Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

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#169878 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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I think that you shouldn't put up pictures of your wife, if she looks anything like that.
Dat was your mom.... Ya clueless moron

Since: Jun 07

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#169879 Dec 4, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Polygamists already have equal rights.
If someone (living as a) polygamist and a non-polygamist walk into the JP and ask to marry more than one person, they will be told the same thing.
Equal.
Should they be allowed to marry more than one person?
Well, that's a topic for a different forum.
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Polygamists have equal rights.
Thank you for showing everyone you are an idiot.
KochNUTS

Covina, CA

#169880 Dec 4, 2012
Look you sick frigging fools, the GOP, Republicans and Tea Party Idiots have and are driving this country in to the sea with their stupid ideas.

A bunch of Koch Brothers followers.

Since: Jun 07

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#169881 Dec 4, 2012
KochNUTS wrote:
Look you sick frigging fools, the GOP, Republicans and Tea Party Idiots have and are driving this country in to the sea with their stupid ideas.
A bunch of Koch Brothers followers.
Considering the DNC has been pretty much running this country for the last 6 years, I am curious as to how you arrived at this conclusion.
Swords up

Covina, CA

#169883 Dec 4, 2012
There is NO ban anymore, if West Point marries than it's no brainer.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169884 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Due to the lengthy amounts of posts, by you, I am not going to answer them all, as I would run of time for sleep, and that would be dangerous, given what I do for a living. But sometimes, I just have to slap the shit out of you. So here goes...It isn't just MY opinion, it's the opinion of the vast amount of people that have already lived and died. If the Founders wished for that kind of equality to exist, then why weren't gays getting married 200 years ago ? Easy. They were always considered to be aberrations, up until now. They were not considered by the Founders as a serious threat to the society that they were creating, they had common sense. As for the amount of "legally" married couples now in existence, it is because some key lawyers and politicians and such have taken over key positions and decided to inundate us with idiocy. Legislate us into "Idiocracy". Easily answered, and have a good night, a$$hole.
The Founding Fathers wished for a government which allowed all it's citizens a full set of liberties providing those liberties did not produce harm.

We're almost there. Two hundred years ago slavery was in existance, women were second class citizens, Asians could not buy land yet we've managed to bring them up to speed and now it's time to allow gays tohave a full set of freedoms and liberties by allowing them to marry the adult of their choice.

I already said this but there ya go genius.

And as far as gays not being accepted 200 years ago I'll go with that. In case you don't get a calendar advising you what it will be next year after New Years Eve is over it's 2013...not 1813.

We've eveolved as a nation to represent what the Fouding Fathers put in place as a government tghat represents the people. Those people include homosexuals.

By the way...I don't care what you do for a living. I myself sincerely doubt it involves any duties which requires an IQ above that of a trained spider monkey.

As far as me being an asshole....I AM. But I'm spot on by advising you we should let gays marry nationwide.

LOL!!!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169885 Dec 4, 2012
GodZilla wrote:
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Nah,He'd be gagging! LOLOLOL
YUK!YUK!YUK! Real funny one Bill.

What a jackass!
Dan A Sea

Covina, CA

#169886 Dec 4, 2012
Look slicker twit, leave this topic alone.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169887 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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That's right, it's YOUR opinion, but you are wrong, my laughing stock opponent. I leave those heifers for guys like you, the abrasive ones with no class. The class of woman that I am "hooked up with" would hurt your feelings...You wouldn't be able to get my type of woman to even give you the time of day.
I bet.

The woman you'd manage to land would probably get all defensive once I offered to chip in for some plastic surgery by advising me I need to save that money for myself.

She'd no doubt also hurt my eyes given whatever hag you're hooked up with could no doubt peel the paint off a government building and scare junkyard dogs into sterility given her looks.

BAH HAH HAH!!!!
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169889 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Perhaps, by your minority, it is, but the vast majority of us know what is right.
Majority of whom.

Drunkards whose second home is at Ernie's Bar & Pool Hall?

LOL!!!!
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169890 Dec 4, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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So because they are small in number they do not deserve equal rights?
Interesting, in less than a page you have managed to single-handedly dismantle two of your argument's- the argument of equality in marriage rights, and the -a vote of the majority cannot take away the rights of the majority.
Congratulations moron.
Never said that liar.

Next.

Since: Jun 07

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#169891 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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The Founding Fathers wished for a government which allowed all it's citizens a full set of liberties providing those liberties did not produce harm.
Where did the founders include "harm" in their idea of personal freedom and liberty?

If you are going to cite the founders, I suggest you not interject your own opinions into their words.

