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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201844 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Mar 07

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#185804 Mar 31, 2013
Marram wrote:
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Rock, I have to agree with you on this one. I think all people should wait until the age of consent to become sexually active.
Yes, I believe that as well. Most people do. Or, at least they SAY they do.

But, sadly, that often doesn't seem to be the case. Stats show that something around 40-60% of underage pregnancies are caused by adult males and young girls.

And young people themselves are having sex at ever younger ages. And we don't seem to hear the rest of the population screaming about it at all.

At least, not with the vitriol and fervor that we hear them screaming against two adult gay folks actually marrying.

How odd is that? I just can't understand it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185805 Mar 31, 2013
Marram wrote:
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So are you saying that if all forms of marriage are not allowed then all man/woman marriages should not be allowed either? Try not to be a hypocrite in your response. We know how much you hate hypocrites.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Very astute Flash.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185806 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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So you can't marry your sister because it's illegal, eh? I thought you LAUGHED at that reasoning. New drugs?
That's what happens when you try to think Miss Thing. Better to not try.

I never LAUGHED at discrimination. Check your dosage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185807 Mar 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Yes, I believe that as well. Most people do. Or, at least they SAY they do.
But, sadly, that often doesn't seem to be the case. Stats show that something around 40-60% of underage pregnancies are caused by adult males and young girls.
And young people themselves are having sex at ever younger ages. And we don't seem to hear the rest of the population screaming about it at all.
At least, not with the vitriol and fervor that we hear them screaming against two adult gay folks actually marrying.
How odd is that? I just can't understand it.
The dopey loudmouth "Tommy Cochrane" says it's OK for 30 year old gay men to have sex with 16 year old boys as long as the boy is "super gay".

He also insists it would be OK for a greasy 30 year old slob to slick-leg his 16 year old daughter as long as the slob is progressive.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185809 Mar 31, 2013
When several states have already abandoned the notion that marriage is restricted to heterosexuals, I fail to see the logic in continuing to restrict it to monogamists.

If the "man woman" part of "one man one woman" is arbitrary and discriminatory, so is the "one" part.

I fail to see the logic in prohibiting siblings to marry when procreation has been declared irrelevant to marriage.

Pile on the hate! I'm ready.
Anonymous

East Granby, CT

#185810 Mar 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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The dopey loudmouth "Tommy Cochrane" says it's OK for 30 year old gay men to have sex with 16 year old boys as long as the boy is "super gay".
He also insists it would be OK for a greasy 30 year old slob to slick-leg his 16 year old daughter as long as the slob is progressive.
Pretty soon there won't be no right and wrong when it comes to sex! Anybody can have sex or get married to anyone it doesn't matter gender or age. I'm just going to do the best I can when it comes to my boys and make sure they grow up right and they don't get brain washed by the media and what the california retards think is right! It's just sickening it makes my stomach turn!
Anonymous

East Granby, CT

#185811 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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So you can't marry your sister because it's illegal, eh? I thought you LAUGHED at that reasoning. New drugs?
Woah, woah, woah, I missed that conversation, outdated medical theory? What's that inbred people don't have deformities or mental limitations? Oh geez, how about he starts sleeping with his close relatives to test his theory and see the outcome!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185812 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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It's not allowed because it's illegal!!!!!!!!
Changed your tune, eh?
That is very dumb when you say it's illegal because it's illegal.
But I know you say that just to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.

Or perhaps you are ready to tell us why you believe incest marriage and poly marriage are illegal? I would love to hear it.

You have no substance. Just stupid retorts. Why can I marry my first cousin but not my brother?

The answer is not "because it's illegal" The question is WHY is it illegal?

Since: Mar 07

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#185813 Mar 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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The dopey loudmouth "Tommy Cochrane" says it's OK for 30 year old gay men to have sex with 16 year old boys as long as the boy is "super gay".
He also insists it would be OK for a greasy 30 year old slob to slick-leg his 16 year old daughter as long as the slob is progressive.
He obviously isn't a parent.

Since: Mar 07

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#185815 Mar 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
When several states have already abandoned the notion that marriage is restricted to heterosexuals, I fail to see the logic in continuing to restrict it to monogamists.
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So, you can't understand the difference between 2, and 4, 5 , or six?

Yeah, right. The slippery slope is the last gasp, isn't it? You can't find a single rational reason to ban same sex couples from marrying, so you try to tie it to something unrelated.

