Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“No Allah: know peace”

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LBer wrote:
Hay all (what up Rose!),
Sorry, been away on business; too busy.
Found this article in the Military Press; note how our liberal left media continued the Vietnam war:
General Vo Nguyen Giap, the North Vietnamese general, the architect of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975, is cited as crediting Presidential aspirant John Kerry and his VVAW with helping them achieve victory. In Giap's 1985 memoir about the war, he wrote that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S." Giap was quoted as saying, "What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But, we were elated to notice the media were definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. Yes, we were ready to surrender. You had won!"
Old news. Any body who looks at the facts knows that we had won the military campaign. In fact, when we called them to the table to negotiate our withdrawal, they were expecting us to open up with a demand to surrender.

But it is purely partisan politics to try and place the blame on Kerry and the VAW. The American press was broadcasting the war right into people's livingrooms every night on the news. People were tired of the images of death and destruction. The VAW was only one group among many who were protesting the war.

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I take it then that you and yours are okay with her being filmed with burros and you fellating black men since you are both consenting adults.
Right?
What an incredibly stupid question, on numerous points, but most specifically: I have no interest in fellating men of ANY race, she has no interest in beastiality,(and the burro CANNOT consent in any event), and neither of us is interested in creating film for public consumption.

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akpilot wrote:
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We all have a creator Rose, do you think we just pop out of thin air?
Unlike the Founding Fathers, we now have science that shows that a creator is not necessary for our existence...

No, the Big Bang theory and evolution do not, in and of themselves, "prove" that there is no creator (science can not do that!), but they work quite well to explain existence without invoking supernatural actions.
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Take a closer look at your utility bills, and any other public service bill or fees (tax), these are state wide. Although these extra costs are above and beyond your actual utility usage, they off set the cost to finance meds to the Aids/HIV patients for one example, there are others however. Most company health insurance will not pay for a pre-existing illness such as and AIDS/HIV patient. The state very carefully blends these hidden costs in you monthly bills, clever huh ??? It's obvious that SSM is taking advantage of this thinking that by marring they can get double coverage. It sounds complicating because it is most people don't look at the real reasont for tax/fee increases they just pay them.
What are you talking about, heterosexuals get HIV the same as homosexuals, last time I looked more HIV victims were heterosexual in the world than homosexual.

You need to become a tad more educated before you post garbage.

I am in favor of research into the cures of a lot of diseases including HIV, but then I am actually a compassionate person, not a member of the current day Spanish Inquisition
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Liam R wrote:
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Unlike the Founding Fathers, we now have science that shows that a creator is not necessary for our existence...
No, the Big Bang theory and evolution do not, in and of themselves, "prove" that there is no creator (science can not do that!), but they work quite well to explain existence without invoking supernatural actions.
Interesting to note, the one of the greatest early advocates of the "Big Bang" was a religious individual and saw it as a positive for creationism.

Georges Lemaître

However that is not what they are told to say from the pulput today so it has sort of gone by the wayside.

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What are you talking about, heterosexuals get HIV the same as homosexuals, last time I looked more HIV victims were heterosexual in the world than homosexual.
You need to become a tad more educated before you post garbage.
I am in favor of research into the cures of a lot of diseases including HIV, but then I am actually a compassionate person, not a member of the current day Spanish Inquisition
Yeah, yeah we know you're very compassionate and freedom loving etc. And we're real proud of you for it Fruitcake.

But there is no current day Spanish Inquisition son. What are you high or something?
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We know you don't like facts.
Says the guy who thinks the Constitution doesn't Enumerate Rights.
The guy who, in his latest escalation of insanity, claims that the Right to vote doesn't exist...
Never mind the TEXT of the 19th Amendment to the CONSTITUTION....

It's hard to fathom someone SO stupid being SUCH an an arrogant asshole, thinking they are smart, but here you are.

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Yes Jefferson, Madison and the other writers knew who they were writing for, and worded it in such a way as to apply to any religion, or none at all.
Master stroke that was.
It is easy to think of them as geniuses, but to be honest all of history and all the nations of Europe had already shown beyond all doubt that a nation founded upon a region, any religion was doomed to failure and strife.
Their choice to not found this nation upon any religion, was a no-brainer from their standpoint.
Exactly. The Founding Fathers knew enough history to remember the more than a century and a half of religious wars, where Christian killed Christian over trivial matters of doctrine.

