Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,822

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188115 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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To a native New Yawka such as myself, Joisey's just an annoying bad joke.
When we were kids in Brooklyn and got caught with something illegal by the cops and they asked where we got it, the magic answer was "over in Joisey". Then the cops would just let us go with a warning to stay out the hell out of Joisey.
Yeah, their nasty. So you're from the new york city area of ny huh? Do you have the accent?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188117 Apr 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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There are a lot of cases that we're not supposed to hear about, such as crimes involving negro perpetrators, we are often not told when the perps are negroes.
Also we're not often told when the perp is an undocumented democrat.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#188119 Apr 10, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I hope you'll study the last question you raise in your post.
What, exactly, is the point of allow people to vote on such matters?
As far as I can tell from looking at the various propositions that have been voted on in CA since the early 70s there has never been such a proposition. It's unprecedented.
Just because a group of people get enough people to sign a petition to put an issue on the ballot does not mean that it should have been there in the first place.
And that was the decision of Judge Walker.
VeeVee

What did the people of California vote on, at its most basic level? To define, solidly, codify, the legal definition of marriage, which as been understood throughout the state since the birth of the state, as a union of one man and one woman as husband AND wife. That's it! Judge Walker who is gay, basically said, no way Jose.

That the whole issue in the most simplest terms  All this talk about rights, and bigotry, anti gays, rainbow flag waving, is just a bunch of noise.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188121 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, their nasty. So you're from the new york city area of ny huh? Do you have the accent?
No more accent. Was thick once. Toidy-toid and toid.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188122 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Also we're not often told when the perp is an undocumented democrat.
Nice Frankie...gave me a chuckle.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188128 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Nice Frankie...gave me a chuckle.
"Illegal aliens" is so judgmental! Let's just call them undocumented democrats. Which is more accurate anyway.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188129 Apr 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Burning at the stake? Barbaric. Slavery? A document. Christians? Cruelty to animals.
Big D is such a drama queen!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188130 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I have a terrible sense of humor, unfortunately most of the jokes I know and enjoy are not for ... polite company :)
My brothers and I... we find humor in just about everything, and nothing is sacred
I did enjoy that one of yours.
You know why some girls start going to church? They heard there was a white guy hung like this ( arms outstretched )
Bill had just returned from visiting Hillary in the hospital after her concussion, a reporter asked how her head was. "Not as good as Monica's."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188131 Apr 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Effectively separating yourselves from the OTHER "short bus kids"..."Oh, no, those are the freaks, we are the cool ones"
Some marriages are more equal than others in paradise.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188132 Apr 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Bill had just returned from visiting Hillary in the hospital after her concussion, a reporter asked how her head was. "Not as good as Monica's."
More accurately Bill quipped "She's no Monica."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188133 Apr 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Bill had just returned from visiting Hillary in the hospital after her concussion, a reporter asked how her head was. "Not as good as Monica's."
I bet that chubby choo choo gave good head! Had Bill's DNA splattered everywhere.
Grumpy

Covina, CA

#188134 Apr 10, 2013
It's a never matter event, anyway.
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188135 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No more accent. Was thick once. Toidy-toid and toid.
Strangely for some reason I have a southern accent. Its not very heavy but its noticeable. I don't know why, I've lived in western NY my whole life. All the members of my family are oklahoma aboriginis, they don't really have accents but I do. I don't know, its weird.lol

