationwide recognition so the legal aspects are uniform across the country.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>"Us heterosexuals"? How about us men AND women regardless of self identified sexual orientation. A opposite sex mixed orientation couple would also have to give up the bennies too. Not everyone fits so neatly into the hetero, or homo, box.
Again with the questions with obvious answers.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, husband and wife, just like me.
Yup, or husband and husband or wife and wife.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>As long as his partner is a woman, he gets the same marriage license as you and I.
Heís gay, that makes it a lie
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Valid based on what? A state could grant two same sex adult siblings a license too. The state can grant any license it so chooses.
Which state? Mine, yours, someone elseís?
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>What is that interest based on, at its most fundamental basis? The union of husband and wife, in essence the sexual union there of and what it produces. That is why marriage exists, not individual marriages, nor the motive as to why people marry, but the recognition of the institution itself. Otherwise, why would it matter who marries who?
What matters is that they have the desire to marry. Because they want to make a life long commitment to each other.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>okayyyyyyyyy Huh? What in the name of Francis Albert Sinatra, are ya talking about SheeVoH?
Animal behavior. In several species a new male may enter a social group and if heís big enough and bad enough he kills off the previous dominant male and all of his offspring, making room for his own. Cats are a prime example. At one time in our development it is likely that something similar was rather commonplace. But weíve advanced continuously to the point weíve reached today and will continue to advance. Most of us donít think conquering a village and enslaving the survivors & taking the women as mating partners is okay. I hope.

Since: Mar 09

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#188138 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
Part 2
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Cute that you should mention a fish and women in the same sentence. At lease you didn't call it a red tuna. The point is men and women are different. A gay man, regardless of how manly or girly he may be, uses the same bathroom as you or I. A lesbian woman, regardless of how butchie she may be, or femmine, goes to the gynecologist, not the proctologist.
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It is what it is.
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It is what it is, agreed.
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That's not the main goal. There is a byproduct of sexual relations between men and women, they're called children. Marriage serves as societies mean of connecting men, and women, with not only each other, but with what ever children they may have. Its not simply about the adults. If sex didn't make babies, why would it matter who married who, are even recognize marriage at all? Why prohibit blood relatives from marrying?
Spank me and call me sally. Women don't seek care from proctologists! Ya learns sumfing new evruh day! Men and women are different. Yes, this is why I'm attracted to women and gay men are attracted to men. Otherwise we'd all be hermaphrodites like earth worms.

When I asked my wife to marry me both of us had previously agreed that having children wasn't in our future. We're probably in a small minority but out intentions were set before the wedding. One of the things I was interested in was seeing to it that should something happen to me, she wasn't left with a nightmare of legal wrangling to take possession of all that was ours. And be able to do so with no taxation of the exchange. I've got at least one sibling that may be of the kind to have made a grab for his share if something happened to me. Wills can be contested and are a PITA. Marriage makes the problem go away. There is also a fair disparity in our income. I'm a licensed professional with a post graduate degree and she's a high school grad in clerical work. My income is about three times her's. What happens with social security should I pass first? These are just a couple of the problems a marriage license takes care of.
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188139 Apr 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Spank me and call me sally. Women don't seek care from proctologists! Ya learns sumfing new evruh day! Men and women are different. Yes, this is why I'm attracted to women and gay men are attracted to men. Otherwise we'd all be hermaphrodites like earth worms.
When I asked my wife to marry me both of us had previously agreed that having children wasn't in our future. We're probably in a small minority but out intentions were set before the wedding. One of the things I was interested in was seeing to it that should something happen to me, she wasn't left with a nightmare of legal wrangling to take possession of all that was ours. And be able to do so with no taxation of the exchange. I've got at least one sibling that may be of the kind to have made a grab for his share if something happened to me. Wills can be contested and are a PITA. Marriage makes the problem go away. There is also a fair disparity in our income. I'm a licensed professional with a post graduate degree and she's a high school grad in clerical work. My income is about three times her's. What happens with social security should I pass first? These are just a couple of the problems a marriage license takes care of.
I make beautiful kids:)

Since: Mar 09

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#188140 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>I make beautiful kids:)
You never responded to my question...

How many homosexuals do you know in more than just passing, there's one down the hall at my office, kind of way? Ones you know and socialise with in a fashion where you really know them well.

