Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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50 Generals were fired,
Wow, you got any evidence to BACK up your pathetic claims doc?

Women don't serve in combat NOT because they can't handle it, but because our top male MILITARY officials CAN'T handle the fact that women might die and that somehow a woman's life is more valuable than a man's because of her unique ability to give birth!!!

Women have served in combat roles even if they have had to do so under an assumed male name!!!

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Wow, you got any evidence to BACK up your pathetic claims doc?
Women don't serve in combat NOT because they can't handle it, but because our top male MILITARY officials CAN'T handle the fact that women might die and that somehow a woman's life is more valuable than a man's because of her unique ability to give birth!!!
Women have served in combat roles even if they have had to do so under an assumed male name!!!
Women do serve in combat roles and women have died in combat.

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Cal In AZ wrote:
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Women do serve in combat roles and women have died in combat.
That was my point......and have been doing so for hundreds of years!!!

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It would not be the same thing as separating based on skin color- not even close. I am so sick of that nonsense! It would be exactly the same thing as segregation based on sex.
And as far as your nonsense about growing up, I guess the same should be said if we decided to place males and females together, huh?
You are out of touch with reality, you are so blinded by your "cause" you can't even apply critical thinking.
Hmmm... a lot of the more "utopian" science fiction makes the assumption that in the future, people actually WILL have grown up enough that unisex barracks will be the norm. What stands in the way is things like Christianity and other patriarchal throwbacks to primitive times when women were a man's property, and rape was just a way to "prove" that you were the better man by spoiling another man's property.

I do NOT want to imply that ALL xians feel this way, nor that it is in any way actually taught as part of any particular church, but this is EXACTLY what is behind the whole concept of a woman "asking for it" if she got raped.

This CAN be changed. But the only way for that to happen is for everybody to teach their young children right from the beginning that ALL people deserve respect, regardless of skin tone, orientation, gender, religion, nationality, income, etc, etc, etc. People need to learn that they can feel good about themselves without having to put someone else down.

Life is not a zero sum game, if we cooperate, we can ALL win.
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Please keep it alive and well.
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No they're not facts they're ad hominen. Sure sign of a loser.
First off, you are using "ad hominem" incorrectly.(You spelled it incorrectly, too, but that's not the issue.)

"Ad hominem" refers to the attacking of the character of a person in response to an argument, rather than providing a counter argument. Since you've never given any arguments, just idiotic statements and insults, any person who in turn insults you is not engaging in "ad hominem".

Now, when I posed the theorem that "You are an idiot", rather than refuting that allegation, you in turn engaged in an "ad hominem" attack on me. e.g. Implied that I was a "loser" for having engaged in an "ad hominem" attack on you, which, of course, I never did, since it can only be an "ad hominem" attack if you proposed an argument.

Furthermore, this "as hominem" attack of yours was actually secondary to the primary content of your response: that you countered with a "red herring" (this is your favorite tactic). Rather than refuting the argument of your idiocy, you decided to respond with a tangent on "ad hominem". As much as you'd like to take the discussion away from you being an idiot, you will find that others will not fall for this tactic and just simply ignore you when you do it.

So, in response, I would like to reiterate that you, indeed, are an idiot. A contention further buoyed by your inability to understand what "ad hominem" is, in spite of repeatedly using it as some sort of battle cry; that you've never provided any intelligible argument on any topic ever; and that you, at the most basic level, are even unable to provide evidence to the contrary refuting your idiocy.

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Yes, IDF is portrayed as a 'model' of gender integration. Here are some statistics;
33% are females, mainly because they get more exemptions.
51% are officers. Besides being extremely lopsided, it also seems to be moving toward a 'Queen Bee' culture...
3% are assigned to combat roles.
Question; What kind of officer does a person make who has never had combat experience?
Ah, I am a monster mutation, that is true. I'm sure they could use my simple common sense.
My assessment of your post? Gay twirl idiocy that puts armies and nations at risk
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gee we can tell youve really done your homework on this one.
everybody knows that the IDF are about the BEST trained, best equiped, most KICKASS army in the world....
what planet have you been living on??
i think they came to the realization that to have a manadatory service policy??? they were going to have to deal with allowing gays to serve openly!!
BTW: according to the israelis ?? their Nation IS always at risk!!
Always do my homework. That's why you continually look like a moronic idiot AND a blondie.

Please tell my how your sales talk has anything to do with my points? Not one single rebuttal!

You then conclude with a clearly confused answer. Heads up idiot, you refer to a outside risk, I clearly was referring to a inside risk. Once again, you are unable to address the issue.

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LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
8.5 years of gay marriage in the bay state??
the kids are still playing on the sidewalk....
the neighbors dog is still rooting through the trash...
the T is still running...
Bain is still in business, exporting jobs to china.
the BSO is still performing....
the massachussets national guard is still in business.
the trains keep running, the planes keep taking off.
adults keep getting educated in universities...
people still get cured in hospitals...
pupils still attend public schools?
the trash keeps getting picked up??
and the sky is still hanging there above us.
I cant see how letting gays marry would EVER change any of this.
And hundreds of gay couples are in blissful denial that they are 'married'.

And for 8.5 years on Mother's day,
hundreds of kids have sat looking at
one dad and one pretend dad
with broken hearts wondering about their mother
and with painful clarity knowing the difference between marriage and gay unions.

