Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Now, the second issue. The "Bait-n-Switch". Blame the issue on us, for even having the institution of Marriage. Cute. Faulty, but cute. We have embraced the institution of marriage through tradition, the same tradition that Big D likes to shit on, whenever he feels like it. Why do you wish to join in on something that is not for you? Because you see that some may benefit from it, and you feel "left out". You do not mind the poly's and the incest's being left out, though, do you? No.We set up the institute for the benefit of parents rights and to protect the family unit, which means the "natural" family unit, but has since widened to include the family unit that contains adopted children. Cool. Now, in order to get what you want, you are ready, willing and able to appropriate the children to further your ends, in spite of the fact that children need the balance provided by a mother and a father. you do not care that you are willing to sacrifice the well-being of children to grasp something that you think you should have, even though we set that up to benefit "natural" families. You could have drawn up legal contracts to allow SSC's to have most of the same rights that natural families get, without having to claim the time-honored title of "Married", but then, you would feel like there was something about your relationships that isn't quite square with the rest of us, and in that, you would be correct. SSC might be legal, but they do not contain the same ingredients that Hetero couples do. Not our fault that you wish to make a souffle, but are only producing omelets. Hell, one of your hero's, Chongo, claims that equal rights are being violated by not saying that men and women are the same. It is to laugh. Perhaps, then, we should do away with labels on public lavatories? And in the schools? Some of your side are even indecent enough to think that men, going through sex change operations, but not yet changed, may use the opposite locker rooms to change clothes in. Public flaunting of all that is decent and right.
Lastly, "Science, medicine, and the legal system HAVE determined that incest is both illegal and a disorder." is a flat out lie. There is no such finding, anywhere, that incest is a disorder. Would it be a disorder if the siblings were not aware that they were siblings? Of course not. Please do not produce more propaganda, we have enough of that already, whenever we hear that "more Americans are supporting SSM every day". Pure BS. These supporters do not exist. They are lies
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I will add one thing to my response above... If incestuous marriages "might" result from allowing same-gender marriage; why is it that incestuous marriages didn't spring forth from the legalization of heterosexual marriages?
Because, like homo marriage, someone deemed it naughty, and unworthy. Why else?

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Of course, you must realize that incest and polygamy are in exactly the same situation as homosexual marriage was, only a few years ago, namely, illegal and stigmatized. Surely, you cannot argue this point? We used to have Sodomy laws on the books, and then, due to lobbying, this was changed.
Putting men in jail to get them to stop having sex with each other.
Hmmmm...let's call that "Plan B".
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Now, of course, we can both agree that all were on the law books because someone had the idea that they were in a position to dictate who may marry whom, according to what they believed was right, but in full denial of the individuals right to choose for themselves. This was wrong, as has been pointed out by your side, to have someone else dictate what is right for me, or you. To indicate that it is "slippery slope" to allow incestuous or polygamous marriage is to deny the logical implication that we all should be allowed to decide for ourselves who we wish to marry. You wish to infer that these marriages are "icky", while promoting the idea that you have a right to choose who may marry whom, and you further wish to separate yourselves from a "freak-show", although you ignore the fact that we see SSM as the same freak-show.
LOL. Speaking of freak show, did Topix ban you because you refused to take that pic of your face back down?
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You see yourselves as the noble freedom fighters for the rights to marry who you wish, and yet, see any others in the exact same situation as "icky". Do you not see, are you unable to see, that this is a serious double standard, on your part? You claim the right to choose your own mates, and yet, use the argument "polygamy and incest are illegal" so glibly, when only a few years ago, you, yourselves, suffered the exact same fate. You were able to change this, and claim that you were being discriminated against, and now, you look down your nose upon others whose fight is for nothing less than what you fought for. When your choice was illegal, it was wrong. When poly and incest are wrong, you shrug as if there is nothing wrong with that. You are acting as we did. How does it feel, to ignore the plight of another freedom fighter? It probably does not seem so strange to deny a coupling that you disapprove of, does it? Odd, how you run with the fox, then hunt with the hounds. I have news for you. We see your fight in the same terms as you see the poly and incest in. Namely, it is (or was) illegal, and there is nothing wrong with that, as it is not right. Welcome to our side, son, Welcome to being a bigot and a hater and a Communist. Labels, from your side. I'm sure that you recognize them, as we have had to receive them, so now you must. For the EXACT same reasons.
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Gay marriage is a simple equal rights issue.

Everybody has equal rights when it comes to getting married to more than one person.
Should everybody be able to marry more than one person?
Well, why not start a forum about polygamy and talk about it.

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Marriage and family took a devastating down turn the last time GOVERNMENT got involved. Then they removed the commitment of marriage, now you want the government to remove children from marriage.
It is your bigotry towards heterosexuals like that stated above that caused me to realize the pointlessness of meeting with you. Quit your whining and hypocrisy.
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No one has ever said that children would be removed from marriage. Rather, children will never be a requirement of marriage.
And how can you say that I have bigotry towards heterosexuals? Some of my best friends are heterosexuals.
See how easy it is to take a page from your book?
No, that claim eliminates children from the equation, making marriage merely a friendship.

Falsely blaming heterosexuals for the demise of marriage exposes your hatred and ignorance. Bigotry.

You have no pages from my play book.

