Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,038

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181872 Feb 28, 2013
JoshCham wrote:
The people of California voted this down. I voted for gay marriage but I have since changed my mind on it. Should gays be allowed to get married? Yes. But marriage isn't a right and none of the government's business to be in. People wanted it put to a vote and they lost, they should of moved on.
People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181873 Feb 28, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Why its still two people.
It still effects those laws, and to pretend it doesn't is not helping your case.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181874 Feb 28, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Frank come on tell us all about jumping out of a Chopper in Nam.
I was scared and pumped on adrenaline. I jumped too soon. I misjudged how high we were. Maybe 12 feet. It hurt for a while and a little ever since but nothing debilitating until recently. Now I cannot walk and the docs aren't giving me a good prognosis. I had another surgery yesterday. Laposcopic surgery. Modern medicine is a blessing.

My age and the old injury combined, and here I am.

You're a real jerk and a creep, but I wouldn't wish it on you or anyone, Well maybe my ex wife...naaah. No one. Not even you or her.
Not being able to stand or walk is a life changing challenge. I'm up for it. I follow docs orders religiously.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181875 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
You're absolutely insane.
- Me
Thank you! That makes me feel ALIVE! Seriously.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181876 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not a change in laws, just a change in who the laws apply to. You're really quick to make people out as idiotic, aren't you?
Also, why wouldn't we want to extend those things?
You should look up the definition of CHANGE. You just said nothing changing but.... which means it changed.

And I am not that quick at calling people idiots, I have been here quite some time as have the others, I guess the fact that you just arrived to the party has confused you.

BTW, none of the items I mentioned that require changes in the law are "rights".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181877 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
Tell Big D. He thinks polygamists should give up. Without a fight.
Says it's futile.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181878 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you! That makes me feel ALIVE! Seriously.
Liveliness transcends.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181879 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever made any kind of actual argument in this forum? Seems all you do is call people names.
Yup, but you wouldn't recognized an argument if it smacked you in the head so it is no wonder that missed it.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181880 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I was scared and pumped on adrenaline. I jumped too soon. I misjudged how high we were. Maybe 12 feet. It hurt for a while and a little ever since but nothing debilitating until recently. Now I cannot walk and the docs aren't giving me a good prognosis. I had another surgery yesterday. Laposcopic surgery. Modern medicine is a blessing.
My age and the old injury combined, and here I am.
You're a real jerk and a creep, but I wouldn't wish it on you or anyone, Well maybe my ex wife...naaah. No one. Not even you or her.
Not being able to stand or walk is a life changing challenge. I'm up for it. I follow docs orders religiously.
Well crap, I almost want to apologize for being heavy on you now.

I mean, this is a debate forum, but my god...woah. I was not aware of this, man.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181881 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a victim of prop 8 because I am not gay.
You assume too much.
Because a loophole in prop 8 adds (in some miniscule, insignificant way) to the crapload of other laws denying you the right to poly marriage, you assume that prop 8 was equally addressing poly marriage alongside gay marriage.
Nowhere in the ballot statement did it mention poly marriage.
You're losing.
Sorry.
Must suck.
Prop 8 says marriage is a man and a woman ONLY. Not 2 men and a woman. Not 2 men, not 2 women. It EFFECTIVELY and EQUALLY bans polygamy as well as SSM.

Look Jerky. The bottom line is I support marriage equality and you do not.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181882 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
But we aren't a democracy. We're a democratically representative republic.
I know. When did I say we were a democracy jackass?
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181883 Feb 28, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
You should look up the definition of CHANGE. You just said nothing changing but.... which means it changed.
And I am not that quick at calling people idiots, I have been here quite some time as have the others, I guess the fact that you just arrived to the party has confused you.
BTW, none of the items I mentioned that require changes in the law are "rights".
I didn't say "nothing changing". I said the laws themselves didn't change, it was just an expansion of who they applied to.

This is my RE-arrival to the party, bro. I was commenting on this last May. I found those pages of comments again just a couple minutes ago. You're on them. You've been here forever, or so it seems.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181884 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
Liveliness transcends.
Yes indeed.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181885 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Prop 8 says marriage is a man and a woman ONLY. Not 2 men and a woman. Not 2 men, not 2 women. It EFFECTIVELY and EQUALLY bans polygamy as well as SSM.
Look Jerky. The bottom line is I support marriage equality and you do not.
Depends on what you define as marriage equality. If "marriage equality" to you includes poly marriage, then it's your cause to fight for. I don't advocate it, but I don't intend to stop you. I'm not an anti-change person.

Look, I'm trying to be nicer to you here. I'm trying to be civil now. You don't have to call me "Jerky".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181886 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
Well crap, I almost want to apologize for being heavy on you now.
I mean, this is a debate forum, but my god...woah. I was not aware of this, man.
It should make no difference to you, I'm FINE! Enjoying my life maybe even a bit more than I did before. And I have always enjoyed it. It's another challenge. I'm good at challenges.

Don't want or need any sympathy. Fire away, I can't walk but I still have my wits about me. And a sense of humor.

As far as the war, glad I went, glad I came back after two tours. I went there a boy and came back a man with goals. I used the GI bill to earn a masters in geology, and spent 30 years as a research geologist.

And I got lots of HOT SEX with the little brown ladies "take two, they're small"! In between the hard times. And GOOD DRUGS and cheap alcohol! No taxes!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181887 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
Poor little Rose, all these years and she still hasn't figured out that it was Skinner v Oklahoma that is the source of marriage as a "right".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181888 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends on what you define as marriage equality. If "marriage equality" to you includes poly marriage, then it's your cause to fight for. I don't advocate it, but I don't intend to stop you. I'm not an anti-change person.
Look, I'm trying to be nicer to you here. I'm trying to be civil now. You don't have to call me "Jerky".
My fighting days are over. Now I just want to sit and discuss true marriage equality. For same sex and poly marriages. They are both marriage and they both deserve the same respect and consideration.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181889 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say "nothing changing". I said the laws themselves didn't change, it was just an expansion of who they applied to.
This is my RE-arrival to the party, bro. I was commenting on this last May. I found those pages of comments again just a couple minutes ago. You're on them. You've been here forever, or so it seems.
So when something changes nothing changes?

You really need help.

“I won't be your hero.”

Since: Jul 12

Vacaville, CA

#181890 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
We already have equal rights in the Constitution now, it's just a matter of the people enforcing it. There are hateful bigots that prevent that happening, I find it ridiculous that we have to create laws to ensure what is already there rather than idiots being marginalized as they should be rather than gays.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181891 Feb 28, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup, but you wouldn't recognized an argument if it smacked you in the head so it is no wonder that missed it.
LOL. Is stupidity on your level physically painful? I hope so!
You can't come up with a single argument against gay marriage. All you do is attack people. Prove me wrong, come up with an argument against gay marriage. Doesn't even have to be a good one. You can say god is against it, or gay couples can't reproduce. You won't come up with one. You'll just call names.
I have one for gay marriage, only one is needed:
Equal rights.

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