Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Obskeptic

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Apr 9, 2013
 
CA chamber of Commece wrote:
California chamber of commerce is nothing more than a right-wing lobbying organization, red neck and all, RNC, GOP, Republican and tea party snot holes.
Don't you ever get tired of being perpetually outraged? Are you just predisposed to be an angry person that enjoys demonizing everything that you disagree with? Your stereotyping with an awful broad brush full of lies hypocrite.
Why

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Why do we need gay marriage now when we never needed it before, and nobody on earth complained about that for seven-thousand-plus years? Why now?
Obskeptic

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Could someone, a SSMer, please explain where do we, as a society, draw the line, in defining marriage? At what point, does it become pointless?
Monogamous conjugal marriage proponents advocate maintaining the legal definition of marriage as a union of husband and wife.
SSM proponents advocate defining marriage as a union of (two) spouses for life, regardless of gender composition.
Plural conjugal marriage practitioners advocate for the inclusion of plural marriage in the legal definition.
Polyamorists, incest.....
Where is the line drawn?
The line has already been drawn by the gay rights lobby, and its right at their feet, with traditional marriage on their side of the line, and the rest of the perverted concepts of marriage on the other. Don't question them or challenge them because they are the ones that have the self appointed authority to dictate to the rest of us what we can and cannot believe. You must accept their argument, because it's their argument, and they are always right. Just ask them.
Dorn

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Apr 9, 2013
 

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Legalizing same sex marriage is not only the right thing to do, but it will make it safe (safer) for gays to come out of the closet
Frankie Rizzo

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Apr 9, 2013
 
A Most Interesting Man wrote:
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Like I said,Who? Or how about a good Yuk,yuk,yuk? You are a frigging whack job! Yuk,yuk,yuk,yuk,yuk!
Who? You, silly! "$3 Bill"! "Old SniffsButt Bill"! War hero!

You need thorazine! A 55 gallon drum! Administered anally! The nurse is ready Alzheimer's boy!

YUK!YUK!YUK!YUK! Bill of a thousand sock puppets.

P.S. Can we get a "Shut your piehole!"?
Frankie Rizzo

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#187781
Apr 9, 2013
 
Pietro Armando wrote:
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He has, on numerous occasions, but its ether ignored or accurately addressed by the other side.
That's just dopey Old SniffsButt Bill. AKA $3 Bill. Never posted anything of substance ever. But that doesn't stop him or his thousand sock puppets from whining about other posters being off topic. He's very silly like that.
Anonymous

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Sparkle wrote:
<quoted text>i'm sure lung cancer is too
Well I have lung cancer, and you have cervical cancer. Such a tragedy!
Big D

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Pietro Armando wrote:
Judged:111
Could someone, a SSMer, please explain where do we, as a society, draw the line, in defining marriage? At what point, does it become pointless?
Monogamous conjugal marriage proponents advocate maintaining the legal definition of marriage as a union of husband and wife.
SSM proponents advocate defining marriage as a union of (two) spouses for life, regardless of gender composition.
Plural conjugal marriage practitioners advocate for the inclusion of plural marriage in the legal definition.
Polyamorists, incest.....
Where is the line drawn?
The line is drawn legally, it stops at religious definitions.

For example there are quite a number of marriages performed by one religion or another that are not actually marriages legally.

That is why this question is before a court of law, not a religious pow-wow or conclave.

That is ultimately up to the will of the people, and the rule of law. Prop 8 was passed by a small margin, but was challenged on constitutional grounds, overturned but a stay put on the results.

The situation is now reversed, put on a ballot again today Prop 8 would be overturned easily, and it is actually the courts that are the blocking point.

Ultimately if there was not large public support for Same Sex marriage this would not be happening.

Not based on history, not based on tradition, not based on pseudo-science and the often misguided references here to evolution, or any ancient books, but by the rule of law, and ultimately the will of the people.

That is why even your most famous right win pundit has thrown in the towel on the issue.

All your concerns about Poly and Incest and so forth are at the same whim, the will of the people and the rule of law.

I cannot predict the will of the people in the future, all I have there is opinion.

Poly… probably at some point
Incest… doubtful in the foreseeable future

But it isn’t up to me to decide what future generations want to do or not.
Frankie Rizzo

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Big D wrote:
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The line is drawn legally, it stops at religious definitions.
For example there are quite a number of marriages performed by one religion or another that are not actually marriages legally.
That is why this question is before a court of law, not a religious pow-wow or conclave.
That is ultimately up to the will of the people, and the rule of law. Prop 8 was passed by a small margin, but was challenged on constitutional grounds, overturned but a stay put on the results.
The situation is now reversed, put on a ballot again today Prop 8 would be overturned easily, and it is actually the courts that are the blocking point.
Ultimately if there was not large public support for Same Sex marriage this would not be happening.
Not based on history, not based on tradition, not based on pseudo-science and the often misguided references here to evolution, or any ancient books, but by the rule of law, and ultimately the will of the people.
That is why even your most famous right win pundit has thrown in the towel on the issue.
All your concerns about Poly and Incest and so forth are at the same whim, the will of the people and the rule of law.
I cannot predict the will of the people in the future, all I have there is opinion.
Poly… probably at some point
Incest… doubtful in the foreseeable future
But it isn’t up to me to decide what future generations want to do or not.
Liberals "evolve", conservatives "throw in the towel".

