So now you defend polygamy so you think I must pay for that too? One man knocking up 5+ wives and someone else pays the bill? Yea I see your reasioning one with a goverment job can supply sham benifits to as many as they wish. I know your loving it.<quoted text>
Sort of like the difficulty posed for gays by Jeffrey Dalmer?
Some polygamists in the past were bad. Therefore all polygamists are bad?
Lose that knee jerk reaction to polygamy. We're not talking about child rape, kidnapping, forced or coerced marriages or any crimes. We're talking about a loving relationship among consenting adults.
Why would that harm anyone? Hold the bigoted nonsense please.
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#169671 Dec 2, 2012
#169672 Dec 2, 2012
Not really given I've already answered it but with your selective reading ability I'll spell it out yet again.
Polygamy is deemed harmful by the government based on past experience with it in dealing with cults which have tendacies to use techniques which amount to bondage, brain washing younger members and many include under aged brides.
The information is readily available so my thoughts lead me to think you and the other clown in here pointing to polygamy when discussing gay marriage do so only as a deflective posture in a lame effort of playing games when discussing homosexual marriage.
My personal opinion is that there are so few polygamists that as long as they don't involve themselves in harmful activities such as those advised by the governments resistance towards them I could give a shit less.
So you really have no point in your inclusion of it when discussing the marriage or Wendy to Sally dumbass.
Since: Jun 07
#169673 Dec 2, 2012
So you think the government has the right to control your personal relationships so long as they simply claim it to be "harmful" first??
Tell me again who the dumbass is?
#169674 Dec 2, 2012
Prop 8 is not only opposed by church people. I seldom go to church but I respect the ancient teachings that you obviously can't or do not want to comprehend. You probably think Hiv came along in the 80. The ancients knew anal sex caused death a long time ago.
#169675 Dec 2, 2012
Someone has so little confidence in their selfish “same sex co-copulating marriage” position all they can do is click judge it.
#169676 Dec 2, 2012
The aspect of allowing gays to marry involves itself with the expansion of basic liberties to a grouping of American citizens whom have been previously denied those freedoms...specifically of being allowed to marry the adult of their choice.
Your post above is a sad lie in that you want to infer I would support the government as an entity to control relationships that "they" determine harmful.
First off understand our government is formatted by the people for the purpose of allowing us as U.S. citizens to govern ourselves as free peoples. The fact that the government determined polygamy a problematic and harmful insitution was based on their past occurances with that said insitution in that they found harmful elements such as cultist aspects which led to underage marriages and unwarranted control of subjects within those cults.
I never made the statement you claim nor did I deliver anything which led to that direction...I merely advised facts.
So I can safely point ot you as not only being the dumbass here but as a liar.
#169677 Dec 2, 2012
Marriage involves itself with the basic elements of mutual attraction, a shared love and a willingess to commit to a legal union amongst adults.
Gays can perform that circus trick as well as heterosexuals.
HJeterosexual marriages often times produce horribly abused children so your blanket claim inference that heterosexual marriages protect children more than gay families is incorrect.
There are studies 9several in fact) which displace this generalistic and unbased claim.
As far as identifying a gay marriage with proper wording I think the most accurate would be "marriage" itself since it encompasses the fact you can have 2 same sex members get hitched.
I'm here to help friend....all you have to do is ask.
#169678 Dec 2, 2012
Not at all.
Heterosexuals will remain attracted to heterosexuals and gays will remain attracted to adults of the same sex so your claim of gays marrying 'devaluing gender differences in human relating' holds no place in fact.
The only logic you need to comprehend is based on the fact that we as individual adults are attracted to our own set of aspects.
I like women with little bitty titties.
I never was one to go out with chiquitas who had breasts the size of pumpkins that would win the 2013 Iowa State Fair.
We're individualistic in nature as to what drives our magnets.
Some of those in our society find attraction with select adults whom are of the same sex.
The only logic is just that....we all have our own little lust factors friend.
#169679 Dec 2, 2012
Find a link between gays marrying and Bill Clinton getting a wet blowjob by Monika Lewinski or any other marital infraction amongst married couples.
Making a gbeneralistic statement such as you have done in baseless.
Provide proof. You know...substance because you came to the party with an empty bag buddy.
As far as gay men having more sexual partners I'd cast a shadow of doubt on that given little ol' heterosexual me and most of my friends had little black books which would make the Yellow Pages for New York City look like an instructual pamphlet for a Sears toaster friend.
Good God buddy. Are you for real???
#169680 Dec 2, 2012
Never heard of a "gay cult" yet.
Never heard of a brother wanting to marry his sister either.
Incestuious marriages??? Never heard of one of those either.
Harm in polygamy?I could give a shit LESS if some fool thinks it would be fun to marry 3 women. Good God...the man might commit suicide within the span of 2 years. As long as those women were no coerced through cult surroundings, were minors and knew of each other.
Grasp for straws somewhere else punk.
#169681 Dec 2, 2012
A false understanding of homosexuality?
