Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180593 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I never said polygamy should not be allowed, you are saying that, not me.
I am just laughing at your personal champions of "marriage equality", it just exposes you as the total hypocrite you are.
Another example of out of state funding of propositions, tens of millions poured into California trying to stop Indian casinos… funded by…. Drum roll…. Nevada casinos!
Anymore whenever a controversial proposition comes up, just follow the money.
Utah really likes to stick their noses in other states business, but they are being shut down now.
The woman who wrote the essay is a secular humanist. Not a Mormon. She writes that Mormons deserve marriage equality, so you declare that Mormons wrote that essay. And that she funded prop 8. You're a bigoted moron.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180594 Feb 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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The woman who wrote the essay is a secular humanist. Not a Mormon. She writes that Mormons deserve marriage equality, so you declare that Mormons wrote that essay. And that she funded prop 8. You're a bigoted moron.
I was not saying a specific person, I was saying the Mormon church of Utah practically strong armed their own flock for funds to push into California to fund Prop 8

We all know this
Condomes

Covina, CA

#180595 Feb 21, 2013
Don't have time for your "out of townes" bull postings, must be a Glendora inbreeding GOP, Republican.

National news bares that fact out.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180596 Feb 21, 2013
Dorn wrote:
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A gardener, a plumber, a car mechanic, also would be handy.
(Chuckle) Yes they would...might as well throw in a gynecologist and a hair dresser as well.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180597 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I was not saying a specific person, I was saying the Mormon church of Utah practically strong armed their own flock for funds to push into California to fund Prop 8
We all know this
Yes I know it too. Many groups funded prop 8, many groups funded opposition to prop 8. So what?

You wish there was a law that if someone funds anti-gay marriage legislation, you can deny them equal rights. But, too bad for you, and too good for equal rights, there is not.

So like it or lump it jackass, equal rights are for everyone even those who attempt to deny them to others.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180598 Feb 21, 2013
Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy (or polyamory, multiple romantic and sexual relationships without legal marriage). Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly. "I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them." He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180599 Feb 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes I know it too. Many groups funded prop 8, many groups funded opposition to prop 8. So what?
You wish there was a law that if someone funds anti-gay marriage legislation, you can deny them equal rights. But, too bad for you, and too good for equal rights, there is not.
So like it or lump it jackass, equal rights are for everyone even those who attempt to deny them to others.
I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.

Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.

If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.

Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.
Hank El Bozo5900876

Sonoma, CA

#180600 Feb 21, 2013
The fake fish is the problems that is causin all the actin up. The scientologisticos say that this is causing a rash of beard growth in large lesbians who are characteristically enlarged. This dont mean nothing and I heard it on Foxx. Therefore it is the truth to millions and they know that Christ is the oldest god on the planet and all others is fakers and creeps in funny suits and way too big hats. Dont believe nothing unless then it is whispered, that means it is true. Build biggggg borders and deport anybody you dont know who doesnt got a gun.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180601 Feb 21, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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For them, it's like letting other races into the country club.
Exactly how many races are there? How does that compare to the TWO genders/sexes?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180602 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.
Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.
If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.
Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.
I suppose if poly is applied to gays, you'll be much more sympathetic, because that's the way you are, bigoted.

Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy. Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly.

"I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them."

He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."

http://poly-nyc.com/
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180603 Feb 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I suppose if poly is applied to gays, you'll be much more sympathetic, because that's the way you are, bigoted.
Some homosexual activists also see the link between same-sex marriage and polygamy. Justin Michael, founder of the group "Polyamorous NYC," says that efforts by homosexual activists to deny the link with polyamory is false and cowardly.
"I'd encourage people to keep an open mind," he asserted, "it wasn't too long ago that gay relationships were completely ostracized. All movements have a tendency to build on the movements that have come before them."
He added: "It's hypocritical for us as gays and lesbians to pretend we're the only people who are treated differently because our relationships are not mainstream. Both communities are concerned with love, and forming lasting relationships, and with our own liberation."
http://poly-nyc.com/
Go ahead, no one is arresting polygamists these days, they arrest them for other crimes but not specifically polygamy

No one is stopping you, go ahead

if you want recognition form the state and federal government than go get your petition out there are start a case.

