Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#184150 Mar 22, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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what a great story of your family! that's pretty awesome indeed.
i have a couple nephews that are in their 30s that are pretty staunchly anti-homosexual rights, based entirely upon what their church has taught them. yet, they cannot deny what they see in my partner and i - 23 yrs together, faithful to one another, loyal to one another, raising 3 kids that are pretty terrific (sorry, just a little proud of them) and serving our church and community in a similar fashion as they do in their churches and towns. i think in knowing us, in being exposed to us, they're getting a better understanding of the whole issues. we even went to church with one of them a few times in support of them a few yrs back when they had lost a son in a tragic accident...and their pastor even had a light turn on in their head and heart in dealing with us. my nephew said that he learned a good bit from us though that tragedy - we supported them in ways that their siblings and church family couldn't and didn't. i think that forged at least a softer approach in his heart with regards to gay rights.
that's the only way to get through to some people - let them see how we live. a baptist preacher friend told me a few months ago that all things were possible when reasonable people sat down and talked as humans, not as adversaries. we have to learn to reach for the commonalities between us instead of what divides us.
and that's something the politcal parties and the politicians in this country fail to see, fail to act upon. and it's killing us as a nation.
In the face of this most basic essence of marriage; a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior, your discussion is simply and purely denial.

Kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#184151 Mar 22, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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oh, i see.
wanting to the principles of feeding the poor, offering homes to the homeless, clothing those in need are all principles of "moral-less" liberals.
and the "high-morals" of the republicans include not spending any money on those less fortunate or the healing the sick or even creating a second class citizen of the tax paying homosexuals.
gotcha, nutcase.
Bull shit. Liberals demand other people's money and disperse it for votes.

Christians are on the front lines of meeting needs in every community across the country.

Reality's a bitch isn't it.

Smile.

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#184152 Mar 22, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You don't have the 'nads to admit you made a mistake.
That's one thing that is pathetic about you.
Another is you go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about how little you think I matter.
And you searched through tens of thousands of posts to find a specific post I made.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much!
Poor Rose, so desperately wants someone to take her seriously.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184153 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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History records that same pattern. Greece swung toward open acceptance, and then quickly away.
Make it seem like your mind is so open your brains fell out...
Snicker.
Yes. Historically Christians were murdered for entertainment.

Just because something was true in history, does not make it a good thing.

I loved your last line, I always picture your "Jesus" at the rock saying the things you people say. Yep.. wonderful followers, he would be so proud.

He would sayÖ throw that stone! Wouldnít he?

Since: Jun 07

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#184154 Mar 22, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Can you make a post that doesn't mention me?
Not when explaining ignorance. You are pert of the Websters definition.

Since: Jun 07

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#184155 Mar 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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California would be one of them if the vote were held again today
So you assume the 3rd time would be the charm?
Press blue

La Puente, CA

#184156 Mar 22, 2013
Press blue and get the results needed to shut the stinking mouths of RNC, GOP, Republican and Tea Party members.

Since: Jun 07

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#184157 Mar 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Thanks for the link. Prior to reading your posts I just assumed that marriage automatically carried over from state to state, that one state could force aanother state to accept a marriage.
Many people do, but James Madison explains it quite well in Federalist#42. He clearly shows how one may have certain "privileges" in one State while not enjoying the same in another. The only requirement is that a Citizen of one State be granted the SAME privileges as the citizen's of said state are granted while visiting.

" It seems to be a construction scarcely avoidable, however, that those who come under the denomination of free inhabitants of a State, although not citizens of such State, are entitled, in every other State, to all the privileges of free citizens of the latter; that is, to greater privileges than they may be entitled to in their own State... " James Madison- Federalist#42

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#184158 Mar 22, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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A fundie talking about science...LOL.
I pass gas that knows more about odds than you do.
You are talking about odds after the fact.
That's like asking what are the odds Lou Gehrig would have died of Lou Gehrig's disease.
A puddle of crud theory atheist talking about science...LOL...I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. That some apes evolved, others didn't and all life started from a puddle of crud that just showed up.'theory of evolution'. It's a fairy tale for grown ups!
Faster crooks

La Puente, CA

#184159 Mar 22, 2013
Keep an eye on these kind of people, crooks they should be stood up against a wall after the 5 minute trial.

Former city police Chief Nate Harper will plead guilty to charges that he conspired to steal city police funds deposited into unauthorized police credit union accounts and failed to file federal tax returns from 2008 to 2011.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#184160 Mar 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You may miss the days when divorce was more difficult, battered women ( or men ) stuck where they could not get out, molested children where they wife would actively turn her had the other way as she had no where else she could go other than to cover it up.
I donít
Our marriages are stronger today because of how easy divorce is.
there is a saying you may have heard of. "He that doeth evil hateth the light", that applies directly here.
Today marriages are more active, couples do things together to keep their marriages alive and strong and rely less on a piece of paper to keep it so.
I prefer my wife to be my wife because she wants to be my wife, not because some piece of paper makes her so. What is it that you are so afraid of? What is it that you want to do so desperately that you know it is too easy for your wife to divorce you for?
You may not be old enough to remember, but I can tell you, the good old days werenít all that good, and tomorrow is not as bad as it seems.( I should call Billy Joel and get permission to use that )
Let see, marriages are 'stronger' because they can be broken easier. Oh, and never mind the children...