The joke was on them, and it's not funny.

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First off, you are using "ad hominem" incorrectly.(You spelled it incorrectly, too, but that's not the issue.)
"Ad hominem" refers to the attacking of the character of a person in response to an argument, rather than providing a counter argument. Since you've never given any arguments, just idiotic statements and insults, any person who in turn insults you is not engaging in "ad hominem".
Now, when I posed the theorem that "You are an idiot", rather than refuting that allegation, you in turn engaged in an "ad hominem" attack on me. e.g. Implied that I was a "loser" for having engaged in an "ad hominem" attack on you, which, of course, I never did, since it can only be an "ad hominem" attack if you proposed an argument.
Furthermore, this "as hominem" attack of yours was actually secondary to the primary content of your response: that you countered with a "red herring" (this is your favorite tactic). Rather than refuting the argument of your idiocy, you decided to respond with a tangent on "ad hominem". As much as you'd like to take the discussion away from you being an idiot, you will find that others will not fall for this tactic and just simply ignore you when you do it.
So, in response, I would like to reiterate that you, indeed, are an idiot. A contention further buoyed by your inability to understand what "ad hominem" is, in spite of repeatedly using it as some sort of battle cry; that you've never provided any intelligible argument on any topic ever; and that you, at the most basic level, are even unable to provide evidence to the contrary refuting your idiocy.


Does anyone read this long winded nonsense?

Why you mad?

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No...You've proven yourself an idiot. It's a fact. I checked with Encyclopaedia Brittanica.
More brilliance from Frank!

You really need to pump it up. Read some of Mona Lott's posts. Use something funny like "Quacked-out fundie". "Idiot" is so boring.

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LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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pleae excuse me liammmm...
I didnt mean to get this thread off topic.
you and I obviously disagree on lots of issues from the middle east to immigration.
thank you for your time and being civil......
it is such a rare commodity here.
That is why I get such a laugh when someone tries to call me a liberal. I'm all over the spectrum, since I look at things like: the facts, what the Constitution actually says (AND what it means), what is best for the country, etc.

You are right, this is off topic. Of course, I have seen some topics drift so far off topic that they end up circling back around to being ON topic!
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Does anyone read this long winded nonsense?
Why you mad?
Again, no counter argument, just two "red herrings".

Ergo: You are an idiot.

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No...You've proven yourself an idiot. It's a fact. I checked with Encyclopaedia Brittanica.
Guess I don't get any of your imaginary "points" today huh?

Too Funny!
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Can't we just wait until the intermission?
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More brilliance from Frank!
You really need to pump it up. Read some of Mona Lott's posts. Use something funny like "Quacked-out fundie". "Idiot" is so boring.
Well, since you've never provided any opinion that you are a "Quacked-out fundie", wouldn't that be an inappropriate assesment?

If you wish, we could call you a "tiresome bore". At best, as entertaining as a Jennifer Aniston movie.

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The plaque on Obama's desk;

'The buck stops anywhere but here!'

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No...You've proven yourself an idiot. It's a fact. I checked with Encyclopaedia Brittanica.
Oh yeah? Well you're a dope! I didn't even have to check.

TOO Funny!

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<quoted text>So, you hunt for chickens at school yards and are here sending codes. Clever chicken hawk. No, it turns out that gays really want sodomy bestiality for gays in the military. USC.925.Art.125.
By the way, there have been massive problems with DADT, Obama is just a gay liar, more generals were fored under Obama than under the past 4 presidents combined. General McKinan fired, Commander of NATO forces in AFghan, Gen. McKhystal, Gen. Walpin, Gen. Petreaus, Gen. Fuller, etc. all told over 50 Generals have been fired by Obama.
Obama did not get a consenssu for DADT being no problem in the military, he removed all the generals who told him differently. Instead of "friendly fire" will are going to be reporting "gay fire" as well.
And how was this any different from when Eisenhower ordered the desegregation of blacks and whites in the military? I doubt that those generals were any happier about mixing the races, and plenty of them could have come up with just as many "reasons" that it was wrong and even that it was against God's will. Bigotry doesn't change.

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If you wish, we could call you a "tiresome bore".
All you have to do is stop taking the bait tough guy. But you can't.

Your emotions betray you, you don't really think I am a tiresome bore.

SO Funny!

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<quoted text>yeah, you are gay so you are a liar. If I were gay then I would lie and say that your posts was the silliest post I have seen. Since I am straight, your post is just one of many silly posts.
No one also has ever clarified how many murders, rapes, thefts and child molestations in New York or London effect people in California. Yet, most of us opposed that too.
Let's give it a try? Has the sky fallen in any state or country in the last 7000 years when murders, rapes, hefts and child molestations happen? I mean if fear of falling skies are the issue, then only sodomy, homosexuality, incest, child molestation, bestiality and necrophilia, sexual sins of Leviticus 18, should be of concern, because only Sodom and Gomorrah has had a rain of fire fall on them for these sins.
NEXT attempt at illogical fallacies.
Um, you might what to try actually READING the Bible before you attempt to claim it says something...

Exekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

And pay attention: the word translated as "abomination" is the Hebrew word <tow'evah> which is always used to refer to acts that are an abomination precisely BECAUSE they are part of the worship of foreign Gods.

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