Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,794

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186840 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I donít have an frustration except I keep making the mistake of overestimating your reasoning capacity.
Do I have to explain it to you again? I would vote in favor of Poly marriage, I have not been arguing against it at all, you cannot separate in your pea brain discussion about an issue regarding it and the actual position.
You are like a village idiot with one foot nailed to the floor, running in circles and donít know what to do.
But while you run around in circles, more and more states and nations are recognizing same sex marriage. Hope that makes you happy as you claim it does.
Except, of course, when you are being "righteously" intolerant of people? Lightning bolts blasting out of your eyes, and shit? Kind of like Frylock?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186841 Apr 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Why is it so important to base this issue on history?
I can easily go back and find that major cultures and society utilized slavery from beginning to end. It's still an issue today--some 27,000,000 people are estimated to be enslaved today around the world.
But OUR society--our country--DOES NOT condone slavery.
If we were creating policy based on what history supported, then (using your argument) there should be legalized slavery in the U.S. today.
You cannot base your arguments about how gays have been treated throughout history as an argument for how we should be treated today.
We have modern medical findings and contemporary beliefs about gays and lesbians. THAT should be the basis for how we go forward.
Same-sex marriage SHOULD BE based on its own merits--not on how history has treated the matter.
Does history scare you? History has shown us that any society that casually allowed same sex coupling has disappeared. Greece, Rome, Turkish Empire, etc. Modern medical findings show us that the vagina and the penis are multi-use organs, and that a nasty old puckered-up anus is a single purpose organ. That should be the basis for any decisions to be made, concerning validation of marriage.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186842 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes they are, have you not seen them post here, frightened down to their socks.
Americans arenít of course, patriotic Americans are for freedom equality and justice, it is those that have a private little rule book that has nothing to do with US law that are acting like frightened little children.
Oh, you are just so very powerful, you scare us to bits. Go drink a semen cocktail. It is said to be empowering, right?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186843 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Are they on history again? Do they want to burn witches?
Protestants?
no, that's your boy, whining about history, which seems to scare him. Want to come to Ohio, and try a witch burning?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186844 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
The tired old Mighty D straw man, "you're not really for what you're arguing for, prove to me you're sincere instead of the topic so I can try to win"
Yeah, he's pathetic with that bit about "scared", and he talks about running around in circles, like he hasn't noticed that it's all he does. They're scared, he says, they are scared, they're scared, etc. And all that slop about how many of us support his side, except they don't. They are mighty hard to find, outside of Modesto. 90% of Americans are against SSM. No propaganda can disprove it, no matter how many "whack-a-doodle" sites they draw from.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186845 Apr 5, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I want you to videotape the ensuing fight between Big D and Frankie, for Youtube, you also said you'd invite him, and I'll bet that the fur will fly, when they get a couple of drinks in them.... My money's on the guy in the wheelchair.
I'm giving 4:1 odds.... Make sure that you give them both plenty of whiskey...
Thanks Mr. Hudson. I like George Dickel #12. Straight and room temperature.

Big D probably likes fruity wine coolers with little umbrellas and pineapple chunks.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186846 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what we do if we get all our values from history
History freed the slaves and gave women the vote, remember?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186847 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>why do you hate america
We don't. And if you loved America, you wouldn't be trying to take part in dismantling it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186848 Apr 5, 2013
Your Futures Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
Then please list the ways same sex marriage has damaged his marriage or anybody else's for that matter! Can't wait for this and please make these reasons one's that actually do and not the usual B.S. you're so famous for bigot boy! Talk about dense,you're at best laughable and at worst a major dic! Notice what,your fantom reasons?
Aw shuddup Bill you silly jackass!
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186849 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>why are you a faccist communist
Why are you, Lililth, allowed to pretend to have an opinion?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186850 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>if your for equal rights.. why do you bash those in favor of it
Because you're jackasses and hypocrites.

Hope that helps.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186851 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>why are you a faccist communist
And would you, please, define a Fascist Communist? Please use a proper definition, and not your opinion? Please include any contrast/comparisons to validate your definition? Kindly provide some concise examples of classic archetypes?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186852 Apr 5, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "Slippery Slope", Logical Implication. Please get it right.
Big D doesn't feel the need to cross that bridge.

