Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,360

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#179000 Feb 8, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Your arguments suck, but not in the good way. SSM Is legal in many places
And its not legal in far more places than it is.
and it will soon be legal throughout the entire country.
May be it will, maybe it won't.
You can't do a damn thing about it
Nor can you
but you still don't have to like it.
but you can still watch "Sister Wives"

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#179001 Feb 8, 2013
Frankie RIzzo wrote:
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The slippery slope argument against SAME SEX MARRIAGE is valid but inconsequential and no reason to deny rights. You seem to disagree?
Paisan

What the heck is real issue? Why don't SSM advocates embrace polygamy, or at least acknowledge that legal ssm will open the door to plural marriage? Are they so afraid of the backlash of public opinion, that they don't have the courage to admit this? This whole notion of "marriage equality" contains within it the acceptance and recognition of plural marriage relationships.

“Get it right”

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#179003 Feb 8, 2013
Robert wrote:
When the majority votes in favor of something it's called a law....
Or majority discrimenation over the minority.

“Get it right”

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#179004 Feb 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Paisan
What the heck is real issue? Why don't SSM advocates embrace polygamy,...
There is no need for them to embrace it.
Pietro Armando wrote:
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...or at least acknowledge that legal ssm will open the door to plural marriage? Are they so afraid of the backlash of public opinion, that they don't have the courage to admit this?...
Actually, it's more of a "who cares?" thought. If SSM opens a door to Poly, so what?! Really, so what if it does?
Pietro Armando wrote:
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... This whole notion of "marriage equality" contains within it the acceptance and recognition of plural marriage relationships.
S o w h a t !? Non-issue, get over it.

“Get it right”

Since: Nov 10

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#179005 Feb 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Paisan
What the heck is real issue? Why don't SSM advocates embrace polygamy, or at least acknowledge that legal ssm will open the door to plural marriage? Are they so afraid of the backlash of public opinion, that they don't have the courage to admit this? This whole notion of "marriage equality" contains within it the acceptance and recognition of plural marriage relationships.
By the way, straight marriage is leading to SSM. So if SSM leads to Poly, and you really, really don't want Poly then you should be arguing to get rid of the root cause which is staright marriage.

See how much credit that will buy you.

Then again, if you don't think straight marriage marriage leads to SSM then your whole fear about SSM leading to Poly is unfounded and a lie.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#179006 Feb 8, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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Or majority discrimenation over the minority.
Or the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179008 Feb 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Paisan
What the heck is real issue? Why don't SSM advocates embrace polygamy, or at least acknowledge that legal ssm will open the door to plural marriage? Are they so afraid of the backlash of public opinion, that they don't have the courage to admit this? This whole notion of "marriage equality" contains within it the acceptance and recognition of plural marriage relationships.
They're hypocrites. And they get real silly trying to hide it!
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179009 Feb 8, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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By the way, straight marriage is leading to SSM. So if SSM leads to Poly, and you really, really don't want Poly then you should be arguing to get rid of the root cause which is staright marriage.
See how much credit that will buy you.
Then again, if you don't think straight marriage marriage leads to SSM then your whole fear about SSM leading to Poly is unfounded and a lie.
Of course, they are all marriage and they all deserve the same respect and consideration. Don't you agree?
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179010 Feb 8, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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There is no need for them to embrace it.
<quoted text>
Actually, it's more of a "who cares?" thought. If SSM opens a door to Poly, so what?! Really, so what if it does?
<quoted text>
S o w h a t !? Non-issue, get over it.
Tell the judge polygamy should not be allowed because it's a "non issue get over it" when it comes to court. See if it flies!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#179011 Feb 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Hardly. The law and the Constitution are being manipulated. Our founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.
Yep. Women and non-white people can vote. It's against the law to murder natives. Slavery is illegal...
Let's 'em roll!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#179012 Feb 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Paisan
What the heck is real issue? Why don't SSM advocates embrace polygamy, or at least acknowledge that legal ssm will open the door to plural marriage? Are they so afraid of the backlash of public opinion, that they don't have the courage to admit this? This whole notion of "marriage equality" contains within it the acceptance and recognition of plural marriage relationships.
Since you don't have a good argument against gay marriage, you try to cloud the issue with the polygamy red herring. Why not start a forum on the topic of polygamy? Oh, yeah, you don't really give a damn about it.
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179013 Feb 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Since you don't have a good argument against gay marriage, you try to cloud the issue with the polygamy red herring. Why not start a forum on the topic of polygamy? Oh, yeah, you don't really give a damn about it.
Why not start a thread on red herrings?! It's over in the fish forum!
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179014 Feb 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Since you don't have a good argument against gay marriage, you try to cloud the issue with the polygamy red herring. Why not start a forum on the topic of polygamy? Oh, yeah, you don't really give a damn about it.
Since you don't have a good argument against polygamy you call it a red herring.

And you try to censor it away. It's not off topic and it's not a red herring. Don't be scared.

