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The police officers took cover, but at least one Border Patrol agent went to the fence and opened fire on Jose Antonio Elena Rodriguez, who was shot seven times, according to Mexican authorities.

[Mona Lott]

Big D wrote:

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not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I don’t.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up

The Senate doesn't try impeachments.

[Big D]

Mona Lott wrote:

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The Senate doesn't try impeachments.

Wrong

Article 1 clause 6 of our constitution

Clause 6: Trial of Impeachments


The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

[NonPsycho Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I don’t.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up

When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".

[Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

<quoted text>
not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I don’t.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up

Too funny!

[Big D]

NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:

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When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".

It transmorgified? What are you... Calvin? ROFL

Not according to our constitution it didn’t

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Pappa Johns Pizza, Jerk owner who threateded to reduce his employees working hours because President Obama won his second term in office has another SELF made problem to deal with.

[Mike DiRucci]

NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:

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When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".

Funny Stuff!

[Big D]

The constitution does not give the Senate the power to try court cases, only impeachments

No the documents did not transmogrify when the House passed the articles of Impeachment to the Senate

[Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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It transmorgified? What are you... Calvin? ROFL
Not according to our constitution it didn’t

Having fun now!

[Big D]

Mike DiRucci wrote:

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Having fun now!

A blast, It is absolutely hilarious how people are emotionally tied to this.

Funny as heck

All the info is there, but they have this emotional need that the truth doesn’t fulfill, so they make stuff up.

We have recently heard

A denial of what our constitution actually says

And now the words that change depending on who is looking at a document.

[Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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A blast, It is absolutely hilarious how people are emotionally tied to this.
Funny as heck
All the info is there, but they have this emotional need that the truth doesn’t fulfill, so they make stuff up.
We have recently heard
A denial of what our constitution actually says
And now the words that change depending on who is looking at a document.

As I stated when I started this silliness, I like Slick Willy and thought the whole affair was a politically motivated farce. But I have no "emotional need" to say silly sh!t like Clinton's impeachment was a "failure"!

Give it up. Clinton was impeached.

What a dope!

[Big D]

Mike DiRucci wrote:

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As I stated when I started this silliness, I like Slick Willy and thought the whole affair was a politically motivated farce. But I have no "emotional need" to say silly sh!t like Clinton's impeachment was a "failure"!
Give it up. Clinton was impeached.
What a dope!

I never said he wasn’t impeached, he was impeached by the house, and then the impeachment failed in the senate and not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was implemented

I am not a fan of Slick Willy, I wish the impeachment had been successful myself. We would be living in a very different situation ( my opinion better ) if it had been successful.

I personally blame Bill Clinton for the disaster of the president that followed him.

[NonPsycho Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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Wrong
Article 1 clause 6 of our constitution
Clause 6: Trial of Impeachments
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

"Trial"

OF

"Impeachments".

The Senate's action is to "Try" the case based on the "charges" (aka: "impeachments").

Whether the "Trial" is a success or failure, depends on if you think Clinton was guilty or not. Or if you're a democrat or republican.

[Mona Lott]

Big D wrote:

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I never said he wasn’t impeached, he was impeached by the house, and then the impeachment failed in the senate

If the impeachment failed, then he wasn't impeached.

[Big D]

Yes...they try... "Impeachments"

and they pass or fail In their trial there
It passed in the house.. he was impeached by the house, and failed in the senate where “Impeachments” are tired.

The impeachment was a charge made by the house, and regardless of if I think the was innocent or guilty, the charge, the impeachment... failed in the senate on Feb 12 1999

are we finally getting somewhere?

[Big D]

Mona Lott wrote:

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If the impeachment failed, then he wasn't impeached.

No

He was impeached by the house, but the impeachment failed in its trial in the senate.

Read the constitution and come back

[Mike DiRucci]

NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:

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"Trial"
OF
"Impeachments".
The Senate's action is to "Try" the case based on the "charges" (aka: "impeachments").
Whether the "Trial" is a success or failure, depends on if you think Clinton was guilty or not. Or if you're a democrat or republican.

SCRAM troll!

[Mona Lott]

Big D wrote:

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I never said he wasn’t impeached, he was impeached by the house, and then the impeachment failed in the senate and not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was implemented
I am not a fan of Slick Willy, I wish the impeachment had been successful myself. We would be living in a very different situation ( my opinion better ) if it had been successful.
I personally blame Bill Clinton for the disaster of the president that followed him.

Look.

He was impeached by the House. He WAS impeached. PERIOD. You can call what happened in the Senate whatever you want. You can use whatever adjectives or adverbs make you happy. Impeachment is done by the House. Bill Clinton was impeached. END OF STORY.

Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

SEPARATE FROM THE ACT OF IMPEACHMENT ITSELF.

[Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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No
He was impeached by the house, but the impeachment failed in its trial in the senate.
Read the constitution and come back

No.

Funny!