Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,794

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Edgar

Spring, TX

#181878 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Thank you! That makes me feel ALIVE! Seriously.
Liveliness transcends.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181879 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Have you ever made any kind of actual argument in this forum? Seems all you do is call people names.
Yup, but you wouldn't recognized an argument if it smacked you in the head so it is no wonder that missed it.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181880 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I was scared and pumped on adrenaline. I jumped too soon. I misjudged how high we were. Maybe 12 feet. It hurt for a while and a little ever since but nothing debilitating until recently. Now I cannot walk and the docs aren't giving me a good prognosis. I had another surgery yesterday. Laposcopic surgery. Modern medicine is a blessing.
My age and the old injury combined, and here I am.
You're a real jerk and a creep, but I wouldn't wish it on you or anyone, Well maybe my ex wife...naaah. No one. Not even you or her.
Not being able to stand or walk is a life changing challenge. I'm up for it. I follow docs orders religiously.
Well crap, I almost want to apologize for being heavy on you now.

I mean, this is a debate forum, but my god...woah. I was not aware of this, man.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181881 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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I am not a victim of prop 8 because I am not gay.
You assume too much.
Because a loophole in prop 8 adds (in some miniscule, insignificant way) to the crapload of other laws denying you the right to poly marriage, you assume that prop 8 was equally addressing poly marriage alongside gay marriage.
Nowhere in the ballot statement did it mention poly marriage.
You're losing.
Sorry.
Must suck.
Prop 8 says marriage is a man and a woman ONLY. Not 2 men and a woman. Not 2 men, not 2 women. It EFFECTIVELY and EQUALLY bans polygamy as well as SSM.

Look Jerky. The bottom line is I support marriage equality and you do not.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181882 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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But we aren't a democracy. We're a democratically representative republic.
I know. When did I say we were a democracy jackass?
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181883 Feb 28, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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You should look up the definition of CHANGE. You just said nothing changing but.... which means it changed.
And I am not that quick at calling people idiots, I have been here quite some time as have the others, I guess the fact that you just arrived to the party has confused you.
BTW, none of the items I mentioned that require changes in the law are "rights".
I didn't say "nothing changing". I said the laws themselves didn't change, it was just an expansion of who they applied to.

This is my RE-arrival to the party, bro. I was commenting on this last May. I found those pages of comments again just a couple minutes ago. You're on them. You've been here forever, or so it seems.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181884 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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Liveliness transcends.
Yes indeed.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181885 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 says marriage is a man and a woman ONLY. Not 2 men and a woman. Not 2 men, not 2 women. It EFFECTIVELY and EQUALLY bans polygamy as well as SSM.
Look Jerky. The bottom line is I support marriage equality and you do not.
Depends on what you define as marriage equality. If "marriage equality" to you includes poly marriage, then it's your cause to fight for. I don't advocate it, but I don't intend to stop you. I'm not an anti-change person.

Look, I'm trying to be nicer to you here. I'm trying to be civil now. You don't have to call me "Jerky".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181886 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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Well crap, I almost want to apologize for being heavy on you now.
I mean, this is a debate forum, but my god...woah. I was not aware of this, man.
It should make no difference to you, I'm FINE! Enjoying my life maybe even a bit more than I did before. And I have always enjoyed it. It's another challenge. I'm good at challenges.

Don't want or need any sympathy. Fire away, I can't walk but I still have my wits about me. And a sense of humor.

As far as the war, glad I went, glad I came back after two tours. I went there a boy and came back a man with goals. I used the GI bill to earn a masters in geology, and spent 30 years as a research geologist.

And I got lots of HOT SEX with the little brown ladies "take two, they're small"! In between the hard times. And GOOD DRUGS and cheap alcohol! No taxes!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181887 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
Poor little Rose, all these years and she still hasn't figured out that it was Skinner v Oklahoma that is the source of marriage as a "right".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181888 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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Depends on what you define as marriage equality. If "marriage equality" to you includes poly marriage, then it's your cause to fight for. I don't advocate it, but I don't intend to stop you. I'm not an anti-change person.
Look, I'm trying to be nicer to you here. I'm trying to be civil now. You don't have to call me "Jerky".
My fighting days are over. Now I just want to sit and discuss true marriage equality. For same sex and poly marriages. They are both marriage and they both deserve the same respect and consideration.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181889 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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I didn't say "nothing changing". I said the laws themselves didn't change, it was just an expansion of who they applied to.
This is my RE-arrival to the party, bro. I was commenting on this last May. I found those pages of comments again just a couple minutes ago. You're on them. You've been here forever, or so it seems.
So when something changes nothing changes?

You really need help.

“I won't be your hero.”

Since: Jul 12

Vacaville, CA

#181890 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
We already have equal rights in the Constitution now, it's just a matter of the people enforcing it. There are hateful bigots that prevent that happening, I find it ridiculous that we have to create laws to ensure what is already there rather than idiots being marginalized as they should be rather than gays.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181891 Feb 28, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Yup, but you wouldn't recognized an argument if it smacked you in the head so it is no wonder that missed it.
LOL. Is stupidity on your level physically painful? I hope so!
You can't come up with a single argument against gay marriage. All you do is attack people. Prove me wrong, come up with an argument against gay marriage. Doesn't even have to be a good one. You can say god is against it, or gay couples can't reproduce. You won't come up with one. You'll just call names.
I have one for gay marriage, only one is needed:
Equal rights.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181892 Feb 28, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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Poor little Rose, all these years and she still hasn't figured out that it was Skinner v Oklahoma that is the source of marriage as a "right".
Stupid, I wasn't saying anything about source. I just put Loving v VA in quotes because it does state that marriage is a right.
And again, you can't come up with an argument against gay marriage, you just call names. Must suck to high heaven to be you!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181893 Feb 28, 2013
Ooops, not quotes, parentheses.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181894 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL. Is stupidity on my level physically painful?
I don't know, why don't you tell us?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181895 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Stupid, I wasn't saying anything about source. I just put Loving v VA in quotes because it does state that marriage is a right.
It sure does, but unlike you when it does so it cites the original source- Skinner v Oklahoma. Something that you like to ignore as it ties marriage and procreation as rights into a nice little bundle.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181896 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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And again, you can't come up with an argument against gay marriage.
Why would I you moron, I never said there was one, in fact I have never said a single time in this forum that same sex marriage shouldn't be legal.

What I have argued, is that the federal judiciary has no business sticking their nose in it. There is no Constitutional right to marriage, and marriage laws fall under the purview of the STATE. At least that is what the court said when they tossed portions of DOMA, or don't you like that decision anymore?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181897 Feb 28, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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I don't know, why don't you tell us?
See, you never come up with an argument.
LOLSER!

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