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Big D

Modesto, CA

#172286 Dec 25, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a heads up, the Regenarus study has passed all challenges. It stands as the most scientific, extensive, comprehensive study of family types in existence to date.
I know it had a hard time finding long term gay 'families', a problem with stability. Just below single parenting in fact...
:-)
<quoted text>
It won commendations for it's methodology.
It was challenged on six counts and acquitted of every single one.
You just don't like the facts it exposes.
I'm sorry.
Merry Christmas!
<quoted text>
A gay blogger already made that claim.
The study was acquitted on all counts.
That's the true facts, not your (bigoted, ignorant) opinion.
Merry Christmas!
Nothing like the stability of Brittany Spears 3 day marrage
I oatA

West Covina, CA

#172287 Dec 25, 2012
Petition Targeting Macy's, Donald Trump Grows even louder since it's inception before Xmas 2012.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#172288 Dec 25, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a heads up, the Regenarus study has passed all challenges. It stands as the most scientific, extensive, comprehensive study of family types in existence to date.

A gay blogger already made that claim.
The study was acquitted on all counts.
That's the true facts, not your (bigoted, ignorant) opinion.
Merry Christmas!
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing like the stability of Brittany Spears 3 day marrage
Out of 30,000 questioned, 3 is the number of stable gay 'families' they found.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#172289 Dec 25, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
The pagans named their holiday after Christ? I don't think so dummy!
What a dope!
Too funny!
I suggest you educate your self on the origins of Christmas

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/t...

http://rcg.org/books/ttooc.html

http://www.history.com/topics/christmas

what a MAROON, TOO FUNNY

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#172290 Dec 25, 2012
Here is a new and excellent overview of the Regnerus study;

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/
was-the-regnerus-study-on-gay- parenting-defective

"My approach was different than those of the other commentators, who were generally “for” or “against.” My main question was,“How different was what Regnerus did methodologically compared to what other scholars have done in the past ten years when investigating similar issues?” I considered sample selection, sample size, definition of family forms, measurement of sexual orientation, statistical analysis, funding, and consistency of results with other research, citing over 110 examples of other previous research."

"As my own review of other studies shows, however, the wholesale ad hominem attacks on Professor Regnerus and the complete dismissal of all of his methods and professionalism continue to be unjustified, even though his research—as all research—deserves careful scrutiny. His decisions about research design and analysis were within the ball park of what other credible and distinguished researchers have been doing within the past decade."

Merry Christmas!
CrazyJudy

West Covina, CA

#172291 Dec 25, 2012
Crazy Judy maybe one of yu handlers can read this to you since it appears you can't do that either.

The greatest slogan that I hated during this last campaign was We want to take back our country. Guys, it's not your country anymore - it's our country.

Those Tea Party nuts are and always have been on the wrong track, at first you were just attack dogs for the stupid Republican party. But you even bit them, your just plain crazy.

Judy is a puppet on the city council for Glendora, California..

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172292 Dec 25, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you educate your self on the origins of Christmas
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/t...
http://rcg.org/books/ttooc.html
http://www.history.com/topics/christmas
what a MAROON, TOO FUNNY
So why did the pagans name their holiday CHRISTmas moron?

What a dope!
BigMerrys

West Covina, CA

#172293 Dec 25, 2012
I want to give the Glendora Police Department men and women a hardy Merry Christmas and a safe new year.

Starting with the dispatchers, the community service officers, volunteers, reserve officers and the sworn officers.

They need our continued support with the unbelievable position this city has put them into.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172294 Dec 25, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you educate your self on the origins of Christmas
I suggest you slag off Karma dude!

Merry Christmas Jackass!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#172295 Dec 25, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you slag off Karma dude!
Merry Christmas Jackass!
spoken like a true Christian

How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?

Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.

The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes,“In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.” Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681. However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports,“Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”
Rattled

West Covina, CA

#172296 Dec 25, 2012
Is that ARMa or Karma?

Get your pin-head screwed on right next time.
Jane Pudenda

Hoboken, NJ

#172297 Dec 25, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a heads up, the Regenarus study has passed all challenges. It stands as the most scientific, extensive, comprehensive study of family types in existence to date.
I know it had a hard time finding long term gay 'families', a problem with stability. Just below single parenting in fact...
:-)
<quoted text>
It won commendations for it's methodology.
It was challenged on six counts and acquitted of every single one.
You just don't like the facts it exposes.
I'm sorry.
Merry Christmas!
hahaahah
HAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHHAHA
AHAHAHAH

It won commendations for its methodology? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHHAHAHAAHHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA

You are hilarious!