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Yep, hidden medical costs in our utility bills.......are you paranoid? or just simply an azz Bruno?
He's paranoid. Everyone knows medical costs are 'hidden' in sales taxes - on things like tobacco, alcohol, and firearms.

Look it up.

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What an incredibly stupid question, on numerous points, but most specifically: I have no interest in fellating men of ANY race, she has no interest in beastiality,(and the burro CANNOT consent in any event), and neither of us is interested in creating film for public consumption.
Bravo!!

You bring a level of intelligence to these threads which I find exceptionally refreshing.

Thank-you, and good morning.

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Yeah, yeah we know you're very compassionate and freedom loving etc. And we're real proud of you for it Fruitcake.
But there is no current day Spanish Inquisition son. What are you high or something?
Sure there is, there are politicians out there that want to get into our daughters panties and tell them what they are allowed to do and not allowed to do with their own reproductive system.

There are those out there ( some in this forum ) that would like sexual behavior and orientation governed by REALLY BIG government that gets right down into the very fabric of our lives.

There are those out there that want a specific religion mandated by the government., with freedoms for some religions, but not others.( notice that people that want religion in schools are not particularly in favor of Hinduism or Islam in our schools, let alone FSM )

They are still here, it is just that they have a much harder road to travel as every American patriot is opposed to them.

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<quoted text>Bravo!!
You bring a level of intelligence to these threads which I find exceptionally refreshing.
Thank-you, and good morning.
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You just told me you were here for fun. Now you're looking for intelligence? I think you just say what you think the gentlemen want to hear you little floozy.
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and another ruling against DOMA.....3 judge panel ruled in NY.

one step closer to equality, my friends.

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Like I said, I have what I need. I'm real proud that you do too!
I certainly don't need or want your gnarly ass or your wife's either. Why would you ask?
P.S. Maybe I am gay. So what? You some kind of homophobe or something?
TOO FUNNY!
Too funny, thats not what you said.....


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Nope. Don't need to. Got what I need. You.

Sorry Buttercup, learn to troll, you suck at it.

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You just told me you were here for fun. Now you're looking for intelligence? I think you just say what you think the gentlemen want to hear you little floozy.
She is looking for intelligent conversation, you don't fill her minimums requirements. Move on , perhaps you will find what you are looking for in the WV threads.
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and another ruling against DOMA.....3 judge panel ruled in NY.
one step closer to equality, my friends.
Yes I noticed that yesterday

It is as I have been telling my gay friends for a while now, it will just take some time.

Right is accelerating however, it took decades for the emancipation of slaves, and decades for the equality of women ( still in progress by some accounts ) this is coming very quickly.

It may seem like it is taking a long time... but it is not, this is really fast from a historical perspective.

As old prejudices fall away from our maturing society, as there is less reliance on belief and more assurance in science, the right thing to do is becoming more obvious, and easier to champion.

We are finally starting to grow up, belief in Santa Claus ( chuckle ) is waning, and it is about time.

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Sure there is, there are politicians out there that want to get into our daughters panties and tell them what they are allowed to do and not allowed to do with their own reproductive system.
There are those out there ( some in this forum ) that would like sexual behavior and orientation governed by REALLY BIG government that gets right down into the very fabric of our lives.
There are those out there that want a specific religion mandated by the government., with freedoms for some religions, but not others.( notice that people that want religion in schools are not particularly in favor of Hinduism or Islam in our schools, let alone FSM )
They are still here, it is just that they have a much harder road to travel as every American patriot is opposed to them.
Too long to read. Some Spanish guys are trying to get in your daughter's panties?
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Ever since this ruling was announced sales of Hawthorne wipes have increased 1500% YAY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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You just told me you were here for fun. Now you're looking for intelligence? I think you just say what you think the gentlemen want to hear you little floozy.
Gee, I don't know about you Mikey, but I find intelligent conversation one of the most fun things to do, regardless of the venue. This particular venue is burdened with a plethora of un-fun conversation, to which you regularly contribute, as you have done here.

(Strictly MY opinion, of course.)

Step up to the plate, why don'tcha?
Got skilz?

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<quoted text>She is looking for intelligent conversation, you don't fill her minimums requirements. Move on , perhaps you will find what you are looking for in the WV threads.
You speak for her? She your wife? You found her in "WV"?

"WV". West Virginia? You're bigoted against West Virginians? Booker T Washington? Pearl Buck? Don Knotts? Chuck Yeager?

You have to stop this matchmaking you big dopey yenta. As I've told you over and over I'm very happy with my partner and not shopping.

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