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#188141 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>I make beautiful kids:)
I forgot to ask, you have children?
Micross

Covina, CA

#188142 Apr 10, 2013
Still making it a mess on this site are ya?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188143 Apr 10, 2013
Cat Purrs wrote:
<quoted text> You two slime balls gettin along just dandy.
Aw don't be so mean and jealous of Jizzy and Big D! They dumped you. Deal with it.
CEQA2013

Covina, CA

#188145 Apr 10, 2013
CEQA does need reform.
Developers should pay fees to a fund that counties and cities then use to hire qualified consultants with.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#188146 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Strangely for some reason I have a southern accent. Its not very heavy but its noticeable. I don't know why, I've lived in western NY my whole life. All the members of my family are oklahoma aboriginis, they don't really have accents but I do. I don't know, its weird.lol
hmmmm strange kids out of wedlock to fiance brother... you nasty

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#188147 Apr 10, 2013
Lilith_SatansWhore wrote:
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This rocks... now this moron thinks i'm three logins..... LOL
You are at least a three-logger.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#188148 Apr 10, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>hmmmm strange kids out of wedlock to fiance brother... you nasty
Ooops, make that a four-logger. Maybe you should try for the whole tree and get in the Guinness Book of World Records as biggest loghole ever.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#188149 Apr 10, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Ooops, make that a four-logger. Maybe you should try for the whole tree and get in the Guinness Book of World Records as biggest loghole ever.
must such for you being all thats left of the afterbirth and all

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#188154 Apr 11, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I followed the Proposition 8 case very closely and I don't remember reading that Judge Walker used his dick a single time in making his decision.
Moron...
Three heterosexual appellate court judges agreed with Walker...
Didn't we have this conversation already?
A gay judge siding with a gay issue and back up by a Court that has more reversals than an old fork lift. In CA.

Didn't we have this conversation already???

Snicker.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188156 Apr 11, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Burning at the stake? Barbaric. Slavery? A document. Christians? Cruelty to animals.
Well if you think tradition is always good... it isnít

You asked why we stopped
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188157 Apr 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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A gay judge siding with a gay issue and back up by a Court that has more reversals than an old fork lift. In CA.
Didn't we have this conversation already???
Snicker.
Nope one reversal, and a majority of justices that have reviewed the case ( that donít happen to be gay by the way ) have agreed.

9 more justices are about to weigh in.

The problem is that the supporters of Prop 8 keep appealing higher even though they have lost every time to date
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188158 Apr 11, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Yes, put to the people, shot down, and overturned, again. There is no "large support" of the people, this is a demonstrable lie. The minority that had defied the will of the people will, again, do the same.
then yopu wont have to worry that it will go straight back on the ballot to overturn prop 8 if the Supreme court doesnt do the right thing and kill it :)

Cause that is exactly what will happen.

An the polls already show prop 8 would be stuck down easily if the vote were to happen now. I think you are watching Faux news

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#188159 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Agreed H&M. It does make for an interesting psychological study. If a woman is sexually attracted to another woman, why would she choose a very masculine woman? No disrespect intended, just puzzled. The plumbing has got to be the primary reason. Yes?
Oy... Another armchair psychologist...

Why does a person's attractions to another person vex you so much? Why do you believe it's any of your business?

If a woman is attracted to a woman or a man is attracted to a man, it in no way impacts their ability to live a full, healthy, productive life.

My attraction to men has never gotten in the way of my going to work and doing my job. It didn't impact my ability to get my education. I can take care of myself--even take care of others.

Once I recognized that I could not change my attractions--once I just accepted the way God had made me--I settled into life just fine.

But for some reason you feel the need to ponder why it is that some lesbians (not all) enjoy being with "butch" women.

Basically, it's a question that doesn't deserve an answer. You might as well ask, "Why is grass green?" or "Why is water clear?" The answer--who cares?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188161 Apr 11, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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YUK!YUK!YUK!
I knew that would make you stop your silly boycott of Frankie.
But seriously, no one cares what some loudmouthed angry yenta from Joisey thinks about California politics. Butt out. Fix New Joisey. Talk to chubby Chris not us.
No one cares about what YOU think about ANYTHING, because you are obviously drug addled.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188162 Apr 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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A gay judge siding with a gay issue and back up by a Court that has more reversals than an old fork lift. In CA.
Didn't we have this conversation already???
Snicker.
Yes. And the Court snickered at you.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188163 Apr 11, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>must such for you being all thats left of the afterbirth and all
Wow! Witty.

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