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Big D

Modesto, CA

#169292 Nov 28, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You're right he is a dope, I deal with him on the elk grove forum all the time, he has a hard time figuring out things, interesting is he is on a pot topic a lot, go figure with his name, Big Dope. lol.
You donít like it when people actually know what they are talking about is your problem

The house votes whether an impeachment exists, without that vote there is no impeachment, the senate tires the impeachment and it succeeds or fails there.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169293 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
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Read your constitution, it clearly states that the senate tries impeachments.
come back when you know more, there is nothing for me to admit, I already know what happend, it is history.
I have read the Constitution I even pasted it in here for you since you can't seem to read it yourself.

Without being IMPEACHED there is no TRIAL in the SENATE. Clinton is IMPEACHED, he will always be IMPEACHED, the Senate cannot change that.

The Senate has the power to TRY IMPEACHMENTS- How can they "TRY" the accused/IMPEACHED if they "IMPEACHMENT FAILED" as you claim.

You don't even have a basic understanding of how this process works. Look us up when concepts like 2+2 no longer confuse you.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169294 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You donít like it when people actually know what they are talking about is your problem
The house votes whether an impeachment exists, without that vote there is no impeachment, the senate tires the impeachment and it succeeds or fails there.
TOO Funny!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169295 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You donít like it when people actually know what they are talking about is your problem
The problem is you have no idea what you are talking about.

Concepts like Grand Jury confuse you don't they?

The impeachment is a process which ONLY occurs in the House. That is where the indictment is drafted, and charges are decided upon. Then there is a vote as to if there is enough evidence to move the issue to trial- that is the IMPEACHMENT. The IMPEACHMENT succeeds or fails in the HOUSE, the Senate has nothing to do with it. As you say- READ THE CONSTITUTION!!!!

At that point, the IMPEACHED is tried in the Senate. The Formal charges are presented to the Senate, and a trial of the accused is commenced. The Senate then decides if the IMPEACHED shall be removed from office (Convicted) or Acquitted. The Senate does not decide to Impeach or NOT Impeach, that has already been decided by the House.

You seem to think impeachment means the removal of the President from office, it is not. It is simply one step in the TWO step process. Step 1: IMPEACHMENT Step 2: TRIAL

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#169296 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You donít like it when people actually know what they are talking about is your problem
The house votes whether an impeachment exists, without that vote there is no impeachment, the senate tires the impeachment and it succeeds or fails there.
lol..i just enjoy observing your hard head. You just don't seem to get it. I feel sorry for your beginning history teachers. I bet you flunked that course several times. Oops I forgot, we pass everybody now days.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169297 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I know he wasnít, your successful impeachment didnít do a darn thing, but you think it was a total success so I thought I would just humor you along until the men in the white suits come and pick you up. Not one thing listed in the articles of impeachment were actually applied. ZipÖ nadaÖ a total failure.
It failed in the senate that is history, Just like the previous impeachment of Andrew Johnson did.
but you want to believe they were successes and I donít want to strain your already strained mind
My grandfather told me if one person says you are wrong you can shine it on. If two people say you are wrong you'd better start listening. And if three or more people say you are wrong, you are probably wrong, son.

But you're a wise old man and I'm a dumb little junior high school kid repeating stuff my grandpa said so maybe you know better than him and me!

Funny Stuff!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169298 Nov 28, 2012
I donít care who you ask, we already know what happened, it is history.

Iím not going to argue with the flat earth society, we already know better.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169299 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
I donít care who you ask, we already know what happened, it is history.
Iím not going to argue with the flat earth society, we already know better.
Yes, it is history. Look up "IMPEACHED PRESIDENTS" and there you will find Mr Clinton in all his glory, listed right along side Johnson.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169300 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
I donít care who you ask, we already know what happened, it is history.
Iím not going to argue with the flat earth society, we already know better.
Oh hell yeah! That's the attitude old man! Chin up! Don't let 'em "fail" you too!