Geesh. Why bother?

And why did it take TWO gay folks marrying to cause this sudden desire of yours to support polygamy? I mean, straight people have been marrying TWO for ages.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185816 Mar 31, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Woah, woah, woah, I missed that conversation, outdated medical theory? What's that inbred people don't have deformities or mental limitations? Oh geez, how about he starts sleeping with his close relatives to test his theory and see the outcome!
Yes. Modern science has found the medical reasons for the prohibition of incest procreation have been greatly exaggerated.

Also procreation is irrelevant to marriage in this century, right?

I am a New York resident. I can legally marry my first cousin in NY. Why can't I marry my sister?

Since: Mar 07

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#185817 Mar 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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That is very dumb when you say it's illegal because it's illegal.
But I know you say that just to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.
Or perhaps you are ready to tell us why you believe incest marriage and poly marriage are illegal? I would love to hear it.
You have no substance. Just stupid retorts. Why can I marry my first cousin but not my brother?
The answer is not "because it's illegal" The question is WHY is it illegal?
Who cares? it's primarily only anti-gay activists who promote it.

And you only use it as a straw man. They can't come up with any rational reasons to prevent TWO gay people from marrying in the same manner that TWO straight people ALREADY do, so they try to change the argument.

In reality, you would be horrified if someone used your positive arguments in favor of polygamy to actually fight to make it legal.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185818 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Yes. We already know you fail to see logic. As if......
There you go again. Substance Miss Thing, substance.

Tell me the logic in it. Don't tell me I'm dumb for not seeing it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185820 Mar 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
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He obviously isn't a parent.
That's the first thing I thought too, but there's no arguing with the barely literate jackass.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185821 Mar 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
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So, you can't understand the difference between 2, and 4, 5 , or six?
So you can't understand the difference between men and women?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185823 Mar 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
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So, you can't understand the difference between 2, and 4, 5 , or six?
Yeah, right. The slippery slope is the last gasp, isn't it? You can't find a single rational reason to ban same sex couples from marrying, so you try to tie it to something unrelated.
Geesh. Why bother?
And why did it take TWO gay folks marrying to cause this sudden desire of yours to support polygamy? I mean, straight people have been marrying TWO for ages.
There are no major reasons to deny SSM, I support it. Marriage is good for society. ALL marriage, not just marriages you approve of.

Now it's your turn. Why are you a hypocrite supporting same sex marriage but not poly marriage? What are your reasons?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#185824 Mar 31, 2013
Quest wrote:
Who cares? it's primarily only anti-gay activists who promote it....
Congress asked the Justice Department whether DOMA was constitutional at least three times. That's not what bigots do, ask for legal advice.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185825 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Did you just call yourself very dumb?
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Can't. It's illegal.
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Your meds are making you confused.
I didn't say it's illegal because it's illegal, you did Miss Thing.

I asked why is it illegal. Not if it's illegal, dummy.

Do you have ever have a point besides dumb personal attacks?

Please. Why is it illegal Miss Thing? The answer is not "New drugs?"
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185826 Mar 31, 2013
Mention polygamy on a so called marriage equality thread and all hell breaks loose!

WOO-HOOO! Always livens up the joint.

Hypocrites.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185832 Mar 31, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>When several states have already abandoned the notion that marriage is restricted to heterosexuals, I fail to see the logic in continuing to restrict it to monogamists.
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Tell you the logic in it? Is there some kind of all-or-nothing "logic rule" in your universe? Because 'A' happened, I fail to see why 'B' shouldn't happen. When you take your car to get an oil change, do you think it's logical for the service tech to re-upholster the interior of your car?
So marriage isn't restricted to heterosexuals anymore. So.
Heterosexuals can still marry. Nobody's gonna make you marry someone of the same sex. Only one thing changes. Same sex couples can marry. Marriage stays the same, except it is available to more taxpaying legal couples. Legal couples who pay MORE taxes then similarly situated hetero couples do now.
That said, to reason that the number of people permitted to enter a marriage should also change is illogical. Here: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
Can you pick which fallacy it is?
hint: there are several
If the gender part of "one man one woman" is arbitrary and discriminatory, so is the number part.

Marriage is good for society. Even marriages you disapprove of. Lucky for them you're not the queen.

You are a hypocrite. No different from the people you hate.

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