Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,146

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181824 Feb 28, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text> No this thread pertains to a federal judge who overturned a ban on same sex marriage. Did he have the right to do so. Did the portions of the Constitution that he sighted pertain to his ruling. At one time Same sex marriage was legal in California, did the voters of California have the right to remove and deny marriage based on sexuality?? Did the action of the voters violate the U.S. Constitution? At what time was Polgamy legal in the State of California?
It is also a ban on polygamy dummy. Don't hog all the victimhood.

What don't you understand about ONE man ONE woman?
CopperHeads

Covina, CA

#181825 Feb 28, 2013
The Orange man calling himself John Boehner has had eschews Hastert rule for third time.

After a year and a half after its expiration, the Violence Against Women Act passed the House Feb. 28, 2013 Thursday by 286-138 vote and will soon be reauthorized once it's signed back in to law by the president Obama.

Stupid GOP, Republicans and Tea Party (CopperHeads) held it up
Big D

Modesto, CA

#181826 Feb 28, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I just saw something I had not considered.
I know that some companies support same sex marriage, in fact I know some companies will not build an office in places where same sex benefits are not fully recognized.
But now the language is changing, over 60 major companies now are filing a brief with the supreme court saying it is a "business imperative" that same sex marriage be recognized, that they are having difficulty hiring, and moving people the best people to different states where different rules apply.
I knew most major business were on board, but I had not considered that aspect.
up to today I have been expecting the narrow ruling, affecting California alone. I may have to alter that, as more and more pile on, I suspect DOMA is going to be struck down and the ruleing may make changes across all 50 states.
If so, this will be historic.
More have piled on, there are now over 200 companies on that brief

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#181827 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
It is also a ban on polygamy dummy. Don't hog all the victimhood.
What don't you understand about ONE man ONE woman?
Gawwd you can not be that stupid, can you? I just posted what this thread is about. The ruling has nothing to do with polygamy. Its about removing an existing right granted by the state. When was Polygamy legal in California? Go read the findings, tell me where polygamy is listed.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#181828 Feb 28, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I just saw something I had not considered.
I know that some companies support same sex marriage, in fact I know some companies will not build an office in places where same sex benefits are not fully recognized.
But now the language is changing, over 60 major companies now are filing a brief with the supreme court saying it is a "business imperative" that same sex marriage be recognized, that they are having difficulty hiring, and moving people the best people to different states where different rules apply.
I knew most major business were on board, but I had not considered that aspect.
up to today I have been expecting the narrow ruling, affecting California alone. I may have to alter that, as more and more pile on, I suspect DOMA is going to be struck down and the ruleing may make changes across all 50 states.
If so, this will be historic.
I hope all companies pile on.
Dirty Harry

Covina, CA

#181829 Feb 28, 2013
Clint Eastwood to Supreme Court, Drop California's ban on same-sex marriage and that was a lot to be said even to a empty CHAIR.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181830 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
PROPOSITION EIGHT effects polygamy as much as it does same sex marriage.
Polygamy was illegal BEFORE Prop8. Prop 8 made same sex marriage illegal.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181831 Feb 28, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Gawwd you can not be that stupid, can you? I just posted what this thread is about. The ruling has nothing to do with polygamy. Its about removing an existing right granted by the state. When was Polygamy legal in California? Go read the findings, tell me where polygamy is listed.
Gawwd you can not be that stupid, can you?
-As stupid as you? No, never.

I just posted what this thread is about. The ruling has nothing to do with polygamy.
-Prop 8 says ONE man ONE woman, the "man woman" is not more valid than the "one".

Its about removing an existing right granted by the state. When was Polygamy legal in California?
-1862

Go read the findings, tell me where polygamy is listed.
-Prop 8 says marriage is ONE Man ONE woman. Again the gender part is not more valid or worthy than the number part.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181832 Feb 28, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Gawwd you can not be that stupid, can you? I just posted what this thread is about. The ruling has nothing to do with polygamy. Its about removing an existing right granted by the state. When was Polygamy legal in California? Go read the findings, tell me where polygamy is listed.
How many times have we gone over this? Poor Frankie... he just doesn't get it. kinda sad to be that addled.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181834 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
PROPOSITION EIGHT effects polygamy as much as it does same sex marriage.
As long as we're making unfounded allegations, Frankie Rizzo is really a depressed turtle who resorts to internet trolling to compensate for his loneliness.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181835 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
It is also a ban on polygamy dummy. Don't hog all the victimhood.
What don't you understand about ONE man ONE woman?
And who do hermaphrodites marry? Are they just completely cut out from the institution? They're not a man or a woman. Or this law doesn't specify for them.

You and akpilot say we're all just for a cause, for self-affirmation, and if we were really for letting everyone be happy, we would support poly marriage. But where are the hermaphrodites in this? They exist. Their conditions are genetic. Neither you nor akpilot have mentioned that.

Please, enlighten me on your insight to this.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181836 Feb 28, 2013
Randy-Rock-Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly thing, we have ... You just wish to dismiss them... LOL
But there isn't a rational argument against gay marriage.
Most idiots like you either prattle on about god, or say gay couples can't reproduce.
Well, there is no god. And you don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181837 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo is just a troll who is flying under false colors. He is really against gay marriage, and attacks everybody who is in favor of it. I don't think he cares about polygamy one way or another, and would be willing to bet he has never, ever posted on the topic in a forum about polygamy. He's just trying to flood the forum with posts about that red herring.
Dale DuBois

United States

#181838 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181839 Feb 28, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>How many times have we gone over this? Poor Frankie... he just doesn't get it. kinda sad to be that addled.
Kinda sad you have no argument except the off topic card.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181840 Feb 28, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Polygamy was illegal BEFORE Prop8. Prop 8 made same sex marriage illegal.
If all other laws against polygamy were repealed except PROP 8, that would be the only thing stopping polygamy from being legal in California, X-box.

Sounds relevant and on topic to me.

Don't hog all the victimhood, Prop 8 is as much about poly as it is about same sex.

What don't you understand about one man one woman? Prop 8 prohibits both same sex and poly marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181841 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
<quoted text>
And who do hermaphrodites marry? Are they just completely cut out from the institution? They're not a man or a woman. Or this law doesn't specify for them.
You and akpilot say we're all just for a cause, for self-affirmation, and if we were really for letting everyone be happy, we would support poly marriage. But where are the hermaphrodites in this? They exist. Their conditions are genetic. Neither you nor akpilot have mentioned that.
Please, enlighten me on your insight to this.
Liar. Produce the posts to prove the accusations you have made against me Fruitloops. I won't wait.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181842 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Kinda sad you have no argument except the off topic card.
When you're done trying to beat your opponents with a feather, can you please respond to me? I'm waiting.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181843 Feb 28, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar. Produce the posts to prove the accusations you have made against me Fruitloops. I won't wait.
What posts? That's what I'm saying, you never mentioned it. I can't provide evidence to something that doesn't exist.

Which is exactly why I'm saying, it doesn't exist. You've never mentioned hermaphrodites and if you're so high and mighty on this thing and all "nobody-should-dare-get-o ff-topic-with-me" then you'll stay on topic and enlighten us about what you think about hermaphrodites marrying.

Otherwise you're just as dabbled in double standards as you and those who agree with you accuse our side of being.
Dale DuBois

United States

#181844 Feb 28, 2013

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