Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#163323 Oct 15, 2012
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#163324 Oct 15, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
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If the wording wasn't a problem, how could it possibly be misinterpreted?
It happens all the time.. We call them activist judges.
Connie Clear

Vallejo, CA

#163325 Oct 15, 2012
Big Dig wrote:
God made adam and eve, not adam and steve!!

Were Adam and Eve red, white, yellow, black or brown? Did Adam and Eve have brown eyes, hazel eyes, green eyes, blue eyes? Did Adam and Eve have red hair, brown hair, black hair, blonde hair?

Obviously there is much more diversity in humanity than Adam and Eve exhibited.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#163326 Oct 15, 2012
akpilot wrote:
It happens all the time.. We call them activist judges.
Too bad a bunch of lawyers weren't competent enough to compose an airtight legal document, eh?

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#163327 Oct 15, 2012
Same sex marriage is gender segregation. I believe in the perfect diversity of marriage one man and one woman; perfect affirmative action. I oppose gender segregation marriage because diversity is the nature of marriage.

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#163328 Oct 15, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
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Too bad a bunch of lawyers weren't competent enough to compose an airtight legal document, eh?
I know it's difficult for you, but try an apply some critical thinking skills. For once in your life don't expect to be TOLD what to think.

Read my post which analyzed the Congressional debate on the drafting of the 14th Amendment, an analysis by those whom actually drafted the Amendment. Listen to what they said, then you tell me how the court got it "right" when they created "anchor babies?"

I know this might hurt, so you might want to have some aspirin handy.

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#163329 Oct 15, 2012
Judge Walker found against the California taxpayer and voter, for the state and new regulation of marriage.

Same sex marriage is bad for homosexuals. Every gay was born of male/female union.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#163330 Oct 15, 2012
akpilot wrote:
It happens all the time.. We call them activist judges.
Especially when you take into account that the 14th amendment was an answer to the 'activist judges'(ie "judges that I disagree with")Dred Scott Decision. Legal interpretation they didn't agree with was the reason the Amendment exists, and they STILL left the door wide open?

Your quoting of the people involved, whom you happen to agree with is nice, but not the whole picture. Tell us about the people on the other side of the debates you mention.

Either the lawyers you quoted were wholly incompetent at composing legal documents, or the issue wasn't as one sided as you would have us believe. Which is it?
Connie Clear

Vallejo, CA

#163333 Oct 16, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
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Especially when you take into account that the 14th amendment was an answer to the 'activist judges'(ie "judges that I disagree with")Dred Scott Decision. Legal interpretation they didn't agree with was the reason the Amendment exists, and they STILL left the door wide open?
Your quoting of the people involved, whom you happen to agree with is nice, but not the whole picture. Tell us about the people on the other side of the debates you mention.
Either the lawyers you quoted were wholly incompetent at composing legal documents, or the issue wasn't as one sided as you would have us believe. Which is it?

Is your Google button broken?

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#163334 Oct 16, 2012
Connie Clear wrote:
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Were Adam and Eve red, white, yellow, black or brown? Did Adam and Eve have brown eyes, hazel eyes, green eyes, blue eyes? Did Adam and Eve have red hair, brown hair, black hair, blonde hair?
Obviously there is much more diversity in humanity than Adam and Eve exhibited.
That might be true except for the fact that Adam and Eve never existed! Just a figment of some old goat herder 2,000 years ago! But I must say there was a lot of incest going on in that fictitious garden between all those kids and brothers and sisters! I guess the sky fairy condoned incest I guess? LOL

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#163335 Oct 16, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
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Especially when you take into account that the 14th amendment was an answer to the 'activist judges'(ie "judges that I disagree with")Dred Scott Decision. Legal interpretation they didn't agree with was the reason the Amendment exists, and they STILL left the door wide open?
Your quoting of the people involved, whom you happen to agree with is nice, but not the whole picture. Tell us about the people on the other side of the debates you mention.
Either the lawyers you quoted were wholly incompetent at composing legal documents, or the issue wasn't as one sided as you would have us believe. Which is it?
Feel free to quote some people whom feel otherwise and think the 14th Amendment was to create "Anchor Babies"- we will wait.

I could save you the time, because I have read the entire Congressional Debate, and a vast majority of the State ratification debates and simply tell you it isn't there. But I am sure that you already knew that since I am sure the first thing you did was hit google to find something to support your nonsense. Since you couldn't find it, you continue to dance around the topic attempting to sound educated on the subject.

BTW, while Dred Scott was the catalyst, the 14th Amendment was designed to solidify the Civil Rights Act of 1866 into the Constitution and prevent another Congress by simple majority from changing it.

But really, in all your ranting and nonsense, you still haven't present a valid argument for "anchor babies".

