Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#186752 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Are they on history again? Do they want to burn witches?
Protestants?
Do you want to throw Christians to the lions? Burn them on the stake?

Smile.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186753 Apr 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Its because they weren't real silly.
Smile.
Not only were they, they still are

18,000 legally married and recognized same sex marriages today in California
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186754 Apr 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Do you want to throw Christians to the lions? Burn them on the stake?
Smile.
That is what we do if we get all our values from history
Anonymous

Becket, MA

#186755 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Wow, I take it you have never been off the farm and only know what your parents tell you
No I just know what I see. And I've never seen a masculine gay man. Ever!

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#186756 Apr 5, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>No I just know what I see. And I've never seen a masculine gay man. Ever!
why do you hate america

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#186757 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Not only were they, they still are
18,000 legally married and recognized same sex marriages today in California
They can't be. It is impossible.

It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.

There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#186758 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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That is what we do if we get all our values from history
Hardly, that is what we do if we ignore the lessons of history.

Smile.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#186759 Apr 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Why is it so important to base this issue on history?
History serves a guide. Why haven't we seen, other than a few scattered historical examples of recognized same sex unions, SSM before?
I can easily go back and find that major cultures and society utilized slavery from beginning to end. It's still an issue today--some 27,000,000 people are estimated to be enslaved today around the world.
Slavery?
But OUR society--our country--DOES NOT condone slavery.
If we were creating policy based on what history supported, then (using your argument) there should be legalized slavery in the U.S. today.
The issue before us is how society/state defines marriage. Why haven't societies in the past organized themselves around the concept of marriage as a union of two persons regardless of gender composition?
You cannot base your arguments about how gays have been treated throughout history as an argument for how we should be treated today.
The concept of a "gay" identity is relatively new, and I believe a western idea. SSSB occurred in ancient Rome, but they didn't slap rainbow bumper stickers on their chariots.
We have modern medical findings and contemporary beliefs about gays and lesbians.
Medical findings which are inconclusive. SSSB us not new, equating it with marriage, is.
THAT should be the basis for how we go forward.
Same-sex marriage SHOULD BE based on its own merits--not on how history has treated the matter.
Merits, or lack there of. Clearly there are reasons that despite the presence, acceptance, and/or celebration of, SSSB, among various societies in the past, it did not necessarily result in SSM. Such reasons should be considered before our society fundamentally alters a key component of society with state recognition. The needs of the many, out weigh the needs of the few.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#186760 Apr 5, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They can't be. It is impossible.
It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.
There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.
Smile.
why are you a faccist communist

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186761 Apr 5, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Incest really you went there? You are the ones saying its a man and a woman that's 2 right.
You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186762 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me.
I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186763 Apr 5, 2013
Just when it seemed that things couldn't get any worse,

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-04-05/im-sorry-...

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/se...

The latest offering from the gays. This is what we get, for even having them around us. I couldn't believe it, I was channel surfing on my radio today, and they were discussing this disgusting offering, from the gays. Complete depravity, and on the regular radio station. Completely disgusting. Talking about it, as if it was the most normal thing in the world. What's next, the Feces Flapjack? Menstrual Marinade? My god, we all know that body fluids are not for eating or drinking. This is what we get,from the gay side? This is your contribution to society? I'm never going to a bar again, because the phenomenon of the mixed-up order just gained a whole new meaning. I'd have to hurt anyone who served me one of these things. Think about this. This is beyond disgusting. And, talking about it on a public radio station, where children can hear it.
SkinTight

Covina, CA

#186764 Apr 5, 2013
Porn condom law's legal, economic impacts being seen (Los Angeles Daily News editorial)

Published: Friday, April 05, 2013

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#186766 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>why are you a faccist communist
Contradiction. One is either a communist, or a fascist. Not both.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#186767 Apr 5, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
Same sex siblings too?

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#186768 Apr 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Contradiction. One is either a communist, or a fascist. Not both.
so why are you a communist then

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186769 Apr 5, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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I said race or gender. Incest has nothing to do with either it has to do with unwilling participants and or science showing that if they reproduce it can cause defects.
I like how you squirm and start out writing "I said race or gender"....lol....Did you forget the other part you wrote, fool. You are the that wrote this: " No 2 PEOPLE should have anyone tell them they can't be together based on race or gender or any other reason or difference." Not me. "or any other reason or difference" Not me. So now you are saying Marriage is about reproducing? and bro and sis can't marry because of that? What does gay marriage produce? Is that your issue now? You are hard to follow, all over the map. LOL
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186770 Apr 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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"...a desire to feel equal to us..."
"...bombarded by your inferior side trumpeting on about how equal you are..."
"We don't want our kids indoctrinated..."
"You have no right to tell us about yourselves..."
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1.) I DO feel equal to you. Is there any doubt in your mind that people like me are not your equal?
2.) No one is indoctrinating your kids. I don't know about you, but knew about gays when I was very young. If I'm not mistaken, it was a preacher who talked about it. Then I clearly remember a pamphlet from church that talked about Sodom and Gomorrah--showing men touching other men.
3.) What is it that bothers you so much about our telling you about ourselves? I doubt that any gay person has ever said anything more to you than "I'm gay". If anyone has regaled you with explicit details of their sex life, then that person was an idiot.
Typically, it's you guys who let your imaginations run wild--grossing yourselves out with lurid images--wondering to yourselves, "who's the man and who's the woman?".
When I haven't spoken to someone in years and I reconnect with them on facebook, one of the first questions they ask is "Are you married?" Second question is "do you have kids?"
I respond honestly and say, "No, I'm gay."
What's so disturbing about that?
1) Fine.
2) Yes, they are, when the kids are taught about sexual matters, in the 1st grade.
3) Telling about yourselves over the mass media is a far cry from merely "telling about" yourselves, it is a publicity stunt. And, if you think that that is all I've ever heard, from gay people, then you are mistaken.
There is nothing disturbing about your PRIVATE Facebook conversations, but then again, that is not what I was talking about, now, was it?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186771 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>If they rename it to Milk, they should have a special pedophile wing.
How about, they re-name it "Anita Bryant International Airport"? And give free orange juice to anyone who signs an "Anti-SSM"etition?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#186772 Apr 5, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you fight gay rights... why not just accept that others are different from you and move on with your life... I mean really doesn't that make the most sense
No, what makes sense is that marriage is for man/woman. You have all the rights that the government gives me, in the Constitution. Which doesn't mention being gay and being allowed to marry. We haven't left our lives behind to combat your sides covetous lobbying, we make time to include sticking up for our side, why don't you go back to YOUR lives, and stop this assault on common sense?

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