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188136 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Si if homosexuality is not a mental disorder, are those other sexualiites also not disorders?
Why do you bother asking these questions? I wasn’t aware that these other sexual orientations were considered disorders.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>One does not need a marriage license do that, nor is there a state obligation to recognize any, and all, adult personal intimate relationships.
You’re wandering away from the purpose of getting a marriage license. One desires to be married to the partner of their choosing and reaping the benefits of such an arrangement. I do believe couples who marry are more apt to stay together than couples who simply cohabitate.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>"Access to marriage"? The historic, legal, cultural, and/or religious conjugal marriage of husband and wife, present across time and place? So your suggestion is we should alter that concept so two men/women can have a contract with each other, recognized nationwide. Is that a fair assessment?
Another question you need not ask. The answer should be obvious. Legal contract, yes. Religious, maybe but not necessarily. Nationwide recognition so the legal aspects are uniform across the country.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>"Us heterosexuals"? How about us men AND women regardless of self identified sexual orientation. A opposite sex mixed orientation couple would also have to give up the bennies too. Not everyone fits so neatly into the hetero, or homo, box.
Again with the questions with obvious answers.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, husband and wife, just like me.
Yup, or husband and husband or wife and wife.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>As long as his partner is a woman, he gets the same marriage license as you and I.
He’s gay, that makes it a lie
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Valid based on what? A state could grant two same sex adult siblings a license too. The state can grant any license it so chooses.
Which state? Mine, yours, someone else’s?
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>What is that interest based on, at its most fundamental basis? The union of husband and wife, in essence the sexual union there of and what it produces. That is why marriage exists, not individual marriages, nor the motive as to why people marry, but the recognition of the institution itself. Otherwise, why would it matter who marries who?
What matters is that they have the desire to marry. Because they want to make a life long commitment to each other.
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>okayyyyyyyyy Huh? What in the name of Francis Albert Sinatra, are ya talking about SheeVoH?
Animal behavior. In several species a new male may enter a social group and if he’s big enough and bad enough he kills off the previous dominant male and all of his offspring, making room for his own. Cats are a prime example. At one time in our development it is likely that something similar was rather commonplace. But we’ve advanced continuously to the point we’ve reached today and will continue to advance. Most of us don’t think conquering a village and enslaving the survivors & taking the women as mating partners is okay. I hope.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188138 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
Part 2
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Cute that you should mention a fish and women in the same sentence. At lease you didn't call it a red tuna. The point is men and women are different. A gay man, regardless of how manly or girly he may be, uses the same bathroom as you or I. A lesbian woman, regardless of how butchie she may be, or femmine, goes to the gynecologist, not the proctologist.
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It is what it is.
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It is what it is, agreed.
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That's not the main goal. There is a byproduct of sexual relations between men and women, they're called children. Marriage serves as societies mean of connecting men, and women, with not only each other, but with what ever children they may have. Its not simply about the adults. If sex didn't make babies, why would it matter who married who, are even recognize marriage at all? Why prohibit blood relatives from marrying?
Spank me and call me sally. Women don't seek care from proctologists! Ya learns sumfing new evruh day! Men and women are different. Yes, this is why I'm attracted to women and gay men are attracted to men. Otherwise we'd all be hermaphrodites like earth worms.

When I asked my wife to marry me both of us had previously agreed that having children wasn't in our future. We're probably in a small minority but out intentions were set before the wedding. One of the things I was interested in was seeing to it that should something happen to me, she wasn't left with a nightmare of legal wrangling to take possession of all that was ours. And be able to do so with no taxation of the exchange. I've got at least one sibling that may be of the kind to have made a grab for his share if something happened to me. Wills can be contested and are a PITA. Marriage makes the problem go away. There is also a fair disparity in our income. I'm a licensed professional with a post graduate degree and she's a high school grad in clerical work. My income is about three times her's. What happens with social security should I pass first? These are just a couple of the problems a marriage license takes care of.
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188139 Apr 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Spank me and call me sally. Women don't seek care from proctologists! Ya learns sumfing new evruh day! Men and women are different. Yes, this is why I'm attracted to women and gay men are attracted to men. Otherwise we'd all be hermaphrodites like earth worms.
When I asked my wife to marry me both of us had previously agreed that having children wasn't in our future. We're probably in a small minority but out intentions were set before the wedding. One of the things I was interested in was seeing to it that should something happen to me, she wasn't left with a nightmare of legal wrangling to take possession of all that was ours. And be able to do so with no taxation of the exchange. I've got at least one sibling that may be of the kind to have made a grab for his share if something happened to me. Wills can be contested and are a PITA. Marriage makes the problem go away. There is also a fair disparity in our income. I'm a licensed professional with a post graduate degree and she's a high school grad in clerical work. My income is about three times her's. What happens with social security should I pass first? These are just a couple of the problems a marriage license takes care of.
I make beautiful kids:)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188140 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>I make beautiful kids:)
You never responded to my question...

How many homosexuals do you know in more than just passing, there's one down the hall at my office, kind of way? Ones you know and socialise with in a fashion where you really know them well.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188141 Apr 10, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>I make beautiful kids:)
I forgot to ask, you have children?
Micross

Covina, CA

#188142 Apr 10, 2013
Still making it a mess on this site are ya?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188143 Apr 10, 2013
Cat Purrs wrote:
<quoted text> You two slime balls gettin along just dandy.
Aw don't be so mean and jealous of Jizzy and Big D! They dumped you. Deal with it.

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