Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D wrote:
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Oh yes they are, have you not seen them post here, frightened down to their socks.
Americans arenít of course, patriotic Americans are for freedom equality and justice, it is those that have a private little rule book that has nothing to do with US law that are acting like frightened little children.
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I know, they are desperately trying to preserve the sanctity of Britney Spears "just for fun" 3 day marriage.
My marriage is not a failure, come same sex marriage or not, I donít see any reason not to deny you the same rights, privileges, recognition and yes... the word... that my wife and I have.
18,000 same sex marriages in California didnít hurt my marriage at all, not sure why their marriages are so fragile that it would hurt theirs. Maybe they should be focused on why their own marriages are so fragile rather than worry about what others are doing.
Its because they weren't real silly.

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Why is it so important to base this issue on history?
I can easily go back and find that major cultures and society utilized slavery from beginning to end. It's still an issue today--some 27,000,000 people are estimated to be enslaved today around the world.
But OUR society--our country--DOES NOT condone slavery.
If we were creating policy based on what history supported, then (using your argument) there should be legalized slavery in the U.S. today.
You cannot base your arguments about how gays have been treated throughout history as an argument for how we should be treated today.
We have modern medical findings and contemporary beliefs about gays and lesbians. THAT should be the basis for how we go forward.
Same-sex marriage SHOULD BE based on its own merits--not on how history has treated the matter.
I'm not basing anything on gays, I'm basing history and science on marriage.

ss couples cannot qualify or equate.

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Are they on history again? Do they want to burn witches?
Protestants?
Do you want to throw Christians to the lions? Burn them on the stake?

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Its because they weren't real silly.
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Not only were they, they still are

18,000 legally married and recognized same sex marriages today in California
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Do you want to throw Christians to the lions? Burn them on the stake?
Smile.
That is what we do if we get all our values from history
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Wow, I take it you have never been off the farm and only know what your parents tell you
No I just know what I see. And I've never seen a masculine gay man. Ever!

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<quoted text>No I just know what I see. And I've never seen a masculine gay man. Ever!
why do you hate america

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Not only were they, they still are
18,000 legally married and recognized same sex marriages today in California
They can't be. It is impossible.

It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.

There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.

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That is what we do if we get all our values from history
Hardly, that is what we do if we ignore the lessons of history.

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Why is it so important to base this issue on history?
History serves a guide. Why haven't we seen, other than a few scattered historical examples of recognized same sex unions, SSM before?
I can easily go back and find that major cultures and society utilized slavery from beginning to end. It's still an issue today--some 27,000,000 people are estimated to be enslaved today around the world.
Slavery?
But OUR society--our country--DOES NOT condone slavery.
If we were creating policy based on what history supported, then (using your argument) there should be legalized slavery in the U.S. today.
The issue before us is how society/state defines marriage. Why haven't societies in the past organized themselves around the concept of marriage as a union of two persons regardless of gender composition?
You cannot base your arguments about how gays have been treated throughout history as an argument for how we should be treated today.
The concept of a "gay" identity is relatively new, and I believe a western idea. SSSB occurred in ancient Rome, but they didn't slap rainbow bumper stickers on their chariots.
We have modern medical findings and contemporary beliefs about gays and lesbians.
Medical findings which are inconclusive. SSSB us not new, equating it with marriage, is.
THAT should be the basis for how we go forward.
Same-sex marriage SHOULD BE based on its own merits--not on how history has treated the matter.
Merits, or lack there of. Clearly there are reasons that despite the presence, acceptance, and/or celebration of, SSSB, among various societies in the past, it did not necessarily result in SSM. Such reasons should be considered before our society fundamentally alters a key component of society with state recognition. The needs of the many, out weigh the needs of the few.

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They can't be. It is impossible.
It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.
There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.
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why are you a faccist communist

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Incest really you went there? You are the ones saying its a man and a woman that's 2 right.
You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me.

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<quoted text>You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me.
I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
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Just when it seemed that things couldn't get any worse,

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-04-05/im-sorry-...

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/se...

The latest offering from the gays. This is what we get, for even having them around us. I couldn't believe it, I was channel surfing on my radio today, and they were discussing this disgusting offering, from the gays. Complete depravity, and on the regular radio station. Completely disgusting. Talking about it, as if it was the most normal thing in the world. What's next, the Feces Flapjack? Menstrual Marinade? My god, we all know that body fluids are not for eating or drinking. This is what we get,from the gay side? This is your contribution to society? I'm never going to a bar again, because the phenomenon of the mixed-up order just gained a whole new meaning. I'd have to hurt anyone who served me one of these things. Think about this. This is beyond disgusting. And, talking about it on a public radio station, where children can hear it.
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<quoted text>why are you a faccist communist
Contradiction. One is either a communist, or a fascist. Not both.

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I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
Same sex siblings too?

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Contradiction. One is either a communist, or a fascist. Not both.
so why are you a communist then

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I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
I like how you squirm and start out writing "I said race or gender"....lol....Did you forget the other part you wrote, fool. You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me. "or any other reason or difference" Not me. So now you are saying Marriage is about reproducing? and bro and sis can't marry because of that? What does gay marriage produce? Is that your issue now? You are hard to follow, all over the map. LOL

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