It was NOT acquitted of ANYTHING, you big LIAR. It was never investigated. The University dissmissed the charges because they said there wasn't enough evidence. There was to "trial." It was a very poorly orchestrated cover-up of influence pedalling and propaganda, bought and paid for by anti-gay lunatics. The University of Texas covered its own ass to avoid ethics sanctions that would hurt its accreditation. The only people that arte fooled by what's going on here are people who know absolutely NOTHING about research methodology and validity. A first year sciology student could spot the flaws in this piss-poor excuse for a "study."

You clueless moron crack me up with your blabberings. I mean really. Do you think we don't know any better?
Jane Pudenda

Hoboken, NJ

#172298 Dec 25, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a heads up, the Regenarus study has passed all challenges. It stands as the most scientific, extensive, comprehensive study of family types in existence to date.
I know it had a hard time finding long term gay 'families', a problem with stability. Just below single parenting in fact...
:-)
<quoted text>
It won commendations for it's methodology.
It was challenged on six counts and acquitted of every single one.
You just don't like the facts it exposes.
I'm sorry.
Merry Christmas!
<quoted text>
A gay blogger already made that claim.
The study was acquitted on all counts.
That's the true facts, not your (bigoted, ignorant) opinion.
Merry Christmas!
You can keep repeating that crap all you like. That doesn't change the fact that none of it is true. You are a simple liar.
Jane Pudenda

Hoboken, NJ

#172299 Dec 25, 2012
KiMare wrote:
Here is a new and excellent overview of the Regnerus study;
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/
was-the-regnerus-study-on-gay- parenting-defective
"My approach was different than those of the other commentators, who were generally “for” or “against.” My main question was,“How different was what Regnerus did methodologically compared to what other scholars have done in the past ten years when investigating similar issues?” I considered sample selection, sample size, definition of family forms, measurement of sexual orientation, statistical analysis, funding, and consistency of results with other research, citing over 110 examples of other previous research."
"As my own review of other studies shows, however, the wholesale ad hominem attacks on Professor Regnerus and the complete dismissal of all of his methods and professionalism continue to be unjustified, even though his research—as all research—deserves careful scrutiny. His decisions about research design and analysis were within the ball park of what other credible and distinguished researchers have been doing within the past decade."
Merry Christmas!
Imagine that! Catholic Laity lining up to back-up right-wing horseshit. What a surprise. That's like Goebels writing a letter of recommendation for Hitler. You loons are HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
Jane Pudenda

Hoboken, NJ

#172300 Dec 25, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
So why did the pagans name their holiday CHRISTmas moron?
What a dope!
Wait. Seriously? Are you retarded, or something?
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#172301 Dec 25, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
spoken like a true Christian
How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).
In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.
The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes,“In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.
The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.” Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681. However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.
Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports,“Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”
Your rationale' is not unlike those employed by the Government licensed financial "news" media. Each day, without fail, they claim "the market" is up or the market is down because of this or because of that reason.*(fill in the blank)*. In fact, though, while they promote the self-serving idea that they know more than we, such stated causes have little to do with day to day fluctuations of "the market".

Ronald

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172302 Dec 25, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
spoken like a true Christian
How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).
In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.
The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes,“In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.
The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.” Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681. However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.
Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports,“Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”
Spoken like a true icehole!

Too long and boring to read.

I suppose your point is that pagans are better than Christians, I don't know. Who cares?

Glad I could help!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172303 Dec 25, 2012
Jane Pudenda wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait. Seriously? Are you retarded, or something?
WOOHOOO! Mona Lott's extra mad today!

Is it that Jesus' birthday thing?

TOO FUNNY!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172304 Dec 25, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
spoken like a true Christian
How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).
In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.
The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes,“In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.
The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.” Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681. However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.
Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports,“Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”
No need for the cut and paste silly history lessons that's all well and good and makes you feel superior and all but Christmas was named after Christ lunkhead! Duh.

We get it. You hate Christians. But the topic is same sex marriage. Take your religious stuff to the appropriate thread. It's over by the polygamy threads!

What an icehole!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#172306 Dec 25, 2012
Jane Pudenda wrote:
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