Don't worry, we don't expect you to.

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#163336 Oct 16, 2012
Tim Shields wrote:
I know, same sex marriage is like giving a drug addict crack, to fix his problem. It's what he thinks he wants, but it is not legal and it is destructive.
Good point.

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#163337 Oct 16, 2012
Tim Shields wrote:
<quoted text>If you can't make your own argument, it might be because you donothave one. You gays might find it interesting, that one of your Prop 8 lawyers, David Boies, is working with the GOP's and Ryan so they can get elected and abolish all same sex marriages. Irony of irony.
Hey Doc......you really expect ANYONE who supports the right to marry for Same-Sex Couples to believe this crap?

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#163338 Oct 16, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Judge Walker found against the California taxpayer and voter, for the state and new regulation of marriage.
Same sex marriage is bad for homosexuals. Every gay was born of male/female union.
Judge Walker DIDN'T do anything to the California taxpayer or the voter.......he found a proposition UNCONSTITUTIONAL based on the evidences presented at trial!!!

If California had a Constitutional review process for propositions before being placed on the ballot......most would probably not get challenged.......therefore ensuring that the voter's vote wouldn't get toss!!!

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#163339 Oct 16, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Good point.
Figures!!!

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#163340 Oct 16, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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i amm not denying anything KI, I just said I hadnt seen it explode as a hot news story, like hetro rape(in the miltary) has in past years. Im sure I will read a credible story...someday.
I dont think that DADT is coming back, or any other type of segregation...sorry it was just a bad, discriminatory policy.
as is any ban on gay marriage.
there is literally no arguement for NOT letting gays marry that makes a bit of sense. all of them are based on religion, which is constituionally prohibited.
Because lapdog media doesn't cover something, it is not a problem?

Evolution is 'religion' based"?

You are not just a girl, you are blonde.
Michael Clark Duncan

Toronto, Canada

#163341 Oct 16, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Because lapdog media doesn't cover something, it is not a problem?
Evolution is 'religion' based"?
You are not just a girl, you are blonde.
And what Barracks do we put you in freak? I guess we would have to invent a whole new category for you! The DADT repeal has worked out just fine and with a minimum of problems and that is the reality of the situation! And it's worked out in Israel where they integrated their armed forces 9 years ago and other NATO country's just fine also! What you are is a chicken hawk who has never served and doesn't have a clue to what you're babbling about! Sit down and STFU chicken hawk!

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#163342 Oct 16, 2012
Michael Clark Duncan wrote:
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And what Barracks do we put you in freak? I guess we would have to invent a whole new category for you! The DADT repeal has worked out just fine and with a minimum of problems and that is the reality of the situation! And it's worked out in Israel where they integrated their armed forces 9 years ago and other NATO country's just fine also! What you are is a chicken hawk who has never served and doesn't have a clue to what you're babbling about! Sit down and STFU chicken hawk!
Yes, IDF is portrayed as a 'model' of gender integration. Here are some statistics;

33% are females, mainly because they get more exemptions.

51% are officers. Besides being extremely lopsided, it also seems to be moving toward a 'Queen Bee' culture...

3% are assigned to combat roles.

Question; What kind of officer does a person make who has never had combat experience?

Ah, I am a monster mutation, that is true. I'm sure they could use my simple common sense.

My assessment of your post? Gay twirl idiocy that puts armies and nations at risk.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163343 Oct 16, 2012
Tim Shields wrote:
<quoted text>I know, same sex marriage is like giving a drug addict crack, to fix his problem. It's what he thinks he wants, but it is not legal and it is destructive.
that was about the silliest thing ive read here so far!

people just want their rights??? how is it destructive??

to you??

no one on earth has been able to clerify how some gay couple getting married on the THIS side of town actually effects someone's straight marriage on THE OTHER side of town.

lets give it a try?? has the sky fallen in any of those states that legalized it?? it has been legal for 8.5 years in Massachussetts.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163344 Oct 16, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Yes, IDF is portrayed as a 'model' of gender integration. Here are some statistics;
33% are females, mainly because they get more exemptions.
51% are officers. Besides being extremely lopsided, it also seems to be moving toward a 'Queen Bee' culture...
3% are assigned to combat roles.
Question; What kind of officer does a person make who has never had combat experience?
Ah, I am a monster mutation, that is true. I'm sure they could use my simple common sense.
My assessment of your post? Gay twirl idiocy that puts armies and nations at risk.
gee we can tell youve really done your homework on this one.

everybody knows that the IDF are about the BEST trained, best equiped, most KICKASS army in the world....

what planet have you been living on??

i think they came to the realization that to have a manadatory service policy??? they were going to have to deal with allowing gays to serve openly!!

BTW: according to the israelis ?? their Nation IS always at risk!!

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