Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Do you understand how evil this type of thing is? How your blind pursuit of justifying homosexual behavior has darkened and perverted your thinking and spirit in every way?
Do you understand? Heck, I have seen you on other threads trashing gays, advancing your false religion. How much time do you spend here doing that? And then you call others darkened and perverted?

Look in the mirror.

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I will worry about it when you find some integrity Rose.
She has a lot more integrity than you do.

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<quoted text>Smells like religious bigotry to me, and cumming from someone who claims to treat prople equally. Slurp!
well said, big d is only here to show us his hate for anyone that believes in a higher power, but then spits his equality rants about others.

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I will worry about it when you find some integrity Rose.
I have plenty of integrity. Remember, you are the one who edited my post to try to make it seem like I didn't know something.
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BTW, are you still confused as to why I presented quotes from the founders regarding their position on slavery when you asked about their feeling on the overturn of Loving v Virginia and the end of slavery?
Again, you lie. I never said anything about their feelings on the end of slavery. It's easy to show how dishonest you are!
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Or are you still claiming that you said something about the 14th Amendment in your rant?

Yeah, stupid, when I mention Loving v VA, I'm saying something about the 14th Amendment. Study the case:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/histori...
"This case presents a constitutional question never addressed by this Court: whether a statutory scheme adopted by the State of Virginia to prevent marriages between persons solely on the basis of racial classifications violates the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment."

Grow a pair, admit you made a mistake.
Your continued dishonesty just makes you look...dishonest.

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She has a lot more integrity than you do.
Like Rose, you make meaningless statements with no substantiating evidence to back it up.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Do you understand? Heck, I have seen you on other threads trashing gays, advancing your false religion. How much time do you spend here doing that? And then you call others darkened and perverted?
Look in the mirror.
You've seen no such thing.

Moreover you defend what you falsely judge.

Smirk.

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Again, you lie. I never said anything about their feelings on the end of slavery. It's easy to show how dishonest you are!
Do I really need to post a link for you again?

Your entire post was a rant about slavery, woman's right to vote, and Loving v Virginia, culminating in you asking how the founders would feel about the decision.

Why don't you just admit you are out of gas. But the good news is you are still full of sh%%.

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You've seen no such thing.
Yes I have.
Moreover you defend what you falsely judge.
Smirk.
No I don't.

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Like Rose, you make meaningless statements with no substantiating evidence to back it up.
What a whiner you are.

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What a whiner you are.
Your spelling isn't very good. You spell it- winner.

But I'll give you a C for effort.

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Your spelling isn't very good. You spell it- winner.
But I'll give you a C for effort.
You need glasses.

