Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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<quoted text>I don't belong to any organization that has hatred for gay people. I am not Mormon. I have never seen a history book list names of people that were not for the civil rights of blacks other then a few groups like the kkk. I really could care less on the gay marriage issue, it won't affect me. You liberals seem to have fun saying that line of crap about being on the wrong side of history. LOL.
So you donít belong to or support any church that had support signs for Prop 8 on their lawns.

I suspect eyeglasses need cleaning

But you personally is not the point, I am saying that support for Prop 8 and other such hateful and discriminatory measures are broadly supported by religious organizations with narrow vision.

History will not look on them kindly

They are already bleeding followers, this really isnít the time to get this short sighted. If the current trend continues, that churches are basically political organizations, they will continue to recede.

I know people who get phone calls from their churches on election day telling them who to vote for and which way to vote on propositionsÖ. This does not bode well for the future of religion in America
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<quoted text>Did Lincoln say repeatedly the war was not being fought over slavery? yes or no. Do you think after the Civil war blacks and whites were treated equal?
There is the issue with the 13th amendment, on January 11, 1864 the 13th amendment(which would effectively ban slavery) was proposed, in April, 1864 the bill was rejected(that's right REJECTED), so here is the problem, the Union(which apparently according to some people was fighting to end slavery) actually voted down the 1st anti-slavery amendment, and it wasn't until February 1, 1865 when they voted on it again(and this time it passed)
So if they were in fact fighting over slavery, why would they vote down the Amendment that personified their reason for fighting? it was because they weren't fighting over slavery.
Saying Slavery is the cause the civil war is an Oversimplification, basically people try to simplify the causes of the war down to 1 issue, which causes people to ignore all of the other issues, such as State authority over Federal authority(or in other words, States Rights)
While Slavery was an issue during the War, historically speaking, it was one of literally dozens(if not hundreds) of causes for the war. remember that at that time, everyone volunteered to go to war, which meant that all 3+Million people had their own individual reasons to fight, and yes some on both sides did fight for slavery, but some fought solely for States Rights as well
Your ignorance is amazing

For Lincoln personally it wasnít, for Lincoln it was for preserving the union, and why was the union split up? Slavery and the continuation of slavery, the war was fought because the south seceded, and why did they secede?

It doesnít matter which way you look at it, every cause, every reason was tied to slavery

You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over.

I didnít say that the war was to "free the slaves", I said the institution of slavery and the fear of that institution ending was at the bottom of every reason for the civil war.

If you donít know thatÖ it is time you go back to elementary school
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please warn people all bible readers that satans angels are in human form makeing a last stand before they go into the fire........please warn other people and tell neighbors the end is here ...even if you dont believe during the end times the karma will make you sick

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# 4 Broad ruling affecting the entire US ( this is nearly as unlikely as #1 )
What do you mean unlikely? Last time I checked there was something called the 14th amendment on the USA! Why the hell should I be denied equal marriage rights because I live in Pennsylvania? You know the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 that STATE bans on interracial marriage was unconstitutional. Marriage is a fundamental right!

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So you donít belong to or support any church that had support signs for Prop 8 on their lawns.
I suspect eyeglasses need cleaning
But you personally is not the point, I am saying that support for Prop 8 and other such hateful and discriminatory measures are broadly supported by religious organizations with narrow vision.
History will not look on them kindly
They are already bleeding followers, this really isnít the time to get this short sighted. If the current trend continues, that churches are basically political organizations, they will continue to recede.
I know people who get phone calls from their churches on election day telling them who to vote for and which way to vote on propositionsÖ. This does not bode well for the future of religion in America
Not every Church is westboro. lol....I get phone calls from a lot of organizations, big deal?

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Your ignorance is amazing
For Lincoln personally it wasnít, for Lincoln it was for preserving the union, and why was the union split up? Slavery and the continuation of slavery, the war was fought because the south seceded, and why did they secede?
It doesnít matter which way you look at it, every cause, every reason was tied to slavery
You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over.
I didnít say that the war was to "free the slaves", I said the institution of slavery and the fear of that institution ending was at the bottom of every reason for the civil war.
If you donít know thatÖ it is time you go back to elementary school
It wasn't 1 issue: Your ignorance is amazing You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over. All the men fighting were not fighting over freeing John Brown.
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A ďLost CauseĒ supporter LOL
I didnít know there were any left alive
The "Lost Cause" was an effort by the south to re-write history, and what the war was actually about, and to vilify and make heroic certain figures.
If you actually knew anything... anything at all about American history, you would know that every cause of the war was linked to slavery.
Economically, politically, in every sense and every cause, slavery was at the bottom of it.
They withdrew from the union because of the fact that with Lincoln as president they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave states to non-slave states, which would eventually be the end of slavery, so they succeeded from the union
Here you go, this is elementary schools stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_A...
LOL

There's plenty of them here in TX. idiotic, but, they exist. none of the even recall what they learned in american history in high school - or they choose to ignore it.