Why don't you give polygamy the same respect and consideration you give same sex marriage? Are you a hypocrite?
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#179015 Feb 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Since you don't have a good argument against gay marriage, you try to cloud the issue with the polygamy red herring. Why not start a forum on the topic of polygamy? Oh, yeah, you don't really give a damn about it.
When poly gets to court, you should tell the judge it shouldn't be allowed because it's a red herring. See how that flies! Good luck!

What harm would a marriage of three men cause you?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#179016 Feb 8, 2013
Frankie RIzzo wrote:
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When poly gets to court, you should tell the judge it shouldn't be allowed because it's a red herring. See how that flies! Good luck!
What harm would a marriage of three men cause you?
One woman is enough for me! Who the heck wants more?

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#179017 Feb 9, 2013
WHY VOTE wrote:
Ok, I don't really care if same sex people get married or are together in any capacity. I am for equal rights BUT.......... I am very annoyed that peoples votes don't mean anything anymore. What happened to a majority vote rules? What happened to the peoples voice?

My stance on this has nothing to do with same sex couples. This is just the latest thing a court has overturned or blocked that THE PEOPLE voted for. Look at AZ., look back at prop. 187 which would have saved is billions in illegal immigrant funding. The people of the USA are trying to make changes to better our country and the few judges are effectively disenfranchising us.
Again this is not directed at same sex couples it is major frustration over the majority loosing there voice.

WHY VOTE????
Liberals can not care less about your vote!!!

They think they know better. They want total control.

Your vote is just an inconvenience to their communist agenda!

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#179018 Feb 9, 2013
UK and France legalize marriage equality. Meanwhile in AmeriKKKa children in Newtown, Connecticut and Chicago and being gunned down due the blood stained policies of the NRA.

P.S. This is why the world, and many Americans, hates this country.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#179019 Feb 9, 2013
Wat the Tyler wrote:
UK and France legalize marriage equality. Meanwhile in AmeriKKKa children in Newtown, Connecticut and Chicago and being gunned down due the blood stained policies of the NRA.

P.S. This is why the world, and many Americans, hates this country.
You Liberals hate this country!!!

Why millions cross the border to come here, goofball?

America is the best country in the world!

Full of Conservative Christians who risk their lives to help other overseas.

Conservatives who care abs love others and send millions of dollars to help other countries in need!

ONLY Libtards hate America!!!

Kids are gunned down because parents are not allowed to protect then with their own guns, goofball!

Why do you think Texas has no "kids gun down" problem?

Did you know that cities that allow guns are less violent and have less crime?

I wonder why? I wonder why?

Did you know that the Supreme Court said the police has NO DUTY to protect you, goofball?

I hope someday you wish you had a gun, when you see the barrel of another in your face!! Too late, baby!!!

As for me and my family... We all know how to use them and we all have conceal!!!

Do you really think that taking guns from law abiding citizens will reduce crime?

Oh never mind, you are a Libtars so you believe criminals will have no guns to kill you after the government takes yours, goofball!

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#179020 Feb 9, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
You Liberals hate this country!!!
No but I can't stand over 50% of the people who live in this country.
Why millions cross the border to come here, goofball?
USA has a net negative migration rate. More people are leaving the AmeriKKKa nation than entering.
America is the best country in the world!
Not true in terms of education, healthcare, wealth equality, birth mortality, etc.
Full of Conservative Christians who risk their lives to help other overseas. Conservatives who care abs love others and send millions of dollars to help other countries in need!
Most Conservative Christians are the ones pushing for killing and wars overseas.
Why do you think Texas has no "kids gun down" problem?
They do. Texas is one of the worst states in the union with the highest teen pregnancy, poverty, stupidity, illiteracy, etc.
Did you know that cities that allow guns are less violent and have less crime?
Not true. You are lying.
Do you really think that taking guns from law abiding citizens will reduce crime?
Yes Amerifat. Statistically it's been proven that less guns = less killing. Look at UK with only 35 deaths caused by guns last year.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#179021 Feb 9, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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There is no need for them to embrace it.
<quoted text>
Actually, it's more of a "who cares?" thought. If SSM opens a door to Poly, so what?! Really, so what if it does?
<quoted text>
S o w h a t !? Non-issue, get over it.
Here we go again, a buff ego with no head trying to reason...

First, words describe reality. A poly-marriage holds two major common distinctions that gay couples completely fail at;
-diverse genders
-procreation

Always core identities of the relationship of marriage.

This still ignores the fundamental essence of marriage; a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Something you still have been abjectly unable to surmount with an iota of reason...

All this and more clearly disqualifies gay couples from marriage. No matter what some twisted judge decrees...

However, the practice of polygamy is rooted in two reasons;
-Supporting a population that has more females than males.
-A substandard solution to address male mating behavior drive.

It also has this vicious backlash for women. Let me use Mohammad and Bin Laden as examples;

Both had polygamous marriages. Both had wives engaged in vicious fights for dominance and attention.

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