Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

[Mikey DiRucci]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Well, stupid, polygamy is a red herring. It's not the issue, the issue is gay marriage. Why not start a forum to talk about polygamy? Too dumb to know how to do that? That's my guess.

Polygamy is not a fish. It's marriage worthy of the same respect and consideration as SSM. You just call it a fish because you are a hypocrite.

I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.

Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

If you're going to respond "Polygamy is a red herring!! And you think a red herring is a fish!!" again, don't bother. you already tried that. it failed.

Why are you a hypocrite?

[heartandmind]

KiMare wrote:

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You are playing irresponsible games.
Demanding we head down a road while ignoring the destination.
Not only do you once again expose the weakness of your argument, you expose the lack of character that goes with it.
Smirk.

and you're not playing games yourself? you're dilluting a relationship two consenting adult want to solemnize with vows and obtain those rights the GAO listed a few yrs back (totaling to just over 1300) that are extended to only legally married couples. you're the one trying to tell us that anything other than a male/female married relationship isn't worthy of those vows to one another. you're the one that's smirking at you own (lack) of with, chum, not us.
the issues at hand are regarding the legal contract between 2 consenting adults that wish to marry. stick to the topic. when you can rationally discuss with insulting people, then chime in. without the smartasz smirks and ridiculous comparisons. until then, let the grownups talk at the grown up table.

[heartandmind]

heartandmind wrote:

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and you're not playing games yourself? you're dilluting a relationship two consenting adult want to solemnize with vows and obtain those rights the GAO listed a few yrs back (totaling to just over 1300) that are extended to only legally married couples. you're the one trying to tell us that anything other than a male/female married relationship isn't worthy of those vows to one another. you're the one that's smirking at you own (lack) of wit, chum, not us.
the issues at hand are regarding the legal contract between 2 consenting adults that wish to marry. stick to the topic. when you can rationally discuss withOUT insulting people, then chime in. without the smartasz smirks and ridiculous comparisons. until then, let the grownups talk at the grown up table.

dang lack of coffee in the mornings and being in a hurry.

had to correct the posting.

coffee good. more coffee better.

cheers!

[heartandmind]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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Polygamy is not a fish. It's marriage worthy of the same respect and consideration as SSM. You just call it a fish because you are a hypocrite.
I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.
Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?
If you're going to respond "Polygamy is a red herring!! And you think a red herring is a fish!!" again, don't bother. you already tried that. it failed.
Why are you a hypocrite?

the more important question is : why are you here, in a thread regarding same sex marriage?
another question :
why don't you start a movement on your own to get polygamy legalized? go ahead - hire an attorney and take it to court. we'll read all about it in the news. i look forward to reading about the arguments presented in court. good luck.

[Skippy]

Skippy says: get out of towners are just pests.

[Big D]

heartandmind wrote:

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the more important question is : why are you here, in a thread regarding same sex marriage?
another question :
why don't you start a movement on your own to get polygamy legalized? go ahead - hire an attorney and take it to court. we'll read all about it in the news. i look forward to reading about the arguments presented in court. good luck.

Because he doesn’t actually care at all about the subject, he is only trying to get attention, specifically a reaction from people.

look how many time he asks if someone is mad

that is the goal, talking about one small sad human here

[Mikey DiRucci]

Looks like the judge-it fairy is very busy this morning rigging the judge-its! Priceless!

[Jane Dodo]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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You mean like man does not equal woman?

No. I mean like three does not equal two.

[Jane Dodo]

heartandmind wrote:

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the more important question is : why are you here, in a thread regarding same sex marriage?
another question :
why don't you start a movement on your own to get polygamy legalized? go ahead - hire an attorney and take it to court. we'll read all about it in the news. i look forward to reading about the arguments presented in court. good luck.

Because he's not really interested in polygamy. He's interested in whining.

[Mikey DiRucci]

heartandmind wrote:

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the more important question is : why are you here, in a thread regarding same sex marriage?
another question :
why don't you start a movement on your own to get polygamy legalized? go ahead - hire an attorney and take it to court. we'll read all about it in the news. i look forward to reading about the arguments presented in court. good luck.

Naah. The more important question is why are you against some alternate forms of marriage while at the same time promoting your own alternate form of marriage?

Put more simply, why are you a hypocrite?

I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion of marriage equality, I wish you would participate instead of attempting to censor me.

[Mikey DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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Because he doesn’t actually care at all about the subject, he is only trying to get attention, specifically a reaction from people.
look how many time he asks if someone is mad
that is the goal, talking about one small sad human here

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Mikey DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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Because he doesn’t actually care at all about the subject, he is only trying to get attention, specifically a reaction from people.
look how many time he asks if someone is mad
that is the goal, talking about one small sad human here

This is a discussion forum. It doesn't work if you refuse to discuss the topic and get all angry and have hissy fits. Relax.

Polygamy is marriage, completely on topic in a discussion of marriage equality.

By your rules you cannot mention Mars in a discussion of Venus. Your rules are stupid. And the purpose of them is to censor unwelcome thought. Anti-intellectual and boring.

What a jerk!

[Mikey DiRucci]

Jane Dodo wrote:

<quoted text>No. I mean like three does not equal two.

I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.

Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

If you're going to respond "Polygamy is a red herring!! And you think a red herring is a fish!!" again, don't bother. you already tried that. it failed.

Why are you a hypocrite?

[Jane Dodo]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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Naah. The more important question is why are you against some alternate forms of marriage while at the same time promoting your own alternate form of marriage?
Put more simply, why are you a hypocrite?
I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion of marriage equality, I wish you would participate instead of attempting to censor me.

This thread is about Prop 8. What does Prop 8 have to do with polygamy?

[Mikey DiRucci]

Jane Dodo wrote:

<quoted text>Because he's not really interested in polygamy. He's interested in whining.

I am interested in discussing marriage. This is a discussion forum. It won't work if you treat it like a kindergarten playground and refuse to discuss the topic to hide your bigotry. Tell me why you are against polyamory, don't just whine.

So, before I was so juvenilely interrupted, I was asking you why are you a hypocrite?

[Jane Dodo]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.
Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?
If you're going to respond "Polygamy is a red herring!! And you think a red herring is a fish!!" again, don't bother. you already tried that. it failed.
Why are you a hypocrite?

That lame-ass excuse again?...yawn... It was laughable the first time you posted it, now it's just boring.

[Jane Dodo]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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This is a discussion forum. It doesn't work if you refuse to discuss the topic and get all angry and have hissy fits. Relax.

Um.... the topic is Prop 8.

[Jane Dodo]

Mikey DiRucci wrote:

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I am interested in discussing marriage. This is a discussion forum. It won't work if you treat it like a kindergarten playground and refuse to discuss the topic to hide your bigotry. Tell me why you are against polyamory, don't just whine.
So, before I was so juvenilely interrupted, I was asking you why are you a hypocrite?

Then start your own damn thread. This is about Prop 8. I can understand why you don't wish to discuss it.

[Mikey DiRucci]

Jane Dodo wrote:

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This thread is about Prop 8. What does Prop 8 have to do with polygamy?

Marriage.

[Bed O Winds]

Karzai hasn't the brains to listen to good advice, but rather wants to be friends tot he very thugs who want him buried. Money is the only thing these people want.

Presidnet Karzai can take his BULL back to Afghan where his loving country men will end up burying him in a pine box