Whining on an internet forum will not get you anywhere.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180604 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I do sometimes use “take what you put out” as an argument of those individuals that cannot see past themselves, but in no way am I for denying such rights.
Again I would vote in favor of poly marriage if it came up, I am only noticing that it isn’t going to come up, because the most vocal supporters of it are too lazy to do anything about it but whine on an internet forum.
If they try it in Utah, they will be laughed off the national stage, Utah is already in the national news working to deny marriage equality to others. They could try it in California, but funds coming from Utah into California for a proposition have sort of a negative image right now.
Maybe Montana would be a good place to start.
Of course Fundamentalist Mormons are a tiny percentage of polygamists and mainstream Mormons do not practice it at all. Most polygamists are not religious, and many are Islamic.

I purposely used Mormons to bring out your inner bigot and I succeeded nicely. I'm tired of your "I'm laughing at you" and "Laughing hysterically at Utah" bullsh!t. It's always the same- I support poly it's just that everyone else doesn't support those child raping welfare cheats in Utah.(The children were removed from their parents in Texas by the way, not Utah).
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180605 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Go ahead, no one is arresting polygamists these days, they arrest them for other crimes but not specifically polygamy
No one is stopping you, go ahead
if you want recognition form the state and federal government than go get your petition out there are start a case.
Whining on an internet forum will not get you anywhere.
This is what an internet forum is for jackass.

Do you talk of space travel? Stop it! Whining on an internet forum won't get you into space.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180606 Feb 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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This is what an internet forum is for jackass.
Do you talk of space travel? Stop it! Whining on an internet forum won't get you into space.
Oh I am an active supporter of space sciences, I talk with my wallet on that.

I am not personally going to space, too old am afraid

But back to the actual topic here, Same sex marriage, it is hilarious that your champions are from Utah... what a contradiction, and if they ask for marriage equality on the national stage, we all know what will get thrown in their face.

I still think Montana is a better place for you to start, they pride themselves on their rebelliousness anyway.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180607 Feb 21, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course Fundamentalist Mormons are a tiny percentage of polygamists and mainstream Mormons do not practice it at all. Most polygamists are not religious, and many are Islamic.
I purposely used Mormons to bring out your inner bigot and I succeeded nicely. I'm tired of your "I'm laughing at you" and "Laughing hysterically at Utah" bullsh!t. It's always the same- I support poly it's just that everyone else doesn't support those child raping welfare cheats in Utah.(The children were removed from their parents in Texas by the way, not Utah).
If you are tired of being laughed at, stop being so funny

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#180608 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
You are incredibly behind the times, you are wrong in every single statement you made. They have already passed fitness requirements, they have already served on the front lines they have already fought and died under enemy fire. You are just ignorant of the fact. I understand you don’t like laws to change, get over it, we changed the laws that allowed slaves, we changed the laws that denied women the vote, we changed the laws that kept people of color in a lower class, and this law will change too, regardless of your fear of it.
Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.
sickofit

Owatonna, MN

#180609 Feb 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.
I hear Iran would be a gerat place for you stone age nazi pigs to live....MOVE NOW TRAITOR..........FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL ALL ALL ALL PEOPLE MORON.........
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180610 Feb 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Women have different fitness standards from men, there is no gender equality in the military. If you change combat qualifications to let women in front line troops, that's bad leadership.
Because you say so... no

Women have already been on the front lines, weapon in hand, fought and died for our country. "The front lines" are a more fluid concept now than it was in earlier wars, in this day and age the front lines can suddenly appear and disappear.

There is no need to change the combat qualifications because of women, the qualifications are indeed changing but because of technology, not because of women.

There is not currently gender equality in the military, that is in the process of changing, regardless of your objections.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#180611 Feb 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
Because you say so... no
Women have already been on the front lines, weapon in hand, fought and died for our country. "The front lines" are a more fluid concept now than it was in earlier wars, in this day and age the front lines can suddenly appear and disappear.
There is no need to change the combat qualifications because of women, the qualifications are indeed changing but because of technology, not because of women.
There is not currently gender equality in the military, that is in the process of changing, regardless of your objections.
The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...

You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.

If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#180612 Feb 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The physical fitness training standards are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...
You can see for yourself, the standards are lower for women.
If you want to let unqualified people in combat units, change the rules for everyone, not just women.
Hey how's that wife of yours... LOL

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