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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166140 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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The CEREMONY is THE issue, remember ?
No, it's not.
Anybody can have any kind of ceremony they want.
Non issue.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#166141 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Straight up, Big D, no sarcasm.
My marriage was a declaration that I intended to take my wife and raise a family, according to old tradition and custom, going back thousands of years. This new redefinition allows a mockery of that declaration. It allows anyone with a desire to call another a "wife" or a "husband" to claim that title, in spite of the timeless nature of that cherished institution. Anyone can live together, that is a common type of relationship. A marriage is not. I feel that the ceremony is cheapened by lowering the bar.
Not all marriages need to be a clone of yours mind you. I know a woman that recently got married that is not capable of having children.... would you deny her marriage to her husband as well?

They are happy and content... and yet you seem to think their marriage is less.

I am starting to think it is your beliefs that may have cheapened your marriage, not others being able to marry.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166143 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Straight up, Big D, no sarcasm.
My marriage was a declaration that I intended to take my wife and raise a family, according to old tradition and custom, going back thousands of years. This new redefinition allows a mockery of that declaration. It allows anyone with a desire to call another a "wife" or a "husband" to claim that title, in spite of the timeless nature of that cherished institution. Anyone can live together, that is a common type of relationship. A marriage is not. I feel that the ceremony is cheapened by lowering the bar.
Is your wife as hideous as you are? People tend to pair up with a partner of similar sexual market value, so you wife must be really revolting!
Damn!
And you are so selfish, why would people have to step around your feelings?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166144 Oct 31, 2012
Sorry, your wife must be really revolting!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166147 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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It reduces the sanctitity of your ceremony. It becomes something that any clowns in make-up and drag can participate in. Did it not declare something special about the relationship between you and you wife ? This redefining of marriage is about sexual gratification and financial gain.
LOL. Marriage has always been about sexual gratification and financial gain. You might try to cover up the facts with your romantic notions, but that doesn't change a thing.

DoorMat

Monrovia, CA

#166148 Oct 31, 2012
Never use your feet on the doormat too much.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166150 Oct 31, 2012
Rock Hudson, quit trying to make your bigotry seem noble with your "sanctitity of the ceremony" crap.
You don't care about weddings held by Elvis impersonators in Vegas. You just hate gay people, why not admit it?
http://the-weddingvendors.com/wp-content/uplo...
RiccardoFire

Corona, CA

#166156 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Straight up, Big D, no sarcasm.
My marriage was a declaration that I intended to take my wife and raise a family, according to old tradition and custom, going back thousands of years. This new redefinition allows a mockery of that declaration. It allows anyone with a desire to call another a "wife" or a "husband" to claim that title, in spite of the timeless nature of that cherished institution. Anyone can live together, that is a common type of relationship. A marriage is not. I feel that the ceremony is cheapened by lowering the bar.
Your marriage declaration was a sham. When the donkey you married couldn't bear you a burro, you sent her off to the glue factory where she was made into cheap taco meat and mucilage.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#166157 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
Sorry for the typo
" Perhaps it is my higher moral standards...I don't think "just anyone" should be able to enter "the club". " is how it should have read.
Can't get any lower than you and your wife.
She must be the visual equivalent of ipecac.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#166158 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Perhaps it is my higher moral standards...I don't "just anyone" should be able to enter "the club".
I do understand, but I suspect that is again just your beliefs, I am not willing to allow you to define my life and adhere to me laws based on your personal beliefs. This is America, the land of the free.

How about the billions of Hindu marriages that believe in a multitude of Gods? Do you count them in your club? They have almost none of your beliefs.

I am glad we can speak as adults here, and I am not trying to run you down. But this claim that it hurts others marriages seems out of line to me.

My marriage was not hurt, none of my children’s marriages were hurt, it didn’t lessen the joy of my most recent daughters marriage that happened after tens of thousands of legal gay marriages had taken place, if yours was, I would like to know how. This isn’t an idle point, this is what won the case to overturn this unconstitutional proposition
Big D

Modesto, CA

#166159 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Perhaps it is my higher moral standards...I don't "just anyone" should be able to enter "the club".
And I am sorry to mention this, but your moral standards are not "higher" than mine.
Rawlins W

Corona, CA

#166160 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Perhaps it is my higher moral standards...I don't "just anyone" should be able to enter "the club".
Your "club" is the Shell Station mensroom with the hole bored into the wall. No thanks. You're pretty disgusting, even for a homosexual.
OffSet

Monrovia, CA

#166162 Oct 31, 2012
West Covina, California City Council man Mike Touhey and commissioner George Ogden.