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* Nazi Germany and Japan were defeated in 1945.
* Bans on interracial marriages in Southern states was brought down in 1967.
* The apartheid regime was brought down in 1994.
* And bans on gay marriage was brought down in 2013.
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<quoted text>It wasn't 1 issue: Your ignorance is amazing You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over. All the men fighting were not fighting over freeing John Brown.
Lying wonít help you, I didnít say it was one issue, I said every major issue, every cause of the secession ( quite a number of them ) was tied to the institution of slavery and the continuation of that institution.

That is a fact
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SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."

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Has anyone heard from Kimare this afternoon? Was he called before the Supreme Court to offer his "brilliant" comments about male anal sex, cross-cultural constraint crapola and his deep understanding of "epigentics mistake"?

Gosh, having read the arguments presented and questions asked by the justices and I don't believe any of these notions were raised by either side.

LOSER!!!

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http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/18/worlds-ol...
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"Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Stephen G. Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg pounded Cooper for linking marriage to child-bearing, with Kagan asking if states could also prohibit couples over age 55 from getting married. Cooper responded that even in that case, at least one member of the marriage would likely still be fertile, a suggestion that drew laughter from the courtroom."
A 55 year healthy male, marries a 40 healthy female. What are the odds the male can still father children? Hmmmmmm....

Men, if youíre searching for the key to lifelong virility, look no further than the nearest grocery store. Specifically, stock up on vegetables, milk, ghee, almonds and chapatis, an Indian flatbread.

Thatís what a 96-year-old Indian man, whose 52-year-old wife gave birth to a healthy boy on Oct. 5, attributes his vitality to, the†Times of India reports. Ramajit Raghav, who lives about 30 miles (50 km) northwest of Delhi in the district of Haryana, claims he is the oldest man in the world to father a child ó breaking a record he set in November 2010, when his first son, Vikramjeet, was born. ABC News was unable to confirm Raghavís age, but the Times of India†reports that Haryana governmentís social-welfare department lists his age as 96.
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SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."
He could not possibly be that uneducated, did that idiot really say that?
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SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."
Well, no. This came from a satirical article -- Scalia never said this.

There are plenty of things Scalia's actually said that one can use to bludgeon him over the head with -- keep the moral high ground and don't rely on fiction.
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Clayton Colwell wrote:
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Well, no. This came from a satirical article -- Scalia never said this.
There are plenty of things Scalia's actually said that one can use to bludgeon him over the head with -- keep the moral high ground and don't rely on fiction.
Thanks, it isnít that I had a high opinion of him, but he could not possibly be that stupid

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Wat the Tyler wrote:
* Nazi Germany and Japan were defeated in 1945.
* Bans on interracial marriages in Southern states was brought down in 1967.
* The apartheid regime was brought down in 1994.
* And bans on gay marriage was brought down in 2013.
* 1840s and onward, women began to be allowed to own property in their own names.
* Women are given the right to vote 1919
* Segregation and Jim Crow Laws ended 1964
* "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ended 2012

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What do you mean unlikely? Last time I checked there was something called the 14th amendment on the USA! Why the hell should I be denied equal marriage rights because I live in Pennsylvania? You know the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 that STATE bans on interracial marriage was unconstitutional. Marriage is a fundamental right!
Marriage, a fundamental right, as it been understood as a union of husband and wife.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/ 10/18/worlds-oldest-dad-96-fat hers-another-child/
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A 55 year healthy male, marries a 40 healthy female. What are the odds the male can still father children? Hmmmmmm....
Men, if youíre searching for the key to lifelong virility, look no further than the nearest grocery store. Specifically, stock up on vegetables, milk, ghee, almonds and chapatis, an Indian flatbread.
Thatís what a 96-year-old Indian man, whose 52-year-old wife gave birth to a healthy boy on Oct. 5, attributes his vitality to, the†Times of India reports. Ramajit Raghav, who lives about 30 miles (50 km) northwest of Delhi in the district of Haryana, claims he is the oldest man in the world to father a child ó breaking a record he set in November 2010, when his first son, Vikramjeet, was born. ABC News was unable to confirm Raghavís age, but the Times of India†reports that Haryana governmentís social-welfare department lists his age as 96.
Oh yes, by all means, lets encourage men in their 60s, 70s, and 90s to father children. That makes A LOT of sense. No potential for problems related to rearing children when you're a senior citizen. Heck, if you time it just right, your kid will be just old enough to wipe your behind when you become unable to do so yourself.(sarcasm)

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...and your qualifications are.....?
Qualifications for determining you are confused as to the definition of "consummation" as it allies to the sexual union of husband and wife? My ability to read.

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He could not possibly be that uneducated, did that idiot really say that?
Obviously Justice Scalia is not as wise as you are Big D. Now when did the word "gay" come into common usage to refer to homosexuals?

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