Does that mean it's now OK for those against SSM to not feel the need to cross his bridge? I bet not.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186853 Apr 5, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
Waitadamnminute....Reproductio n = Procreation. And procreation has been dismissed, BY YOUR SIDE, as irrelevant to marriage. Next? Unwilling participations to sexual depravity have occurred in every arena of sexual orientation, not strictly to, and only within, the incest crowd. Next?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186854 Apr 5, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't. And if you loved America, you wouldn't be trying to take part in dismantling it.
Or committing crimes in it. Lilith's life is one big misdemeanor.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186855 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>so why are you a communist then
Oh, please. You cannot even define "Communist". Can you? ROFLMAO.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186856 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I like how you squirm and start out writing "I said race or gender"....lol....Did you forget the other part you wrote, fool. You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me. "or any other reason or difference" Not me. So now you are saying Marriage is about reproducing? and bro and sis can't marry because of that? What does gay marriage produce? Is that your issue now? You are hard to follow, all over the map. LOL
No, actually, he is quite easy. Just follow the convoluted, confused knot of self-contradictory, aimless, non-productive flopping. You'll find him, right there, in the middle of it.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186857 Apr 5, 2013
SkinTight wrote:
Prop 8 Hero's who donated in Glendora, CA
http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/
List of Hero's in Glendora, CA who donated $$$ to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign,
Greg Hendrix $250.00 11/03/08
Kenn Ramage $1,000.00 11/02/08
Robert Jones $100.00 11/02/08
Bernard Weber $100.00 10/31/08
John Andonian $200.00 10/31/08
Lynn Green $50.00 10/31/08
Cindy Mcclain $125.00 10/29/08
Doreen Costello $20.00 10/29/08
John Blenkinship $100.00 10/29/08
Karon Mackay $250.00 10/29/08
Michelle Mackay $500.00 10/29/08
Phyllis Wong $99.00 10/29/08
Thomas Marchetti $10.00 10/29/08
William Thompson $100.00 10/29/08
Alice Rubow $100.00 10/28/08
Desiree Ackerman $100.00 10/28/08
Jeffrey Murphy DDS $100.00 10/28/08
John Richards $200.00 10/28/08
Kristen White $250.00 10/28/08
Alex Lukes $45.00 10/27/08
Cathy Packer $100.00 10/27/08
Gregory Hendrix $200.00 10/27/08
Heather Giles $450.00 10/27/08
Lu Ann Jenson $100.00 10/27/08
Marilyn Batt $150.00 10/27/08
Sheryl Bell $100.00 10/27/08
Thomas Marchetti $10.00 10/27/08
Todd Giles $450.00 10/27/08
Hector Kistemann $100.00 10/26/08
Lori Sefton $500.00 10/26/08
Marie Pepe $100.00 10/26/08
James Watkins $500.00 10/25/08
Kathleen Szczepanski $100.00 10/24/08
Thomas Marchetti $25.00 10/24/08
Gregg Stowell $100.00 10/23/08
Heather Giles $9,500.00 10/23/08
Monica Macciola $50.00 10/23/08
Scott Duncan $100.00 10/23/08
Thomas Marchetti $14.00 10/23/08
Todd Russell $150.00 10/22/08
Alice Rubow $100.00 10/20/08
Cindy Mcclain $99.00 10/20/08
John Andonian $50.00 10/20/08
Lynn Green $100.00 10/20/08
Michael Smith $200.00 10/14/08
Orville Mestad $201.00 10/14/08
Timothy Butcher $250.00 10/11/08
Michael Mcdermott $250.00 10/10/08
Alice Rubow $250.00 10/09/08
Phil Martinez $100.00 10/09/08
Diego Dibenedetto $50.00 10/08/08
Julie Favro $99.00 10/08/08
Thomas Marchetti $10.00 10/08/08
Paul Jex $100.00 10/07/08
