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DumpDonald

Covina, CA

#167897 Nov 13, 2012
Winston Smith

Sykesville, MD

#167898 Nov 13, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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It's not very expensive. We pay congress anyway, may as well get some useful work out of them!
The 2012 campaigns cost $4 billion dollars. That's expensive!
Not very expensive you say? You wanna hand over the same amount, in cash, to me? It won't be very useful, you know it would be partisan. Not enough "partisan" in the Senate to convict. Why bother? It won't be useful at all.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#167899 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, and that indictment failed at trial in the Senate on Feb 12 1999
we can use whatever words you like, outcome is the same
What? The indictment failed? Oh come on. He was acquitted of the charges in the indictment at trial, but the indictment did not fail.... the HOUSE PASSED IT!!!!!!!!!! JESUS!
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#167900 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
and failed in the sennate feb 12 1999, unfortnuatly, I wish it had not failed, but it did.
The Senate DOES NOT vote on impeachment.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#167901 Nov 13, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>What? The indictment failed? Oh come on. He was acquitted of the charges in the indictment at trial, but the indictment did not fail.... the HOUSE PASSED IT!!!!!!!!!! JESUS!
Yes, you can have an indictment with no evidence whatsoever, just takes a popular vote in the case of an impeachment.

And Indictment has to go through the courts to succeed, and in an impeachments case, it has to be tried in the senate, where it failed on Feb 12 1999

A shame really, I suspect we would have been spared 8 years of one of the worst presidents in American history had it succeeded.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#167902 Nov 13, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Not very expensive you say? You wanna hand over the same amount, in cash, to me? It won't be very useful, you know it would be partisan. Not enough "partisan" in the Senate to convict. Why bother? It won't be useful at all.
There are good reasons to go through the expense of an impeachment if it ever becomes necessary.

It can be very useful and necessary. That's why we have it. We can just cut off foreign aid to one of the smaller countries that hates us for a day or two, that will more than cover the expense.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#167903 Nov 13, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>The Senate DOES NOT vote on impeachment.
No a Senate tries an impeachment that is voted on in the house, and in the case of Clinton the impeachment failed Feb 12 1999 in the senate.

Again, I never said once that he was not impeached, I said the impeachment failed, which it did.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#167904 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you can have an indictment with no evidence whatsoever, just takes a popular vote in the case of an impeachment.
And Indictment has to go through the courts to succeed, and in an impeachments case, it has to be tried in the senate, where it failed on Feb 12 1999
A shame really, I suspect we would have been spared 8 years of one of the worst presidents in American history had it succeeded.
How would Clinton's impeachment have spared us Obama?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#167905 Nov 13, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Not very expensive you say? You wanna hand over the same amount, in cash, to me? It won't be very useful, you know it would be partisan. Not enough "partisan" in the Senate to convict. Why bother? It won't be useful at all.
That is why impeachment doesnít happen all the time, usually a House is a tad more mature than that to waste our time and money that way on something that has no chance of succeeding.

It was a total waste of time and money.

Granted we would likely be a lot better off today had the impeachment succeeded.

But hindsight is 20-20

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#167906 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No a Senate tries an impeachment that is voted on in the house, and in the case of Clinton the impeachment failed Feb 12 1999 in the senate.
Again, I never said once that he was not impeached, I said the impeachment failed, which it did.
No it didn't. nana nana nana!
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#167907 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you can have an indictment with no evidence whatsoever, just takes a popular vote in the case of an impeachment.
And Indictment has to go through the courts to succeed, and in an impeachments case, it has to be tried in the senate, where it failed on Feb 12 1999
A shame really, I suspect we would have been spared 8 years of one of the worst presidents in American history had it succeeded.
Like I said, the Senate DOES NOT vote on impeachment.

