Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 200,967

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#186627 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>And there you have it. Marriage to you is a sanctioned fluckfest, a god ordained ticket to procreation. Well good for you. My marriage is about sharing my life with my wife. Any one can have sex you moron, and you damn sure don't need to be married to do so. What a sad life you have.
Yes.. my wife is my best friend, my closest confidant and harshest critic, the one I share my hopes and dreams with, she is not my property, but my partner in life

I donít see any reason not to extend that to same sex couples.

Tradition mean nothing to me, traditionally Christians were murdered for entertainment. Just because something was true long ago, does not make it a good thing for today.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186628 Apr 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
Do athletes and celebrities call press conferences to announce their religious beliefs?
Nope, only rap stars with songs like "slap my bitch up" refer to and thank god publically
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186629 Apr 5, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Gays are fruity pansies! The only motorized bikes they could handle operating are scooters!lmfao!
Wow, I take it you have never been off the farm and only know what your parents tell you
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186630 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I have a Friend who lives in Amsterdam, in the 12 years that same sex marriage has been legal, his marriage of 20 years has not changed at all. Why should it?
Who cares, Jizzy? What a dopey story!

Too funny.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186631 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly
what is it about those that oppose same sex marriage that their marriages are so terribly fragile that they are like frightened little children.
My marriage is fine, same sex marriage has not harmed me or my children in any way at all.
Why should it?
Exactly.

Even child molesting welfare cheating poly marriage doesn't harm you.

Why should it?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186632 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>And there you have it. Marriage to you is a sanctioned fluckfest, a god ordained ticket to procreation. Well good for you. My marriage is about sharing my life with my wife. Any one can have sex you moron, and you damn sure don't need to be married to do so. What a sad life you have.
Your marriage is about yelling at your old lady to wait in the truck.

And ignoring her while you post dopey stuff on gay forums.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186633 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.. my wife is my best friend, my closest confidant and harshest critic, the one I share my hopes and dreams with, she is not my property, but my partner in life
I donít see any reason not to extend that to same sex couples.
Tradition mean nothing to me, traditionally Christians were murdered for entertainment. Just because something was true long ago, does not make it a good thing for today.
Oh for chrissakes any excuse at all to inject religion and murdering Christians for entertainment into the conversation eh Biggie?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#186634 Apr 5, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
There are entire network stations devoted to sports too. People wear apparel of their favorite team, put stickers on their cars, etc. All sorts of interests are put on display.
<quoted text>
Do athletes and celebrities call press conferences to announce their religious beliefs?
<quoted text>
So for now the lettuce, guacamole, bean, and tomato, sandwich crowd will still be waving the rainbow flag?
Why aren't those letters in alphabetical order? Just wondering.
I realize frustrating this must be for you. It's a contentious issue. And based on the exchanges that I have seen here (and have been involved in), it's very easy to sink to a level where you might feel better by throwing arrows in your comments. God knows I've done it.

That being said, I hope you read my response to Kimare about what the LGBT community is trying to do.

And to answer your last question, for years, in the LGBT community, there was a tremendous focus on the "G" to the exclusion of all others.

Lesbians seemed to take a backseat to gay men. Bisexuals were thought of as "confused". And heaven help the transgender community. Many gay men didn't want to be associated in any way with a man who seemed "too Nellie".

Over time, however, as our community grew and matured, we realized that there was strength in numbers--that we all had the same goal; to educate society; to be widely accepted as equals; and to pursue rights and protections under the law that had not been provided for in the past.

Many people in the 90s referred to the movement as the "GLBT" movement. At some point along the way, we began to recognize that Lesbians were still not being widely included in the overall movement. So there was a collective decision in our community to begin using "LGBT" in an effort to be more inclusive and equitable.

Let's try an experiment where I won't be nasty and snarky to you, if you won't be nasty and snarky to me.

Keep in mind that I may rip Kimare to shreds on occasion since we have a long history together. He, in my opinion, is the least respectful, nastiest person who is involved in this discussion.