Alice Rubow $500.00 10/04/08
David Bishop $100.00 10/04/08
Thomas Marchetti $25.00 10/04/08
Dorothy Hatch $25,000.00 10/03/08
Kathryn Scott $300.00 10/03/08
Maria Berbee $100.00 10/03/08
William Thompson $100.00 10/03/08
Gaile Lawson $100.00 10/02/08
John Blenkinship $200.00 10/01/08
Jarold Laidlaw $500.00 09/30/08
Frank Macciol $100.00 09/26/08
Janell Hall $100.00 09/25/08
Bard Smith $200.00 09/24/08
Gary Blackburn $1,000.00 09/24/08
John Watkins $500.00 09/21/08
Bryan Chase $100.00 09/18/08
Don Kitchen $500.00 09/18/08
Stanley Gunstream $100.00 09/18/08
David Jackson $1,000.00 09/17/08
Henry Nichols $25.00 09/17/08
Kim Holmes $1,500.00 09/17/08
Kjelstrom & Associates, Inc.$1,000.00 09/17/08
Thomas Marchetti $25.00 09/17/08
Pamela Dupre $1,000.00 09/16/08
Ronald Willes $500.00 09/16/08
Alice Rubow $100.00 09/15/08
Diane Larson $500.00 09/14/08
Wiley Ogle $100.00 09/11/08
Julie Foth $1,000.00 09/10/08
June Hamlow $100.00 09/10/08
Sharilin Miller $1,000.00 09/10/08
Thomas Marchetti $10.00 09/10/08
Classic Floor Care, Inc.$250.00 09/09/08
Jae Walker $500.00 09/07/08
Marilyn Batt $250.00 09/07/08
Lynn Green $50.00 09/05/08
Robert Felten $100.00 09/05/08
John Phelan $250.00 09/04/08
Russell Corbett $1,000.00 09/03/08
Mark Hyer DDS $500.00 08/31/08
Miller & Hooker Cpa'S, Inc $500.00 08/31/08
Patrell Engineering Group, Inc.$1,000.00 08/31/08
Thomas Marchetti $25.00 08/29/08
Charlene Thomson $2,000.00 08/28/08
Henry Nichols $25.00 08/28/08
Melinda Hertzberg $500.00 08/28/08
Daniel O'Bryant $5,000.00 08/26/08
William Christiansen $100.00 08/26/08
William Raymond $1,000.00 08/26/08
Barbara Nelson $200.00 08/24/08
Katrina Bishop $250.00 08/21/08
Richard Kirkham $250.00 08/21/08
Robert Moehle $5,000.00 08/21/08
Ernest Jackson $500.00 08/20/08
Kaelene Petersen $100.00 08/20/08
Rebecca Hawkins $9,500.00 08/20/08
Ronna Gibson $500.00 08/20/08
Raymond Hertzberg $500.00 08/19/08
June Hambleton $1,000.00 08/17/08
Kendall Merkley $1,000.00 08/17/08
Stacey Segura $250.00 08/17/08
Thomas Marchetti $10.00 08/17/08
Davis Bench $100.00 08/14/08
Don Hunt $1,000.00 08/14/08
Douglas Bench $250.00 08/14/08
All Hero's.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186858 Apr 5, 2013
SkinTight wrote:
Prop 8 Hero'ss who donated in Glendora, CA
http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/
Hero's in Glendora, CA who donated $$$ to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign, how much and when:
Natalie Bench $200.00 08/14/08
W Douglas Steimle $2,500.00 08/14/08
Bard Smith $100.00 08/13/08
Douglas Bench $30.00 08/13/08
Jeffrey Murphy DDS $1,000.00 08/13/08
Lori Mcdonnel $1,000.00 08/13/08
Stephen Larson $250.00 08/12/08
Kjelstrom & Associates, Inc.$99.00 08/06/08
Thomas Marchetti $25.00 08/04/08
John Blenkinship $100.00 08/01/08
Thomas Marchetti $50.00 07/25/08
Robert Felten $100.00 05/22/08
Lillian Griffith $100.00 05/21/08
Lynn Green $50.00 03/17/08
Lynn Green $50.00 01/14/08
All hero's. Is this your attempt to publish a target package for all the haters on your side? Do you hope that these people will be targeted for harassment? Is that why you published their names?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186859 Apr 5, 2013
Randys Momma from beyond wrote:
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The constitution does not specifically disallow SSM, so it must be legal already.
It doesn't mention it. It is not a right. It is a privilige that has not been extended to the gays. Prop 8 reinforced that, but was unconstitutionally overturned by a biased judge. Failure to be mentioned in the Big C does not automatically grant such a privilege.

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