Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Big D wrote:
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I have never said that once, he was impeached by the house, and the impeachment failed in the senate on Feb 12 1999
and the intent of the impeachment to remove Clinton from office did not happen because the impeachment failed.
If the impeachment failed then how was Clinton impeached?

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

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Nov 14, 2012
 
NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:
I can't believe youse guys is still arguing this:
Impeachment is only a step in a longer process:
Step 1: House votes on impeachment. Yes = success. No = failure.
If "yes", on to step 2.
Step 2: Trial in Senate. At this point, the "impeachment" phase is over and it is no longer an impeachment, it is a Trial. Then on to Step 3.
Step 3: Verdict. If verdict is "No" end of process. If verdict is "Yes", on to Step 4.
Step 4: Punishment.
So let's review:
Yes, we had an impeachment. Since we had a Trial, the impeachment was a "success".
We had a Trial, and we had a verdict of "No". Depending on your view, you can take that as a success or a failure.
Look at it this way: Impeachment is like starting your car in the morning. If it starts, success! Now, if you're driving down the road, drop your coffee, look down to retrieve it, look up, suddenly realize that you've drifted over the center line and are about to run head-long into a bus, yank the wheel right, overcompensate and bounce off the K-rail projecting your car hard to the left, crossing all lanes of traffic and careen down the cliff on the far side of the road, you may have failed in your ultimate objective, but the impeachment--I mean--"starting of the car" was still a success.
You are correct.

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Big D

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Nov 14, 2012
 
NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:
I can't believe youse guys is still arguing this:
Impeachment is only a step in a longer process:
Step 1: House votes on impeachment. Yes = success. No = failure.
If "yes", on to step 2.
Step 2: Trial in Senate. At this point, the "impeachment" phase is over and it is no longer an impeachment, it is a Trial. Then on to Step 3.
Step 3: Verdict. If verdict is "No" end of process. If verdict is "Yes", on to Step 4.
Step 4: Punishment.
So let's review:
Yes, we had an impeachment. Since we had a Trial, the impeachment was a "success".
We had a Trial, and we had a verdict of "No". Depending on your view, you can take that as a success or a failure.
Look at it this way: Impeachment is like starting your car in the morning. If it starts, success! Now, if you're driving down the road, drop your coffee, look down to retrieve it, look up, suddenly realize that you've drifted over the center line and are about to run head-long into a bus, yank the wheel right, overcompensate and bounce off the K-rail projecting your car hard to the left, crossing all lanes of traffic and careen down the cliff on the far side of the road, you may have failed in your ultimate objective, but the impeachment--I mean--"starting of the car" was still a success.
not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I donít.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up
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Nov 14, 2012
 
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not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I donít.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up
The Senate doesn't try impeachments.
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#168026
Nov 14, 2012
 
Mona Lott wrote:
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The Senate doesn't try impeachments.
Wrong

Article 1 clause 6 of our constitution

Clause 6: Trial of Impeachments


The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
NonPsycho Mike DiRucci

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Big D wrote:
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not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I donít.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up
When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Big D wrote:
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not sure which side you are arguing on.
Yes he was impeached by the house who have the sole power to impeach
No the impeachment did not pass trial in the senate which has the power to try impeachments
Not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was carried out because it did not pass the sennate
They may call that a success, I donít.
I have never once said he was not impeached, I have said ( repeatedly ) that the impeachment failed in the senate ( which it did ) and that was the end of it, not a single intent of the impeachment for punishment called for was carried out.
Maybe it is the word "successful" they need to look up
Too funny!
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NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:
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When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".
It transmorgified? What are you... Calvin? ROFL

Not according to our constitution it didnít
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Pappa Johns Pizza, Jerk owner who threateded to reduce his employees working hours because President Obama won his second term in office has another SELF made problem to deal with.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
NonPsycho Mike DiRucci wrote:
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When it reached the Senate, it ceased to be an "impeachment", it transfigured into a "trial".
Funny Stuff!
Big D

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#168032
Nov 14, 2012
 
The constitution does not give the Senate the power to try court cases, only impeachments

No the documents did not transmogrify when the House passed the articles of Impeachment to the Senate

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Big D wrote:
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It transmorgified? What are you... Calvin? ROFL
Not according to our constitution it didnít
Having fun now!
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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Having fun now!
A blast, It is absolutely hilarious how people are emotionally tied to this.

Funny as heck

All the info is there, but they have this emotional need that the truth doesnít fulfill, so they make stuff up.

We have recently heard

A denial of what our constitution actually says

And now the words that change depending on who is looking at a document.

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Big D wrote:
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A blast, It is absolutely hilarious how people are emotionally tied to this.
Funny as heck
All the info is there, but they have this emotional need that the truth doesnít fulfill, so they make stuff up.
We have recently heard
A denial of what our constitution actually says
And now the words that change depending on who is looking at a document.
As I stated when I started this silliness, I like Slick Willy and thought the whole affair was a politically motivated farce. But I have no "emotional need" to say silly sh!t like Clinton's impeachment was a "failure"!

Give it up. Clinton was impeached.

What a dope!
Big D

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Mike DiRucci wrote:
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As I stated when I started this silliness, I like Slick Willy and thought the whole affair was a politically motivated farce. But I have no "emotional need" to say silly sh!t like Clinton's impeachment was a "failure"!
Give it up. Clinton was impeached.
What a dope!
I never said he wasnít impeached, he was impeached by the house, and then the impeachment failed in the senate and not a single penalty called for in the impeachment was implemented

I am not a fan of Slick Willy, I wish the impeachment had been successful myself. We would be living in a very different situation ( my opinion better ) if it had been successful.

I personally blame Bill Clinton for the disaster of the president that followed him.
NonPsycho Mike DiRucci

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#168037
Nov 14, 2012
 
Big D wrote:
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Wrong
Article 1 clause 6 of our constitution
Clause 6: Trial of Impeachments
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
"Trial"

OF

"Impeachments".

The Senate's action is to "Try" the case based on the "charges" (aka: "impeachments").

Whether the "Trial" is a success or failure, depends on if you think Clinton was guilty or not. Or if you're a democrat or republican.
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Big D wrote:
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I never said he wasnít impeached, he was impeached by the house, and then the impeachment failed in the senate
If the impeachment failed, then he wasn't impeached.
Big D

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#168039
Nov 14, 2012
 
Yes...they try... "Impeachments"

and they pass or fail In their trial there
It passed in the house.. he was impeached by the house, and failed in the senate where ďImpeachmentsĒ are tired.

The impeachment was a charge made by the house, and regardless of if I think the was innocent or guilty, the charge, the impeachment... failed in the senate on Feb 12 1999

are we finally getting somewhere?
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Mona Lott wrote:
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If the impeachment failed, then he wasn't impeached.
No

He was impeached by the house, but the impeachment failed in its trial in the senate.

Read the constitution and come back

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