So if Suzy wants to marry Tammy in part because they're more attracted to each other than a starving Rocky Mountain grizzer bear likes honey there's a "falseness" to their attraction???
Are you on drugs Senor Hudson?
The fact you deem homosexuality immoral is based on your own opinion and not shared fact. Do not present it as such bullshitter.
The origins of homosexuality are unknown...so your claim it's not genetically based is moot.
Add to that there is a direct correlation betweens past bans on marriage based on ethnic nature and homosexuality in that they were both denied the ability to marry based on judgements in regards to the parties involved in terms of their makeup. In short we were denying adults the aspect of marriage because we disliked their adult of choice. We as a free people based on the Constitution which we are all founded on should not be able to deny basic liberties or freedoms to other citizens unless those said liberties produce harm.
Again....gay marriage has shown no viable harm.
Disagree....find specifics and advise...otherwise shut up because you have nothing to offer.
Since: Nov 12
#169682 Dec 2, 2012
It's about the only thing I agree with him on. And I noticed it wasn't very popular with the Liberals that love the big unions.
#169683 Dec 2, 2012
Incorrect and baseless.
Racism deals which preferential treatment and opinion based solely on race.
Claiming gay marriage makes it's opponents racist is a little like claiming those who don't like watching NASCAR will be targeted by the Girl Scouts for elimination.
It's a completely ignorant statement in that there is no causation factor nor can you identify one.
The term 'bigots' envelopes a large grouping of people including racists, those who don't like cross eyed women and those who would make efforts to deny a group of individuals freedoms based on the fact they are gay. Racists are but a segment of what could be determined a bigot.
If the term makes you shift in your seat because it's that uncomfortable do one of two things. Live in denial or embrace it if you truly think gays are second class citizens.
I have my own set of bigotry I have to stare at but I don't play mental games on myself like you have to use as a format of denial. I don't like certain aspects of the gay culture myself friend but I've come to recognize it's my problem if I choose to live a a country which gives freedoms to all of it's citizens and not just those I prefer.
It's a choice. Live in this great country and back what it is or move to fucking China or North Korea where they also think only a select few should hold a few set of liberties and freedoms based on a narrow mindset.
#169684 Dec 2, 2012
Gay marriage may increase homosexual SEX amongst homosexuals no different than heterosexual marriage given you now have a sexual partner sitting next to you while you watch Jeopardy and don't have to drive for miles on a rainy night to get a slice of love but if you're to infer it increases the numbers of homosexuals that's a baseless lie.
As far as experimenting during sex all I can say is don't do the Lone Ranger bit.
I did. Rode the range on my stick horse naked sans a pair of boots, Stetson and toy gunbelt into my bedroom where a topless Pocahontas was waiting for me only to have my handy six shooter shift leaving a bruised notch on my love stick.
#169685 Dec 2, 2012
No it doesn't any more than allowing differing races to marry opened the door to allow Farmer Brown to marry his favorite milking cow Bessie you moron.
And if polygamists want to make the fight to legalize their particular aspect of marriage it's within their right but polygamy is a completely separate entity which stands on it's own merits.
#169686 Dec 2, 2012
In terms of global focus I would think economics and war overshasow your concern Harfry marries Ted little man.
Each country is it's own entity with their own sets of statutes and laws. We're focused on our country when it comes to gays marrying dumbass.
As far as the aspect of "bewildering issues" those already exist within the legal system and I can see no substantial increase due to gays marrying despite your fears.
Gays marrying pose more benefit than harm in any case given they can provide orphans and foster childrewn with healthy families to grow up in, incresae businesses associated with their being and will strengthen us as a free nation which is cased on the Constitution to name but a few aspects.
In your frame of thought we should squash liberties to other persons based on disdain to avoid possible court cases. Don't allow boat enthusiasts to own boats....many end up in court. Don't allow fat people to marry...they have a higher risk of death from sex let alone their kids may carry the gene that made them overweight.
We could draw out ALL freedoms and ban them on the few negative aspects freedoms inherently have you complete dipshit.
You need to find a country which embraces your thoughts of the limitation of basic liberties amongst it's citizens because it's not this country Ace.
Since: Jun 07
#169687 Dec 2, 2012
You can dance all you like, but the fact that you feel compelled and quite comfortable in denying marriage rights to a select few because they have been found to cause "harm" by the government, shows how bigoted and blinded by your own personal crusade you are.
The only dumbass here is you Dan. You are just so much of a dumbass that you can't see it.
#169688 Dec 2, 2012
Since when were generalist unsupported baseless claims 'rational and lucid'?
The only thing you brought to show and tell was your opinion dumbfuck.
#169689 Dec 2, 2012
Here's your second lie of the night.
I never denied marriage to polygamists.
'Dumbass'...wear the sign.
#169690 Dec 2, 2012
The only double standard exists when heterosexuals want to ban homosexuals from marrying.
It's OK for heterosexuals to marry given it's a basic liberty all American adults should have but not homosexuals albeit they too are American citizens wishing to pursue a freedom which exhibits no harm.
You just got busted son.
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