Where did you get the idea that "an indictment has to go through the courts to succeed?" A grand jury votes to indict. Period. The defendant is indicted. Whether it goes to trial or what happens at trial has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INDICTMENT.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#167908 Nov 13, 2012
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
TIME TO DIE:
U.N. ADS PROMOTE KILLING OFF THE ELDERLY.
Hey all you wrinkly, middle-aged has-beens: Are you ready to move over and let the next generation have your spot on the planet? After all, youíve lived a good life. And your aging body is going to cost taxpayers a lot more than the salt you think you are worth. In other words, your return-on-investment isnít looking so good to the United Nations.
In case you havenít heard, our brains are being conditioned to look upon you as the burden you are. And itís time you see yourself that way too:
Thatís right. The UN is promoting we EUTHANIZE our aging parents. If that ad didnít send chills up your spine, the next one will. These commercials are pointing us to Agenda 21, a global strategy to reduce the population in the years ahead. Yes, it sounds like something out of a zombie movie, but itís been going on now for several years as weíve been reporting.
Disguised as environmental stewardship, Agenda 21 is nothing more than repackaged Socialism, and many heavy-hitters with billions of dollars and a worldwide influence are behind it.
http://standupforthetruth.com/2012/11/time-to ...
Yes..... we saw the movie.... Soylent Green is made out of people.

Is there any place left to have an intelligent discussion without LUNATICS ruining it for everyone else?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#167909 Nov 13, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said, the Senate DOES NOT vote on impeachment.
Where did you get the idea that "an indictment has to go through the courts to succeed?" A grand jury votes to indict. Period. The defendant is indicted. Whether it goes to trial or what happens at trial has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INDICTMENT.
LOL

so you think the impeachment was a total success, it stated in the articles of impeachment to remove the president from office... did that happen? Did a single thing the impeachment stated succeed?

NopeÖ.. not a single thing.

A total waste of time and money

If you call that a success, then I congratulate you on the success of Mit Romneyís bid for the presidency, You should be proud and happy that it was such a resounding success.

No wonder you guys keep losing, you donít know what success or failure even is.
Stoked

Covina, CA

#167910 Nov 13, 2012
Republicans and Tea party are still running on stupid.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#167911 Nov 13, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes..... we saw the movie.... Soylent Green is made out of people.
Is there any place left to have an intelligent discussion without LUNATICS ruining it for everyone else?
Aw, Big D isn't that bad, just dopey and as stubborn as a democrat mule!
Dosage

Covina, CA

#167912 Nov 13, 2012
Bobby Jindal says to Republicans:

Dumbed-Down Conservatism Must Go,'Stop being the stupid party' and playing with your supporters lives.

We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#167913 Nov 13, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
so you think the impeachment was a total success, it stated in the articles of impeachment to remove the president from office... did that happen? Did a single thing the impeachment stated succeed?
NopeÖ.. not a single thing.
A total waste of time and money
If you call that a success, then I congratulate you on the success of Mit Romneyís bid for the presidency, You should be proud and happy that it was such a resounding success.
No wonder you guys keep losing, you donít know what success or failure even is.
I didn't vote for Romney! Ew!!!!!!!!!

"Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States."

Yes. He was impeached. He was acquitted at trial. He was not removed from office and he was not disqualified to hold another office.

How can a President be impeached if the impeachment fails?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#167915 Nov 13, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Aw, Big D isn't that bad, just dopey and as stubborn as a democrat mule!
and as successful, I have the luxury of being right, so that makes it easier.
Dozers

Covina, CA

#167916 Nov 13, 2012
Bobby Jindal says this about Republicans:

Dumbed-Down Conservatism Must Go,'Stop being the stupid party' and playing with your supporters lives.

We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#167917 Nov 13, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't vote for Romney! Ew!!!!!!!!!
"Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States."
Yes. He was impeached. He was acquitted at trial. He was not removed from office and he was not disqualified to hold another office.
How can a President be impeached if the impeachment fails?
i don't think The actual impeachment process went on as long as this conversation...

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