There are others. But none have been more personal in their attacks than him.

He is a loose cannon and not representative of "your side".

We can talk to one another as adults--respectful adults.

I'm willing to give it a shot.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186635 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, I take it you have never been off the farm and only know what your parents tell you
That'll convince her to support SSM! Way to go Biggie!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186636 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly.
Even child molesting welfare cheating poly marriage doesn't harm you.
Why should it?
Your friends have not harmed me specifically, but I am glad they are being put in prison for their crimes against children.

I think you are wrong assuming all people in Poly relationships are like that. I have never assumed anything of the kind, only pointed out that is what people are seeing and why public support has not grown for that movement.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186637 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
That'll convince her to support SSM! Way to go Biggie!
You are mistaken that I want Cow Grils support, I want her to keep making comments as the poster child for those against same sex marriage, that will do more to support SSM than anything else I could do.

Like Sarah Palin for the Tea Party
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186638 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh for chrissakes any excuse at all to inject religion and murdering Christians for entertainment into the conversation eh Biggie?
I only bring that up when people bring up history and tradition as if following what was done in the past is always a good thing.

Try to keep up Frankie, you need to learn to take posts in the context of what they were responding to.
Station

Covina, CA

#186639 Apr 5, 2013
Call another trash hauling company to haul away D, quick.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186640 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Your friends have not harmed me specifically, but I am glad they are being put in prison for their crimes against children.
I think you are wrong assuming all people in Poly relationships are like that. I have never assumed anything of the kind, only pointed out that is what people are seeing and why public support has not grown for that movement.
Why don't you point out your friends, the gay serial killers whenever someone mentions same sex marriage then?

You bring up child molesting and welfare cheating whenever someone mentions poly marriage.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186641 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I only bring that up when people bring up history and tradition as if following what was done in the past is always a good thing.
Try to keep up Frankie, you need to learn to take posts in the context of what they were responding to.
You bring it up every chance you can get.

You need to learn to take posts "in the context of what they were responding to" (sic).

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186642 Apr 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know how some Christians like announce over and over again that they are Christian? They have crosses around their necks. They have that "Jesus fish" think on their bumper. They always seem to have a piece of scripture on their tongue. Heck, there are entire network stations devoted to Christianity.
The same can be said for Judaism. The same can be said for Islam.
Are you as frustrated with these folks who seem to always be pushing their religion on you? Do you get as outraged at them when they want to "indoctrinate" your children in public schools or in other public areas?
Here's the thing... The dust will eventually settle down. LGBT people won't always have a need to "come out". At some point in the future--probably long after you and I are gone--being gay will be seen as perfectly normal. There won't be any need for us to make an special effort to make our presence known.
I still think they will always have to come out, because the norm will still be straight, kids will be kids.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186643 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken that I want Cow Grils support, I want her to keep making comments as the poster child for those against same sex marriage, that will do more to support SSM than anything else I could do.
Like Sarah Palin for the Tea Party
Like you, the great Rose_NoHo, and the idiot troll X-Box do for SSM?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186644 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring it up every chance you can get.
You need to learn to take posts "in the context of what they were responding to" (sic).
Only when they bring up "tradition" and "historically" as if they are some kind of magic words, they stop bringing it up, so will I
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186645 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you point out your friends, the gay serial killers whenever someone mentions same sex marriage then?
You bring up child molesting and welfare cheating whenever someone mentions poly marriage.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I donít defend any criminals, regardless of their orientation.

None of those criminals that I am aware of have specifically used same sex marriage as an excuse for their crimes.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186646 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>And there you have it. Marriage to you is a sanctioned fluckfest, a god ordained ticket to procreation. Well good for you. My marriage is about sharing my life with my wife. Any one can have sex you moron, and you damn sure don't need to be married to do so. What a sad life you have.
I'm all for civil unions for your gay friends. Save Marriage for man and woman.

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