Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

[Frankie Rizzo]

Big D wrote:

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I was not saying a specific person, I was saying the Mormon church of Utah practically strong armed their own flock for funds to push into California to fund Prop 8
We all know this

Yes I know it too. Many groups funded prop 8, many groups funded opposition to prop 8. So what?

You wish there was a law that if someone funds anti-gay marriage legislation, you can deny them equal rights. But, too bad for you, and too good for equal rights, there is not.

So like it or lump it jackass, equal rights are for everyone even those who attempt to deny them to others.

[Frankie Rizzo]

Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy (or polyamory, multiple romantic and sexual relationships without legal marriage). Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly. "I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them." He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."

[Big D]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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Yes I know it too. Many groups funded prop 8, many groups funded opposition to prop 8. So what?
You wish there was a law that if someone funds anti-gay marriage legislation, you can deny them equal rights. But, too bad for you, and too good for equal rights, there is not.
So like it or lump it jackass, equal rights are for everyone even those who attempt to deny them to others.

I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.

Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.

If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.

Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.

[Hank El Bozo5900876]

The fake fish is the problems that is causin all the actin up. The scientologisticos say that this is causing a rash of beard growth in large lesbians who are characteristically enlarged. This dont mean nothing and I heard it on Foxx. Therefore it is the truth to millions and they know that Christ is the oldest god on the planet and all others is fakers and creeps in funny suits and way too big hats. Dont believe nothing unless then it is whispered, that means it is true. Build biggggg borders and deport anybody you dont know who doesnt got a gun.

[Pietro Armando]

Dusty Mangina wrote:

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For them, it's like letting other races into the country club.

Exactly how many races are there? How does that compare to the TWO genders/sexes?

[Frankie Rizzo]

Big D wrote:

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I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.
Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.
If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.
Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.

I suppose if poly is applied to gays, you'll be much more sympathetic, because that's the way you are, bigoted.

Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy. Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly.

"I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them."

He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."

http://poly-nyc.com/

[Big D]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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I suppose if poly is applied to gays, you'll be much more sympathetic, because that's the way you are, bigoted.
Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy. Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly.
"I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them."
He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."
http://poly-nyc.com/

Go ahead, no one is arresting polygamists these days, they arrest them for other crimes but not specifically polygamy

No one is stopping you, go ahead

if you want recognition form the state and federal government than go get your petition out there are start a case.

Whining on an internet forum will not get you anywhere.

[Frankie Rizzo]

Big D wrote:

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I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.
Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.
If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.
Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.

Of course Fundamentalist Mormons are a tiny percentage of polygamists and mainstream Mormons do not practice it at all. Most polygamists are not religious, and many are Islamic.

I purposely used Mormons to bring out your inner bigot and I succeeded nicely. I'm tired of your "I'm laughing at you" and "Laughing hysterically at Utah" bullsh!t. It's always the same- I support poly it's just that everyone else doesn't support those child raping welfare cheats in Utah.(The children were removed from their parents in Texas by the way, not Utah).

[Frankie Rizzo]

Big D wrote:

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Go ahead, no one is arresting polygamists these days, they arrest them for other crimes but not specifically polygamy
No one is stopping you, go ahead
if you want recognition form the state and federal government than go get your petition out there are start a case.
Whining on an internet forum will not get you anywhere.

This is what an internet forum is for jackass.

Do you talk of space travel? Stop it! Whining on an internet forum won't get you into space.

[Big D]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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This is what an internet forum is for jackass.
Do you talk of space travel? Stop it! Whining on an internet forum won't get you into space.

Oh I am an active supporter of space sciences, I talk with my wallet on that.

I am not personally going to space, too old am afraid

But back to the actual topic here, Same sex marriage, it is hilarious that your champions are from Utah... what a contradiction, and if they ask for marriage equality on the national stage, we all know what will get thrown in their face.

I still think Montana is a better place for you to start, they pride themselves on their rebelliousness anyway.

[Big D]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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Of course Fundamentalist Mormons are a tiny percentage of polygamists and mainstream Mormons do not practice it at all. Most polygamists are not religious, and many are Islamic.
I purposely used Mormons to bring out your inner bigot and I succeeded nicely. I'm tired of your "I'm laughing at you" and "Laughing hysterically at Utah" bullsh!t. It's always the same- I support poly it's just that everyone else doesn't support those child raping welfare cheats in Utah.(The children were removed from their parents in Texas by the way, not Utah).

If you are tired of being laughed at, stop being so funny

[Brian_G]

Big D wrote:

You are incredibly behind the times, you are wrong in every single statement you made. They have already passed fitness requirements, they have already served on the front lines they have already fought and died under enemy fire. You are just ignorant of the fact. I understand you don’t like laws to change, get over it, we changed the laws that allowed slaves, we changed the laws that denied women the vote, we changed the laws that kept people of color in a lower class, and this law will change too, regardless of your fear of it.

Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.

[sickofit]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.

I hear Iran would be a gerat place for you stone age nazi pigs to live....MOVE NOW TRAITOR..........FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL ALL ALL ALL PEOPLE MORON.........

[Big D]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.

Because you say so... no

Women have already been on the front lines, weapon in hand, fought and died for our country. "The front lines" are a more fluid concept now than it was in earlier wars, in this day and age the front lines can suddenly appear and disappear.

There is no need to change the combat qualifications because of women, the qualifications are indeed changing but because of technology, not because of women.

There is not currently gender equality in the military, that is in the process of changing, regardless of your objections.

[Brian_G]

Big D wrote:

Because you say so... no
Women have already been on the front lines, weapon in hand, fought and died for our country. "The front lines" are a more fluid concept now than it was in earlier wars, in this day and age the front lines can suddenly appear and disappear.
There is no need to change the combat qualifications because of women, the qualifications are indeed changing but because of technology, not because of women.
There is not currently gender equality in the military, that is in the process of changing, regardless of your objections.

The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...

You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.

If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...
You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.
If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.

Hey how's that wife of yours... LOL

[Big D]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...
You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.
If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.

You don’t get it, the standards are going to be lowering anyway, because of technology, and raising in other respects, particularly intellectually

In 10 years we will have few piloted aircraft

in 25 years there will probably be no crews in tanks

Already we have women in house to house searches in Afghanistan side by side men in ground action

You can whine and complain all day long, it wont matter, this change is overdue ( other countries have already done it ) and is coming regardless of your objections

[Frankie Rizzo]

Big D wrote:

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Oh I am an active supporter of space sciences, I talk with my wallet on that.
I am not personally going to space, too old am afraid
But back to the actual topic here, Same sex marriage, it is hilarious that your champions are from Utah... what a contradiction, and if they ask for marriage equality on the national stage, we all know what will get thrown in their face.
I still think Montana is a better place for you to start, they pride themselves on their rebelliousness anyway.

Sorry to spoil your fun but the secular humanists who support marriage equality for everyone, including Mormons in Utah, and are "my champions", are not from Utah.

Would you be less hostile and/or amused at denying equality if the people in Utah were excluded?

How about a gay polyamorist relationship in Utah? If you were king would you deny that too? Or do they get a pass in Big D's Bigotland simply because they are gay and not Mormons?

[Frankie Rizzo]

Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:

<quoted text>Hey how's that wife of yours... LOL

How's Jerry?

[Dusty Mangina]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...
You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.
If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.

Wrong thread, Captain Commando.