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Are you sure you're old enough to be on here?
You are stupid and boring.
Now, go away.
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Yes there is, you monster.
Can you marry? By your own definition, you can't!
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You have tissue of both genders.
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It's clear from my pic I don't have to lose weight.
Do you think you should have been aborted?
What good are you?
During most of civilization, a monster like you would have just been left to die.
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It's clear, from your avatar, that you needed someone elses leg to use, as you are afraid to show your ugly mug. You best bet is to use "Assy McGee" as a tag.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Because, like homo marriage, someone deemed it naughty, and unworthy. Why else?
are you talkin about people in the christain faith.. i agree that is unworthy

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Is your brain made out of two populations of genetically distinct cells that don't communicate with each other? Is that why you are so dumb? Nobody is trying to remove children from marriage. Some couples will have children, some won't. Gay marriage won't change that.
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And some couples will have monsters they wish they had aborted.
Bummer, eh?
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1 Corinthians 14:34 (NJB)
women are to remain quiet in the assemblies, since they have no permission to speak: theirs is a subordinate part, as the Law itself says.

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<quoted text>Hey biatch ... does your fiance know you smoke three pacs of non filter a day... guess he would given he's yo older brother.
So says the drug addict.
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Lilith wrote:
<quoted text>Loser I ain't like your wife... i'm an escort and I keep very clean for my clients
Not for yourself? Not very hygienic, then? Just keeping the shelves wiped off?

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Now, the second issue. The "Bait-n-Switch". Blame the issue on us, for even having the institution of Marriage. Cute. Faulty, but cute. We have embraced the institution of marriage through tradition, the same tradition that Big D likes to shit on, whenever he feels like it. Why do you wish to join in on something that is not for you? Because you see that some may benefit from it, and you feel "left out". You do not mind the poly's and the incest's being left out, though, do you? No.We set up the institute for the benefit of parents rights and to protect the family unit, which means the "natural" family unit, but has since widened to include the family unit that contains adopted children. Cool. Now, in order to get what you want, you are ready, willing and able to appropriate the children to further your ends, in spite of the fact that children need the balance provided by a mother and a father. you do not care that you are willing to sacrifice the well-being of children to grasp something that you think you should have, even though we set that up to benefit "natural" families.
Rose's Law:
Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
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You could have drawn up legal contracts to allow SSC's to have most of the same rights that natural families get, without having to claim the time-honored title of "Married", but then, you would feel like there was something about your relationships that isn't quite square with the rest of us, and in that, you would be correct. SSC might be legal, but they do not contain the same ingredients that Hetero couples do. Not our fault that you wish to make a souffle, but are only producing omelets. Hell, one of your hero's, Chongo, claims that equal rights are being violated by not saying that men and women are the same. It is to laugh.
No two people are the same, think of a handsome man, intelligent, man vs you!
As different as you are, you should have the same rights.
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Perhaps, then, we should do away with labels on public lavatories? And in the schools? Some of your side are even indecent enough to think that men, going through sex change operations, but not yet changed, may use the opposite locker rooms to change clothes in. Public flaunting of all that is decent and right.
Lastly, "Science, medicine, and the legal system HAVE determined that incest is both illegal and a disorder." is a flat out lie. There is no such finding, anywhere, that incest is a disorder. Would it be a disorder if the siblings were not aware that they were siblings? Of course not. Please do not produce more propaganda, we have enough of that already, whenever we hear that "more Americans are supporting SSM every day". Pure BS. These supporters do not exist. They are lies
But more Americans are supporting SSM everyday. I'm glad that upsets you to the point you have to deny it.
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Dogs may eat poop out of the cat box, but they do have some standards. No dog would marry you.
You do realize that you have posted in an insightful and thoughtful way again don't you? Showing why your parents should have finished the abortion they started? In spite of all the gurgling that you made?
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If there isn't a forum about poly marriage, feel free to start one.
Really? Does he have your permission?

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1 Corinthians 14:34 (NJB)
women are to remain quiet in the assemblies, since they have no permission to speak: theirs is a subordinate part, as the Law itself says.
Ho, Ho, Ho.
The Buy-bull is full of nonsense.

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So says the drug addict.
sorry smoking is disgusting
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LILITH!!! What in god's name are you doing! You need to get your flabby toots down here to the brothel right now! Your best client Jimmy is here you know, the one with lobster syndrome who has a cleft eye. He wants you to queef the national anthem again, he says that's your best act! Now come on time is money!
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Is your brain made out of two populations of genetically distinct cells that don't communicate with each other? Is that why you are so dumb? Nobody is trying to remove children from marriage. Some couples will have children, some won't. Gay marriage won't change that.
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And some couples will have monsters they wish they had aborted.
Bummer, eh?
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Yeah, like your parents. Bet that they still cry themselves to sleep every night. "Oh" they must cry "Oh, if only our son had been normal".

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Marriage and family took a devastating down turn the last time GOVERNMENT got involved. Then they removed the commitment of marriage, now you want the government to remove children from marriage.
It is your bigotry towards heterosexuals like that stated above that caused me to realize the pointlessness of meeting with you. Quit your whining and hypocrisy.
SMile.
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No, that claim eliminates children from the equation, making marriage merely a friendship.
Falsely blaming heterosexuals for the demise of marriage exposes your hatred and ignorance. Bigotry.
You have no pages from my play book.
Snicker.
No, monster, many married couples are childless. That doesn't mean their marriages are merely friendships.
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<quoted text>Hey biatch ... does your fiance know you smoke three pacs of non filter a day... guess he would given he's yo older brother.
That's really cute, but I don't have a brother, only 2 sisters, sry to say strike 1, please try again!:)
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That's a clear lie.
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Well, a woman can marry a man, if you hold men and women equal, why don't you think a man should also be able to marry a man?
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Whatever.
I wasn't grunting and clicking at you. I won't give you a straight answer until you provide some, to the questions I asked you, many, many posts ago.

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