Funny stuff!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169301 Nov 28, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it is history. Look up "IMPEACHED PRESIDENTS" and there you will find Mr Clinton in all his glory, listed right along side Johnson.
He's gonna insist "Yes he was impeached and the impeachment failed"

Sort of like "yes he died and the death failed".

Funny stuff!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169302 Nov 28, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it is history. Look up "IMPEACHED PRESIDENTS" and there you will find Mr Clinton in all his glory, listed right along side Johnson.
of course he is, I never said he was not impeached, not once.

I did say ( and it is true ) that the impeachment failed in the senate, and it did.

OJ Simpson was charged too, the criminal case failed at trial

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169303 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
of course he is, I never said he was not impeached, not once.
I did say ( and it is true ) that the impeachment failed in the senate, and it did.
OJ Simpson was charged too, the criminal case failed at trial
No moron, the Conviction failed, the impeachment was quite successful.

And the same would be true in the OJ case. The Indictment (Impeachment) was most certainly successful as it went to trial. During the trial they failed to CONVICT. Doesn't change the fact that OJ was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE Indicted by a GRAND JURY..

You think you are being cute by parsing words, but all you are really doing is showing how limited your understanding is of the judicial process in this country.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169304 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
of course he is, I never said he was not impeached, not once.
I did say ( and it is true ) that the impeachment failed in the senate, and it did...

No it didn't.

Nana nana nana!

Big Fun!
Can you ear me

La Puente, CA

#169305 Nov 28, 2012
Can you ear me? me now?
Winston Smith

Washington, DC

#169306 Nov 28, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
To sum up for stubborn jackasses:
Clinton was impeached. The impeachment didn't fail. It went to the Senate where he was acquitted. One consequence of his impeachment was that he was disbarred by the Supreme Court.
As I've said countless times, I didn't support the whole politically motivated farce. So save the talk of hard-ons for your partner tough guy!
What a stubborn dope!
It also kept things busy for the gubbamint for a bit of time as well as kept the population's attention on the impeachment proceedings, thus keeping our minds off more important things, like them all acting like legislators. A big success in that light.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169307 Nov 28, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
No moron, the Conviction failed, the impeachment was quite successful.
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ROFLMAO...

if you are beating your chest that the house can vote to make charges that have no possibility to ever stick, and call that a success, no wonder the GOP is on the decline.

I hope you have more success like that, oh thatís right you did, you have the same kind of success with John McCain, and Mitt Romney, you are just basking in success

LOL

Of course the constitution specifically states that the senate tries impeachments, and your successful impeachment didnít get enough votes to pass, and died there, what a tremendous success!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169308 Nov 28, 2012
Tell you what lest bring this back to topic

I sincerely hope you have the same tremendous success with the supreme court, that you successfully make the case against same sex marriage and then donít get enough votes to actually make it law, and same sex marriage continues to expand every year, the same way Clinton continued to be president after that oh so successful impeachment which included his removal from office right in the doccument.

what a wonderful success for you!:)

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169309 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
I donít care who you ask, we already know what happened, it is history.
Iím not going to argue with the flat earth society, we already know better.
Who's "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?

HAR!HAR!HAR!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169310 Nov 28, 2012
You cant learn, so I will just join you.

What a wonderful success that impeachment was, I hope every endeavor you ever have is as successful as that one was, achieving as many goals.:)

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169311 Nov 28, 2012
Big D wrote:
Tell you what lest bring this back to topic
I sincerely hope you have the same tremendous success with the supreme court, that you successfully make the case against same sex marriage and then donít get enough votes to actually make it law, and same sex marriage continues to expand every year, the same way Clinton continued to be president after that oh so successful impeachment which included his removal from office right in the doccument.
what a wonderful success for you!:)
Clinton didn't get removed from office you dolt! How many times do I have to tell you?

Don't know who you are posting to but if it's me, I didn't support Clinton's impeachment and I do support same sex marriage. So your assumptions and your cute little speech while amusing, are misdirected and idiotic.

The only trouble is, you're a dope!

Smirk.

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