Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,397

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188080 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmmm....32 U.S. states have constituionally defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman, there's only 50 states in the union...so at some point unless there is a change in the constitutional states, or the Supreme Court imposes SSM nationwide, more than half the country will be conjugal husband and wife states. SSM has a limit,
Tell me about the Full Faith and Credit Clause.....

How can SCOTUS justify a couple being legally married in one State, but not in another?
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188081 Apr 10, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>is it disel perfume for you today mixed with marlboro smoke... that oughta get your redneck brother fiance excited eeh
No its more like Seneca full flavors and chainsaw oil! Still stinking of whiskey, cheese, and hooker spit!? I'm sure you are!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188082 Apr 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think that "the people" can just draw up any ol' petition and vote on it, eh? Are you forgetting about Judicial Review, or did youi never learn it in the first place?
No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#188083 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?
I hope you'll study the last question you raise in your post.

What, exactly, is the point of allow people to vote on such matters?

As far as I can tell from looking at the various propositions that have been voted on in CA since the early 70s there has never been such a proposition. It's unprecedented.

Just because a group of people get enough people to sign a petition to put an issue on the ballot does not mean that it should have been there in the first place.

And that was the decision of Judge Walker.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188084 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever...you're just a bigot...a plain old bigot.
She (Pole Dancer) has a card. Therefore she can be as bigoted as she feels and not be a bigot.

P.S. I don't have a card.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188085 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?
Pay no attention to "Xavier Breath" butting in, the big loudmouthed dopey yenta.

He's in Joisey and has absolutely no business butting his 2 cents in California politics. But of course that doesn't stop him from loudly spouting off dumb spiteful nonsense.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188086 Apr 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me about the Full Faith and Credit Clause.....
How can SCOTUS justify a couple being legally married in one State, but not in another?
They don't get to justify it. It's none of their business.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188087 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?
Because it's the California way. Even their own Supreme Court said California should revisit their stupid voter initiative laws. Let them waste their time and money passing unconstitutional laws..... go ahead.....
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188088 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
They don't get to justify it. It's none of their business.
Really? None of their business, eh? ahahahahahahahahahahahah
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#188089 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay no attention to "Xavier Breath" butting in, the big loudmouthed dopey yenta.
He's in Joisey and has absolutely no business butting his 2 cents in California politics. But of course that doesn't stop him from loudly spouting off dumb spiteful nonsense.
At least I'm not saying anything as STUPID as "it's none of their business." You are stoned.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188090 Apr 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Really? None of their business, eh? ahahahahahahahahahahahah
YUK!YUK!YUK!

I knew that would make you stop your silly boycott of Frankie.

But seriously, no one cares what some loudmouthed angry yenta from Joisey thinks about California politics. Butt out. Fix New Joisey. Talk to chubby Chris not us.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188091 Apr 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
At least I'm not saying anything as STUPID as "it's none of their business." You are stoned.
YUK!YUK!YUK! You mad jackass?

P.S. My state of sobriety is as irrelevant as some angry jackass yenta from Joisey's is.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188092 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmmm....32 U.S. states have constituionally defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman, there's only 50 states in the union...so at some point unless there is a change in the constitutional states, or the Supreme Court imposes SSM nationwide, more than half the country will be conjugal husband and wife states. SSM has a limit,
<quoted text>
California proved the people have no say, the constituional process the people followed, the rule of law proved to be a farce. What is the point of having the process, if the result is a federal judge over rules the people of the state?
yeah used to be 50, now it is 32 and falling

California proved that anyone can put any crap on a ballot if they have the money,

if the supreme court fails to do the right thing what is going to be your line when it is put on the ballot again and prop 8 goes down in flames, an out of state organization saw a quickly closing window and capitalized on it, if put on the ballot today Prop 8 would have zero chance and I suspect you know that.

So don’t make me laugh about the “”will of the people” I have that on my side, that and justice as well
Mike Nor Cal

San Ramon, CA

#188093 Apr 10, 2013
Good job SKG of Harbor City. I feel the same way!
I just wish people would care as much about that NimRod in the White House. We need to band together. We cannot let him or anyone else strip us of our second Ammendment. Please call your local criminal in office and let our voices be heard! We are NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!
God Bless this once Great Nation, so it may again be The Greatest Place on Earth...
A-A-A

Covina, CA

#188094 Apr 10, 2013
No parking?

No shopping.

The City of Glendora tries to make money from parking tickets?

I will not shop downtown village again.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188095 Apr 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Because it's the California way. Even their own Supreme Court said California should revisit their stupid voter initiative laws. Let them waste their time and money passing unconstitutional laws..... go ahead.....
Thank you for sharing those thoughts, however dumb, angry, biased and unrequested.

However we don't need some dopey yenta from Joisey butting in with his dumb 2 cents.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188096 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah used to be 50, now it is 32 and falling
California proved that anyone can put any crap on a ballot if they have the money,
if the supreme court fails to do the right thing what is going to be your line when it is put on the ballot again and prop 8 goes down in flames, an out of state organization saw a quickly closing window and capitalized on it, if put on the ballot today Prop 8 would have zero chance and I suspect you know that.
So don’t make me laugh about the “”will of the people” I have that on my side, that and justice as well

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#188099 Apr 10, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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have you communicated these thoughts and ideas to the legal team that's defending either Prop 8 or DOMA?
oh wait...it's too late. they've stated their case. guess you missed that boat.
the government inserted itself into marriage once it ordered there to be licenses and then offered legal recognition of marriages. whether you agree with the government being allowed to do that is moot - it's been done that way for many many years. you live here and in doing so, you agree to follow the law. if you want to utilize those proviliges extended to married couples, you have to be legally married. of course, you might have more reasons to get married, i wouldn't know and don't really care what those reasons are. they're none of my business.
whether you and others like you don't like the fact that same sex couples can legally marry isn't at issue - it does not matter to the law, SCOTUS or frankly, anyone else. it'll be up to you to deal with those negative issues you've given yourself by disliking same sex marriage, not anyone else.
but then again, you certainly have the right to start a law suit to strike down what the judges will find in regards to Prop 8 & DOMA. you can then utilize all these arguments you've tossed out up here and see how far that goes in having same sex marriage rulings overturned. let us know how it's going for you.
Honey, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I have any desire to be one.

I do have an interest in reality. Reality says marriage and ss couples are distinct. No one can change that. No one.

You know that. Nothing will change that. Nothing.

Smile.
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#188100 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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YUK!YUK!YUK!
I knew that would make you stop your silly boycott of Frankie.
But seriously, no one cares what some loudmouthed angry yenta from Joisey thinks about California politics. Butt out. Fix New Joisey. Talk to chubby Chris not us.
I think its more like Guido! Yuk New Jersians are all a bunch of trashy, overly tan morons, they all idolize the Jersey Shore retauds it really speaks for their intellectual capabilities!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#188102 Apr 10, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you'll study the last question you raise in your post.
What, exactly, is the point of allow people to vote on such matters?
As far as I can tell from looking at the various propositions that have been voted on in CA since the early 70s there has never been such a proposition. It's unprecedented.
Just because a group of people get enough people to sign a petition to put an issue on the ballot does not mean that it should have been there in the first place.
And that was the decision of Judge Walker.
'gay' judge walker.

I'm surprised.

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