Been married 36 years. Fallen in and out of love a number of times, but been committed the whole time. Good thing my wife stayed through the times she didn't want to.

Need hip boots for the BS level tonight...

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#184161 Mar 22, 2013
Gregory Dale wrote:
Kimare is soooooo completely out of touch with mainstream Christianity. It's no wonder he didn't have a successful career in the United Church of Christ (UCC) as a pastor in Hawaii. The UCC, of course, has always been at the forefront of social activism. Kimare's beliefs, however, would set social issues back at least one century.
Had one of the largest UCC churches in HI, in a small outer island community.

Growing too, while most UCC churches are rapidly dying.

Smile.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#184162 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Let see, marriages are 'stronger' because they can be broken easier. Oh, and never mind the children...
Been married 36 years. Fallen in and out of love a number of times, but been committed the whole time. Good thing my wife stayed through the times she didn't want to.
Need hip boots for the BS level tonight...
Smirk.
Thanks for the assist and chuckle.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#184163 Mar 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Are you serious? I simply pointed out the Constitution does not treat all citizens "equal" in all matters, the constitution has to interpreted. How the heck in the name of Francis Albert Sinatra, did u think I was "comparing the the rules regarding qualifying for POTUS to the rights of Gay Americans"?
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it amuses me how some rainbow flag wavers toss around the word "bigot" simply because one opposes the legal redefinition of marriage, that it is, pun intended", inconceivable. Heaven forbid, you realize you already do, as do I, possess the right to marry. You simply do not wish to exercise such a right in the same manner as everybody else.
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That's when you all start whining like little children. What will YOU chooches come up with next? Just admit it, you are weirded out by the fact that you were created by a sex act, coital intercourse, between a man and a woman, and that clouds YOUR judgement. In other words, the only one who is a bigot here is you!
You pointed it out to justify why you think itís okay that Gay Americans are not afforded equal marriage rights. Otherwise, why would you say it? That makes you a bigot, bigot. The rest of your post is just hysterical ramblings.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#184164 Mar 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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California would be one of them if the vote were held again today
Yeah, I think more and more people are realizing there just isn't a rational argument against gay marriage.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#184165 Mar 22, 2013
Marram wrote:
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You pointed it out to justify why you think itís okay that Gay Americans are not afforded equal marriage rights.
Actually, they are, no different than any other American.
Otherwise, why would you say it?
That u already have the right to marry, or that u were creared as a result if sex between a man and a woman?
That makes you a bigot, bigot. The rest of your post is just hysterical ramblings.
It makes both if the above statements true. The only bigot here is u bigot.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#184166 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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1. Didn't say 'restraint'. Social scientists say it is a constraint, you prove it's not.
2. No one said it had to be successful
3. There is no such thing as gay 'marriage'. The only result of saying there is, would be the redefinition of the word. Meaning that ss couples would still not really be married in the true sense of the word.
Smirk.
You think our rights should depend on our genes? Should you be allowed to marry, as you are a monster mutation?
:)

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#184168 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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What an ignorant joke,'the wrong side of history'!
In all of recorded history, every single culture has had marriage.
In all that time, not one SINGLE culture has embraced ss marriage from start to finish. It barely shows up, and quickly disappears. It NEVER has established itself and spread.
You can't blame a Christian, you can't blame the Republicans, you can't blame a single culture.
Do you understand how profound that is?
At this point, it's you who is on 'the wrong side of history'.
Snicker.
What an ignorant joke,'the wrong side of history'!
In all of recorded history, every single culture has killed or ostracized mutants.
In all that time, not one SINGLE culture has embraced mutants from start to finish. When they show up, they are killed. They ALWAYS are hated.
You can't blame a Christian, you can't blame the Republicans, you can't blame a single culture.
Do you understand how profound that is?
At this point, it's you who is on 'the wrong side of history'.
What good are you?
Do you think you should have been aborted?
:)
Every culture would hate hated you. Every culture EVER!
:)
PressedRed

La Puente, CA

#184169 Mar 22, 2013
Look what you did, you pushed the Red button.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#184170 Mar 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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We distinguish human rights for a number of different classifications. SCOTUS has done so a number of times because marriage is the best birthplace of every member of society.
You claim a ss couple who is mutually procreative desolate deserves the same rights and protections? Do you understand how stupid and ridiculous that is?
Smile.
You don't have to be able to procreate in order to marry. Your whole argument is stupid and ridiculous, like you are.

:)

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