After allegations of money laundrying and kcik backs or pay to play offers have come across your doorsteps.

We'll arrange and pay for the polygraph tests, at a certified polygraph tester of your choice. Or use the polygraph tester right up the street where all our employees have been taking a pre-employment polygraph tests.

We have the paperwork all ready.

Mike DiRucci

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#166165 Oct 31, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. Marriage has always been about sexual gratification and financial gain. You might try to cover up the facts with your romantic notions, but that doesn't change a thing.
You've obviously never been married!
OffSet

Monrovia, CA

#166166 Oct 31, 2012
There is NoMoo time for two-faced republican tea baggers.

Willard Mitt Romney an Paul D. Ryan.
Rice

Corona, CA

#166168 Oct 31, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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You've obviously never been married!
Have you?

Mike DiRucci

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#166169 Oct 31, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir, I am no Christian, my religion allows for all others, but as Chongo had to start running her coqqgobbler, I will not be including my wife or marriage in this post anymore. I did enjoy the brief exchange on the subject, however. I wasn't under the impression that you were running me down, also. And congrats on the marriage of your daughters, hope they weren't too expensive and I am sure that they were every penny.
:-D
Rose_NoHo "running her coqqgobbler"!

Funny Stuff!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#166171 Oct 31, 2012
They were expensive ( 2 daughters 2 months apart ) but my wallet is finally recovering ( needed CPR there for a while )

I am not running you down, in fact I find the whole Jr High school level exchange here tiresome.

But they are happy and I approve of their husbands ( not that it was a consideration they were worried about ) but I do anyway.

Thanks
Mike DiRucci

Corona, CA

#166173 Oct 31, 2012
Fabulous Frank wrote:
I just had a queer trick-or-treater ring my doorbell (he was wearing a DickOnHisHead) I slammed the door in his face.
Hey turd. That was me.
Waved over

Monrovia, CA

#166175 Oct 31, 2012
GLENDORA - The City Council will consider approving the appointment of a new finance director today.

Josh Betta, who has been the finance director for South Pasadena for the last seven years, has been selected for the position. He spent 12 years working in Monterey Park when Glendora City Manager Chris Jeffers was the top executive there.

Betta said that the chance to work with Jeffers again motivated his decision to leave South Pasadena.

"My respect for Chris Jeffers, and my enthusiasm for working with him again are major factors in wanting to take the job," he said.

Betta's tenure at South Pasadena drew the ire of city staff during a brief period in spring 2006. They claimed Betta created a "hostile work environment."

The complaint alleged that Betta had made staff uncomfortable during a heated argument he had with another staff member.

South Pasadena Mayor Michael Caccioti said a city investigation revealed no problems.

"Nothing serious ever happened," said Caccioti. "Betta has been an excellent finance director."

The complaint was aired by a union representative at a meeting where Betta had a $10,000 raise approved by the city. The timing, said Betta, was not coincidental.

"The raise came at a time when the unions hadn't seen a pay increase for three years," said Betta. "It made me a target."

Betta described the incident as him "yelling at an employee behind closed doors."

He dismissed the idea that he had created a hostile work environment.

Yolanda Vasquez, a South Pasadena city employee and union leader, seemed to mostly remember the union's displeasure about his raise.

"Our main conflict with the city was that the kept saying they didn't have any funds," Vasquez said, "then they gave this huge raise to Betta."

She did recall that several staff members had complained about an "outburst" from Betta.

However, Jim Luttrell, a retired city union representative, said the complaints were minimized.

"Betta's a tyrant," said Luttrell. "Half the city employees were terrified of him ... I'd see people come out of his office crying."

Luttrell said he had pushed local union members to make a complaint to state agencies.

Jeffers said he had heard about the complaints, but based on a background check and recommendations from supervisors and co-workers in South Pasadena, he thought Betta was the best candidate for the job.

Glendora Mayor Ken Herman said he had not heard about the incident, but that any potential problems with Betta would be discussed at today's meeting.

"The negatives will be discussed fully," said Herman. "I don't want to buy anyone else's problems."

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