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Do I really need to post a link for you again?
IOW, you got caught in a lie.
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Your entire post was a rant about slavery, woman's right to vote, and Loving v Virginia, culminating in you asking how the founders would feel about the decision.
BS. And you know it.
I mentioned how they would have felt about Loving v. VA.
You have no integrity.
Funny really.
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Why don't you just admit you are out of gas. But the good news is you are still full of sh%%.
LOL. You are upset because I called you on a lie. And you just don't have the 'nads to say, "My bad". You don't even have to give me the apology you owe me.
You're pathetic!
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Can any of you read? I have already stated my position on DOMA.
One more time since you and your clan seem a bit slow- SEC 3 of DOMA is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Got it?
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Prop 8 is a very distinct issue. CA is currently the only State where one can make the argument that the 14th Amendment has been violated. This is due to the fact that there are currently homosexuals in CA whom are legally marriage and will continue to be so even with prop 8. This creates a "special class" of homosexual citizen within the State- one class which can and is legally married, and another second class which cannot.
I fully expect the SCOTUS to uphold the Walker decision, I also fully expect them to limit that decision to the State of California. It is in fact the correct and Constitutional thing to do.
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Now this is a wide net. There is no enumerated power within the Constitution for the Federal Government to regulate or otherwise define marriage, thus under the 10th Amendment this falls to the State. This is the exact logic the court used when it ruled DOMA unconstitutional. I feel the court won't touch the issue of same sex marriage on a national level.
Here is what I think will come out of the SCOTUS with these cases, and what also would be the Constitutional thing for the court to do.
First- Rule that Prop 8 is a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment for the reasons I stated above. They will limit this ruling strictly to California and the Prop 8 Issue.
Second- They will Rule that Section 3 of DOMA is unconstitutional for the same reasons as the lower court ruling- The Federal Government Lack's the enumerated power to define or regulate marriage- thus this power lies with the States to define and choose on their own. This will serve a dual purpose:
1) It will prevent the Federal Government from limiting, removing, or denying equal rights to homosexual couples whom are legally married by a State which allows such unions. They will be required to treat them exactly the same in regards to all regulations, benefits, and tax laws.
2) It will leave the States free to decide on their own what constitutes a marriage within their own boarders, as it should be based on the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution. Now I really don't think it's going to be long before all State legalize same sex marriage, public opinion is moving in that direction, and most people really don't care. But based on our founding as a republic and union of individual sovereign State's, it is up to each to decide.
Now you may not like that, and that may not even be the way the SCOTUS rules, as just like the entire Federal Government they are in a power grab, and if they can find a way to give the Federal Government purview over the regulation and control of marriage they most certainly will. But you should ask yourself, is the the "freedom" you are looking for?
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after the ruling it will make in incredibly easy for any state to have its exclusion of same sex marriages overturned for similar reasons.

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Your spelling isn't very good. You spell it- winner.
But I'll give you a C for effort.
Whiner:
"a person who makes frequent complaints usually about little things"
"an irritable and complaining person"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/whin...

Tzunammi was right.

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IOW, you got caught in a lie.
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BS. And you know it.
I mentioned how they would have felt about Loving v. VA.
You have no integrity.
Funny really.
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LOL. You are upset because I called you on a lie. And you just don't have the 'nads to say, "My bad". You don't even have to give me the apology you owe me.
You're pathetic!
Does it hurt to be this stupid?

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Does it hurt to be this stupid?
Ask yourself.

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<quoted text>So after a year and a half of posting, you finally said what you could have long ago. I agree with your post, I will however say that the Prop 8 ruling could have a little more power that you think. For instance, any of the states that currently allow same sex marriage will see that any chance of removing it, will be rejected from the start. To the best of my knowledge SCOTUS has not been asked to decide if Same sex marriage must be mandated in every state. That however does not mean that they won't. Part of the problem comes with portability in a marriage licence granted by one state and not recognised by others. I do not know of any heterosexual marriage that is not recognised from state to state.
I have posted this at least 50 times before, it's not my fault people either don't read or simply make assumptions.

And as far as "portability" goes, there is no constitution requirement for that. The only reason a marriage license can be carried from one state to another is because they have allowed it since the requirement have historically been the same in each State. This is not the same for concealed carry permits, nor is it the case for a driver's license- if you move from one state to another you will be required to pass their driving test and receive a license from their State.

There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for one State to compel another to accept it's laws.

The SCOTUS has already ruled as such:
"Its sole purpose was to declare to the several States that, whatever those rights, as you grant or establish them to your own citizens, or as you limit or qualify or impose restrictions on their exercise, the same, neither more nor less, shall be the measure of the rights of citizens of other States within your jurisdiction."- Slaughterhouse Cases

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Ask yourself.
Did you come up with this all by yourself? I'm so proud.

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Does it hurt to be this stupid?
You got caught in a lie. I proved it.
And that's all you can say.
LOL.
If I had made a mistake, I'd have the ovaries to admit it.
But you are a pathetic thing with no sense of honor.
Must suck to be you.

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You got caught in a lie. I proved it.
And that's all you can say.
LOL.
If I had made a mistake, I'd have the ovaries to admit it.
But you are a pathetic thing with no sense of honor.
Must suck to be you.
How many voices do you hear Rose?

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