Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

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I have a feeling you don't know what the meaning of the word "most" is. What percentage of the population is gay?
The Bill Clinton strategy!

TOO Funny.

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Why are fundies such racists? Don't you believe Jesus thought enough of black people to die for us?
Why are you a fundiephobe?

What about the children?

Why are you so stupid?

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Perhaps you missed my point. I was saying that the only arguments that anyone has been able to come up with are based on religion. Without using false translations of the Bible, the anti-SSM crowd looses any semblance of validity..
You exclude the argument of State Rights, as well as the right of the people to regulate their society.

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Liam R wrote:
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No, it does NOT change voting from a right to a privilege. It merely indicates that prior to that time, women were categorically DENIED their right to vote, for no valid reason beyond the mere fact that they were of a different gender than the Founding Fathers. Hey, the Founding Fathers were good. Considering that they had to invent all of this from scratch, they were incredibly good. But they still suffered from the prejudidices of their time.
No, it most certainly shows that it is a privilege. Doesn't matter how you try to twist it.
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You know, for a split second there, it began to look like you were catching on ....
I'm not in a habit of "catching on" to dysfunctional, bigoted, narrow-minded, self-contradicting mentalities.

What you are proposing is either a bubble of cluelessness or the muting of gay people trying to gain rights vocally.

No matter which of the two is what your point resembles, there's no way you'll ever see me "catch on" to it.

(By the way, quite frankly, if you're afraid about homosexual talk infecting minors...walk a day in my shoes. Public school students, at least in my neck of the woods, are the most flaming homophobes you'll ever meet. "Gay" is a synonym for "Dumb" or "Dull" at our schools. I deal with closed-minded people like you every goddamn day.)

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Unlike the Founding Fathers, we now have science that shows that a creator is not necessary for our existence...
No, the Big Bang theory and evolution do not, in and of themselves, "prove" that there is no creator (science can not do that!), but they work quite well to explain existence without invoking supernatural actions.
You miss the point. While the founders most certainly felt there was a "creator" in the fashion of a supreme being, the fact that science has lead away from that does not change the purpose and signifigance of the statement.

Creator does not have to be relegated to a "religion" in the context of this argument, it simply holds to the premise that we all have "right's" which are inherant in us simply by birth, they are not given nor can the be taken and the only purpose of government is to protect them.

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<quoted text>Says the guy who thinks the Constitution doesn't Enumerate Rights.
The guy who, in his latest escalation of insanity, claims that the Right to vote doesn't exist...
Never mind the TEXT of the 19th Amendment to the CONSTITUTION....
It's hard to fathom someone SO stupid being SUCH an an arrogant asshole, thinking they are smart, but here you are.
Aren't you tired of having your a$$ handed to you yet?
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Why are fundies such racists? Don't you believe Jesus thought enough of black people to die for us?
Rose_NoHo.

"Racist"? What do you mean by "racist"? I have never heard of any "fundies" (as normalphobes pejoratively call them) contend that the Homosexuals and the lesbians are any better than Africans.

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So the "creator" just popped of thin air.
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We don't have a creator. The SCOTUS can determine law, but not reality.
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I'm making fun of your making an issue of the use of the word "quote" WRT to something John Adams said, or was it something he wrote, or something....
Were you toilet trained at gun point?
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/Toilet_Trained-A...
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LOL. If you only knew...
You really aren't very bright are you? Do you need instruction on how to sign your welfare check?

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Nice critique, but the fact remains that you have focused on nothing except that facile view that you wish us to focus on, thus ignoring the more complete description that I have previously stated. 2 men or 2 women cannot possibly substitute for the complete upbringing provided by a balanced and natural biological set of parents. These children would be denied the access to one or the other parent, and the result is that these children will be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with them. They will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model. Same-sex “marriage” ignores a child’s best interests. Period.
Yours is a tired and fatuous argument, given that what children learn from loving parents is universal - love, patience, selflessness, joy, persistence, limits, loyalty, honesty, compassion, empathy, generosity, consistency, and hope. Teaching these things is a loving parent's job, and a loving set of parents does this job, regardless of their genders. Why don't you know this?

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You miss the point. While the founders most certainly felt there was a "creator" in the fashion of a supreme being, the fact that science has lead away from that does not change the purpose and signifigance of the statement.
Creator does not have to be relegated to a "religion" in the context of this argument, it simply holds to the premise that we all have "right's" which are inherant in us simply by birth, they are not given nor can the be taken and the only purpose of government is to protect them.
If they are endowed, or 'given', akpilot, they do not need our flimsy mortal protection - we simply have them forever and always. Since they are impossible to lose, by your reckoning, it logically follows that Government is here to recognize and facilitate them, not 'protect' them, and therein lies a fallacy of today's politics. Inalienable endowed rights, cannot disappear - they can only fail to be recognized by one's government.
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I thought that you were catching on to a clue, not at all bringing up your LBGT frineds with all those qualities that you listed. Their bubble of cluelessness, etc., hasn't yet been muted, else you'd not be here now. Walk your own shoes. Your teen angst leaves me unmoved.
It's not teen angst, it's logic.

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<quoted text>If they are endowed, or 'given', akpilot, they do not need our flimsy mortal protection - we simply have them forever and always. Since they are impossible to lose, by your reckoning, it logically follows that Government is here to recognize and facilitate them, not 'protect' them, and therein lies a fallacy of today's politics. Inalienable endowed rights, cannot disappear - they can only fail to be recognized by one's government.
Oy.
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Sounds an awful lot like whining, to me.
To you.

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To you.
And me.
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Or Mike.
Mike probably thinks it's "TOO funny!"
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Don't whine to me. I don't care.
You don't care.

Which explains why you've spent so much time degrading people on this website with dozens upon dozens of condescending, hypocritical, bigoted, closed-minded, hateful comments.

Yep. You don't care.

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You don't care.
Which explains why you've spent so much time degrading people on this website with dozens upon dozens of condescending, hypocritical, bigoted, closed-minded, hateful comments.
Yep. You don't care.
Relax Edgar. Never let em see you sweat.

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Mike probably thinks it's "TOO funny!"
Well... yeah.

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Relax Edgar. Never let em see you sweat.
You're right.

HEY GUYS DON'T LOOK I'M SWEATING

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