And when the founders spoke of "freedom and liberty" they included PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Your freedom to be you included my freedom to be free from you. But since we have become a society where we will cater to failure, punish success, and pander to those with a hand out- we are a long way from every truly being as free as we once were.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169892 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Since your canadian, and therefore ignorant, ass doesn't know the truth about america, allow me to educate you. 31 states have not recognized any such stupidity about SSM. Eh ? Vast majority.
A vast majority in the South did not want to free slaves.

A vast majority nationwide did not want women to be able to vote.

Gee dumbass...do you or do you not believe all Americans citizens whose actions prove no harm should or should not be able to hold a full set of rights?

Because so far Junior it's only those you personally approve of and guess what? You never were or will be Emperor of America.

Since: Jun 07

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#169893 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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Never said that liar.
Next.
You didn't say this:

"You can point them out. And you can see their relevance illustrated.
Your problem is you cannot successfully argue the facts brought to your doorstep.
No one cares if polygamists get married dumbshit. For one their numbers are so small they're almost non-existant. Add to that the only things people are concerned about if you can actually find polygamists is that they not coerce, marry underage kiddies or use methods of brainwashing in their practice of polygamy....no different than any other marriage moron.
Your inner bigot came out a long time ago with your sad effort at staining gay marriage so I'd shaddup hypocrit."

Seriously Dan, if you can't keep up with your own nonsense, how do you expect anyone else to?
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169894 Dec 4, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
Well, playing "slap the troll" is fun, but I do not have enough time to seriously dig in, right now, gotta go. Have fun kids.
I begin to wonder if you call your own dick a troll at this point.

Since: Jun 07

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#169895 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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A vast majority in the South did not want to free slaves.
A vast majority nationwide did not want women to be able to vote.
Gee dumbass...do you or do you not believe all Americans citizens whose actions prove no harm should or should not be able to hold a full set of rights?
Because so far Junior it's only those you personally approve of and guess what? You never were or will be Emperor of America.
So you do not believe in the right of succession?

Our founders did.

Since: Jun 07

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#169896 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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I begin to wonder if you call your own dick a troll at this point.
There goes Dan, thinking about another guy's dick again.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169897 Dec 4, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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Where did the founders include "harm" in their idea of personal freedom and liberty?
If you are going to cite the founders, I suggest you not interject your own opinions into their words.
And when the founders spoke of "freedom and liberty" they included PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Your freedom to be you included my freedom to be free from you. But since we have become a society where we will cater to failure, punish success, and pander to those with a hand out- we are a long way from every truly being as free as we once were.
Nah....I'm familiar with Constitution and the introduction of the Amendments by our Founding Fathers in that they knew there would be aspects dealing with the freedoms of Americans that would come up.

Very forward thinking by them.

Lincoln was able to pass the 13th Amendment for instance which abolished slavery.

So no dumbfuck...it's not a matter of me interjecting anything. It's already there and has been acted upon.

As far as freedoms which groups and some individuals clamor for they are reviewed on the basis of harm. Fact.

You really need to go to school one day or at least do a little studying prior to holding your obviouss idiotic opinions which you seem so willing to share in here.

Now there's a group who think having sex with little boys is the best treat out there. And many of them think it should be made legal. They think it should be a right...an allowed freedom. They claim the little boys like it and it only adds to their experience in life.

Now hopefully you're in the same camp I am in that we know it produces harm. Therefore it will never be a freedom the members of NAMBLA (the pedophiles group who thinks little Boy Scouts are a tasty treat) will be able to have because of this.

As far as gays wanting to marry...they should be able to. There is no inherent harm found and it is a freedom a grouping of Americans want.

Now before you go back to playing your sad game of why not polygamy you need to take that up with the government...not me. They determined harm in it. I myself could care less unless those reasons I gave earlier apply.

Kindle. They make Kindles which are online books. Get one. Read a little about the world and especially our nation before spouting off even more ignorance.

Have a good night punk.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169898 Dec 4, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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So you do not believe in the right of succession?
Our founders did.
England has succession. When one king or queen dies another monarch is set to take it's place.

They do, however, have a parliment which holds sway over most governmental duties and which is democratic in nature so their royal monarchy is only there for appearances and national pride.

The only succession here might be when a father that founded a company hands over the reigns to his offspring.

As far as "believing" in it, I know it exists.

Pretty stupid question to ask in a thread about gays marrying though given it holds no relevance.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169899 Dec 4, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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So you do not believe in the right of succession?
Our founders did.
And no genius...succession dealt with the monarchy of the country we severed ties with during our revolution in the late 1700's.

Our Founding Fathers believed in democracy moron.

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