Priceless!
heartandmind

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Apr 9, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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They can't be. It is impossible.
It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.
There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.
Smile.
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No honey, those are facts.
That is why it pierces you so deeply.
It simply exposes the denial that permeates our culture.
Another fact is that reality has a mean bitch slap for denial.
Get ready.
Snicker.
well, sunshine, that's your OPINION. nothing more, nothing less. and you're entitled to it.

however, the judges in the Prop 8 trial disagree with you - and the attornies from your side couldn't present anything to justify barring same sex marriage.

did you send them your letters containing all your opinions and offerings of help? i'm sure they could've used your words and help.(snicker)

sorry, sunshine, you're going to be sucking eggs soon enough, come sometime in June when SCOTUS hands down it's rulings. you might want to get mentally and emotionally prepared for reading wedding announcements in your local paper of your neighboring same sex couples. it's ok. you can vent here. no one will care what you say.

good luck.
Big D

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Liberals "evolve", conservatives "throw in the towel".
Priceless!
Perhaps you are not aware

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-poli...
Big D

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heartandmind wrote:
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well, sunshine, that's your OPINION. nothing more, nothing less. and you're entitled to it.
however, the judges in the Prop 8 trial disagree with you - and the attornies from your side couldn't present anything to justify barring same sex marriage.
did you send them your letters containing all your opinions and offerings of help? i'm sure they could've used your words and help.(snicker)
sorry, sunshine, you're going to be sucking eggs soon enough, come sometime in June when SCOTUS hands down it's rulings. you might want to get mentally and emotionally prepared for reading wedding announcements in your local paper of your neighboring same sex couples. it's ok. you can vent here. no one will care what you say.
good luck.
It doesn’t ultimately matter what SCOTUS does, if they do the right thing and prop 8 is overturned... it is over

If they do the wrong thing and Prop 8 is upheld, we easily pass a ballot measure overturning Prop 8 wiht the majority of voters in California supporting same sex marriage.. and it is over

It is going down the toilet one way or the other... only a matter of time now.
heartandmind

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Orrrrrrrrr...."there's an opposite couple, my mom and dad are/were an opposite sex couple, and they had sex and made me"
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I don't know about u, but if my mom and dad hadn't had sex, I wouldn't be here.
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If no one wanted sex, would marriage exist?
so you admit then that it is a very public statement of what a straight couple prefers - in effect, throwing it in everyone's face whereever they go & wear their wedding rings.

hey, that's just one way to look at it. i don't, but, at it's worst, it could be taken that way.

interesting question you pose. marriage began as a method by which to join clans or to increase the wealth of one tribe (clan), hence the dowery. marriage pre-dates christianity. now, in modern times, it seems that everyone has sex outside of marriage. so it's not a reason to get marriage any longer. very interesting question indeed. probably the best one i've seen you pose.
Big D

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heartandmind wrote:
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so you admit then that it is a very public statement of what a straight couple prefers - in effect, throwing it in everyone's face whereever they go & wear their wedding rings.
hey, that's just one way to look at it. i don't, but, at it's worst, it could be taken that way.
interesting question you pose. marriage began as a method by which to join clans or to increase the wealth of one tribe (clan), hence the dowery. marriage pre-dates christianity. now, in modern times, it seems that everyone has sex outside of marriage. so it's not a reason to get marriage any longer. very interesting question indeed. probably the best one i've seen you pose.
Except the polls have already shown that a majority of heterosexual people support same sex marriage.

You need to internalize first that you are in the minority

I am a straight person, in a heterosexual marriage, as are my children, all of us support same sex marriage, the tide has turned, your opinion is now a minority opinion
Frankie Rizzo

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Big D wrote:
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Perhaps you are not aware
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-poli...
Looks like Limbaugh has evolved. Woops, forgot! Liberals "evolve", conservatives "throw in the towel"!

Looks like Limbaugh has "thrown in the towel"!

P.S. You should be happy and congratulate him.
Frankie Rizzo

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Big D wrote:
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Except the polls have already shown that a majority of heterosexual people support same sex marriage.
You need to internalize first that you are in the minority
I am a straight person, in a heterosexual marriage, as are my children, all of us support same sex marriage, the tide has turned, your opinion is now a minority opinion
It seems that the part that makes you happy is with your opponents being "wrong". Rather than with homosexuals getting equal protection.
Big D

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Looks like Limbaugh has evolved. Woops, forgot! Liberals "evolve", conservatives "throw in the towel"!
Looks like Limbaugh has "thrown in the towel"!
P.S. You should be happy and congratulate him.
I never said he evolved, he has the same stupid opinion he did before stating that... he didn’t evolve, he is throwing in the towel on the issue even though he hates it.

read it again

Do you have to have everything explained to you repeatedly, If you want to be in a conversation you need to have just a little comprehension… just a tiny bit would be nice.
CA chamber of Commece

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Yes the CA chamber of commerce is more of a anchor around the necks of any and all small businesses located in California an or the USA.
Big D

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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It seems that the part that makes you happy is with your opponents being "wrong". Rather than with homosexuals getting equal protection.
Incorrect.. I am more happy that justice is being done for all Americans regardless of Race, Creed, Color, Sex, Religion, Orientation or National Origin

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Why wrote:
Why do we need gay marriage now when we never needed it before, and nobody on earth complained about that for seven-thousand-plus years? Why now?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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